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Neymar, Henry, Messi would have been even better because Henry was a better player than Suarez. I don't really see it as a realistic discussion. Henry could do things Suarez couldn't it's that simple.
No he wasn't better than Suarez.
What are the exact things Henry could do that Suarez couldn't?
And by the way, Henry went to Barcelona and played with Messi. Not even remotely close to Suarez.
Oh my god just watch them ffs. Henry was lightning quick over any distance, he could cross and pass with midfield quality, he could shoot from distance with curled, driven, laced finishes, his runs over 30 or 40 yards were as destructive as his runs over 5 or 10. Suarez was strong, great close control, oustanding penalty box finisher, quick over 10 yards but not on the same planet athletically. Henry could take on a set defender with cover in a 1 v 1 either with pace, strength, skill, or by cutting him out with a run or pass. Suarez didn't have all those options and that's a fact. This is such a fucking ridiculous discussion.
Listen, I don't like shitting on Henry. One of my favourite players of all time. In fact, I think those are the 2 best forwards I've watched. Ahead of R9, Lewandowski, Romario. Both had an unbelievable combination of goalscoring and creating for their teammates. Elite goalscorers and creators. No other forwards other than Messi and Cristiano, did it on this scale. But you're being biased.
>he could cross and pass with midfield quality, he could shoot from distance with curled, driven, laced finishes, his runs over 30 or 40 yards were as destructive as his runs over 5 or 10.
Suarez did all those things too. Only thing he didn't have was the raw speed, he had much more endurance though. And his off ball movement was better.
Let's agree to disagree. Either way, I think those are the best we've seen.
Lukaku for Inter. Ziyech and Giroud for Milan. Werner for Juventus. Tammy for Roma.
Don’t forget Tomori
Å bit worried Arsenal and Tottenham are gonna surpass Chelsea this season. They both might have good transfers and they have stability trust in the couches.
On the otherside Tottenham are Tottenham and Arsenal are Arsenal.
Not too worried about United yet. They got a good manager, but they need some years to remove the rot in their club and fix their broken system within.
City just got stronger, Haaland gonna become a legend for them and win them their first CL. and Liverpool are still a level beyond the other clubs
25 editions came and went, we have our Silver "Anniversary" today. Have some stats and facts from all previous editions:
**Daily Quiz Champions** (so far). Editions they won are in brackets, **bold** means they achieved the perfect score, their flair is in brackets:
1. u/ankitm1 (Real Madrid) - 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (5, 6, 10, 12, 13, 19, 20, **25**)
2. u/SupSiri (Chelsea FC) - 🏆🏆🏆 (3, 11, 15)
3. u/MotherweII (Scotland) - 🏆🏆🏆 (8, 9, 17)
4. u/el_rompe_toyotas-19 (Real Madrid) - 🏆🏆 (**22**, **24**)
5. u/CanLlorenteCarForMe (Atletico Madrid) - 🏆🏆 (14, 18)
6. u/paper_zoe (England) - 🏆🏆 (16, 21)
7. u/HaroldFinch2022 (Corinthians Paulista) - 🏆 (**23**)
8. u/transtifa (Tottenham Hotspur) - 🏆 (1); u/YourPupilsDilated (Nigeria) - 🏆 (2); u/AnIntoxicatedRodent (no flair) - 🏆 (4); u/xaviernoodlebrain (Tottenham Hotspur) - 🏆 (7)
Champions were sorted by number of titles/number of max scores/who won the title first
- 11 people overall qualified for a tiebreaker. 2 of them (u/SupSiri and u/el_brahmo) didn't have chance to participate, as in those 2 days I didn't have time to organise one. Those were editions 7 and 18 respectively. 1 of them (u/StarlordPunk) didn't participate at all. 3 of them (u/SaBe_18, u/_stone_age, u/StrangeContribution4) never won a title. 1 of them (u/el_rompe_toyotas-19) won a tiebreaker but still lost a quiz because someone later beat their score.
- u/ankitm1 has the most tiebreaker apperances in history with **5**. He won 2 of them.
- Tottenham and Real Madrid are the only two teams to have multiple Champions
- 4 editions featured a winner with 100% score. It was last 4 editions, 22-25.
- Spain won 12 editions so far England won 7, Scotland won 3, and Nigeria and Brazil won 1 each. One edition was won by someone with no flair.
Glad to take part in this quiz everyday.
Listening to a podcast that's shooting up to be one of the top in the world, and a regular on it mentioned how he spends a lot of time on football and UK politics subreddits trying to make jokes and arguing and shit. He's a left wing Liverpool fan and a bit of a windup so I've got my fuckin' eye on you all now.
Name of podcast?
Have a Word. It was Alfie Brown who said it, a comedian who's a regular guest and was guest hosting this week's episode which is only out on patreon for now.
[Nearly had him...](https://preview.redd.it/8moe9r6jbn791.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=83126076649ec7de93a019f27f03efe38a89c127)
So few months ago, Gabriel Jesus played as a winger and delivered , everyone started saying how he should always play as a winger and that striker isn't his best position.
Then suddenly he wasn't playing a lot or on the wing.
Now Arsenal buys him as a striker for Lacazette's departure.
Doesn't really make sense.
he specifically can't play as a 9 in the city team
Jesus started up top in all the important matches down the last stretch for City tbf
He got injured at the beginning of 2022 and it took him a bit to regain form, I rate him way more as a winger than I do as a striker. I wish we would’ve been able to hold onto him but he got offered more playing time and more money so I can’t blame him for leaving
He is a good player. Personally think it will work out with him as a striker but even if it doesn't and they have to buy someone later on, having Jesus who is capable of playing both positions at a relatively high level is useful too
If the Mourinho tradition is alive,Roma are going to crash and burn this season.
Second season is generally when he wins the league.
Not this season but 23/24. His second season is the best one usually.
Unless it's Tottenham.
Ferran Torres and Angeliño to City
Coutinho to Barcelona.
Are you banned from r/barca? Haven't seen you in a while there.
Nah the sub's gotten a bit boring. I've also become a bit busy irl lately.
FDJ to Barca
ndombele to spurs, dembele to barca
FDJ to Man Utd
how good is de ligt on the ball? his stats look abysmal but then again he plays allegriball so it's kinda understandable
He has been solid and incredible. Probably the best player in that juve team in the past year.
There's not shot he's our best player. I like De Ligt but he's extremely reckless and gives away pens like candy.
is he good on the ball tho? sorry for asking again but your wording make it seem like you're talking about his defensive qualities
If San Marino played India or other asian countries with similar ranks in a 10 game series would they win a few games?
San Marino no, but some other minnows like Faroe Islands and Liechtenstein could probaby get results in some of the games.
India are 100 ranks ahead of san marino
Ranks outside the top 100 do not really mean much when the difference in quality between confederations is immense,San Marino might have a better chance of getting a win if the were not in Europe
Yeah but Indian squad has all players playing professionally and has a football league of its own, while San Marino are composed of part timers. Not sure how San Marino would have a chance here?
So uhh... are we boycotting the US world cup too?
Are the US, Mexico and Canada using slave labour to build their stadiums for the upcoming world cup?
I mean as an Iraqi, I have way more reasons to boycott the US compared to Qatar. Qatar could spend all their money on human rights violations and still not reach 10% of America's collective destructive legacy
Maybe we wait until they start throwing gay ppl off the top of buildings, imprisoning people for sex before marriage and give only 1/2 the women in the country the right to work.
America has its problems but it is nowhere close to being compared to Qatar.
So where's the cut off point?
I doubt r/soccer is the place to discuss cutoff points for boycotts and virtue signalling ... but England just had a Euros, Russia just had a World Cup, Germany has a Euros coming up. South Africa had a World Cup.
I don't expect people on this sub to be rational about America but let's at least have some consistency if we are going to ask to boycott something - otherwise it's just virtue signalling.
Russia is pretty self-evident and England were complicit in the imperialist misadventure that was Iraq but what are your arguments for boycotting the other two? Both Germany and South Africa have gone to great lengths to atone for their dark pasts in recent years. I don't think either can currently be compared to Qatar or the USA on the atrocities scale.
I've not said anyone should boycott anything.
Your comment implied that you thought a boycott of the Qatar world cup would be justified, whereas one of the US wouldn't because the US isn't as bad. So I'm asking you where you draw the line.
No virtue signalling, so you can put that particular buzzword back in the deck.
Are you from the US?
I went to uni in the US and spent 5 years in Chicago. I live in London.
And im not saying you are doing that, I'm saying those who call for a boycott of the US one are doing exactly that. And yes I think Qatar should be boycotted because of 'how' they came to building this event - with slave labour.
I think people are right to question why there is such a clamour to boycott the Qatar world cup when similar standards haven't been applied to other host nations in recent history.
Yes, the conditions in the build up to the Qatar world cup have been disgusting but I'm interested to know why nobody seemed to want to boycott before and why they want to shut down discussion of it happening again for future events in other countries simply because "Qatar is worse."
What's the cut-off point for demanding higher standards from host nations?
The whole thing is fucked and has been for ages but, for me, you either roll with it or you don't. You don't just pick and choose moments to feel outraged because of some arbitrary line you've drawn in the sand.
Just take your bulletproof vest and you'll be fine. And don't talk to people, you'll misgender them. I can refer to people as them or..? Whatever...
I do think that Qatar is many grades worse than the US
Isn't America mostly fine except a few states?The abortion ban as per my understanding is just in a few places,It still looks like shit situation but its nothing like Qatar!
Why? We arent like Qatar.
Honestly I would if I had a platform to say it. Its getting harder and harder to think why we should stay in "good relations" with such a backwards country.
Is an entire country considered "backward" when only 20% of the states are backward?It is nothing like Qatar!Reddit has some weird obsession with making America look worse than it is ,Is UK backwards because they voted for Brexit?
Big difference between voting to leave an economic block and voting to take rights away from women.
You're there complaining about false equivalences when you just made the most egregious one this thread.
If Pep was managing in 99 for example he wouldn't win shit. It works both ways, it's wrong to judge football players, managers etc like that. Bring Pele now and he would be shit. Put Ronaldo or Messi to play in the seventies and they wouldn't do shit. It's stupid to think this way.
This will only lead to downs votes but here we go.....
Pep has only been a great manager because hes been at the biggest or the best teams in the league. The one time he wasn't at the best team in the league he finished 3rd. Then brought a whole new team.
He would struggle at any second rate club.
Torn between wanting Lukaku to crash and burn, and needing him to do well so Inter can buy him back for a big fee.
You'll get 20 million in installments for the next 10 years.
He'll do well, Inter buys him, Chelsea gets interested (because this time it's really different, pinky promise), buys him, he buckles under the pressure, Inter gets interested.
He will do well because they know how to use him. Your club just did a Barto special
By todays standards what is the absolute benchmark for a striker to score X amount of goals to be a success.
Going into next PL season, Nunez, Jesus, Haaland, Ronaldo, Kane will be leading the line for thier respective clubs.
What amount of goals would constitute to a successful season.
Also not talking in the strikers other aspects like assist or hold up play or defensive work. Pure goals
10-15 to not be labelled a flop, 20+ for a success ig
At least 15
Surely there must be something within the Bayern Board and Lewandowski that we dont know of , how can Lewa turn against them all of a sudden
Agree, it is really weird. But maybe his problem is with the coaching staff. Just baseless speculation on my part, though. No idea how his relationship with Nagelsmann is portrayed on the media
Few things happened: Firstly the Haaland situation. Then the contract length issue, we were offering him an extension till 2024 and he probably wanted till 2025/26. And the Ballon D'Or as well, he didn't look that happy since then and didn't celebrate much with team mates. Plus he's unhappy with Nagelsmann's tactics post winter break.
Haven't watched Bayern. What changed in terms of tactics post winter break?
davies offered flexibility in terms of formations on and off the ball, we were attacking with 5/6 players but also defending with 5/6 because davies could drop deep quickly
i think, davies being out meant we weren't creating enough chances, so we played with more attackers, additionally, i think because we dont really have a true six, our defenders were left very very exposed and were a lot of times scapegoated
>Firstly the Haaland situation.
Bayern tried to sign Haaland and he got mad
ETH is too busy twerking for De Jong trying to get the band back together from Ajax, that all of the top transfer options are being signed else where. I can’t blame Ronaldo for wanting to leave. The let many players leave on free transfers and isn’t getting anybody to replace them. Man United officially has no pull anymore
I can blame Ronaldo.
And we thought the club are trying to change. Imagine with so many holes, they still have FDJ as the only priority right now because the manager wants him.
It's no wonder that FDJ doesnt want to leave and ruin his career and end up with no trophies when it all fees like there is no proper structure at the club.
It’s a joke at this point. Even if they manage to get De Jong to come to United, there’s still many things the club needs to improve. No transfers after 1-2 weeks bruv
England fans need to embrace being called shit by other NT’s, means as soon as you beat someone you can horde it over them for as long as you like.
They do that already, I still see people bring up that time we lost 5:1 to them and that was a World Cup qualifying match from 2001 ffs
They wrote a song about it
We know we're shit. We also know we shouldn't be which makes it frustrating.
What's your take on your rival that would be a hot take in your club's sub?
Jordan Pickford is a good keeper and deserves to be englands number 1
Great question btw
We've just barely finished above arsenal the last two seasons despite having two world class players in Kane and Son. Either the rest of our team isn't as good as we hype them to be or arsenal's team is very decent
Kulusevski is kinda cute
TAA is generational, Allison is thrice the keeper De Gea is, Matip is better than all of our CBs.
A right back can’t be generational
Can he be double triple generational though?
You’d put him as one of the top 3-5 of his era? I don’t think most would
Sure, maybe a simple world class would've been better but this generation has had tactics evolved to a degree where FBs are more influential than they've ever been and Trent has already left a huge mark.
Marcelo and Dani Alves were attacking, playmaking fullbacks when Trent was playing U9s
Yes they were. Doesn't mean Trent isn't? Maybe I should've toned down with the word generational and go with one of the best of the generation.
None of them are hot takes in general tbf.
In our sub it is but truthfully it isn't.
How much of a short term memory do people have? Phillips was extremely good when Bielsa was at Leeds, and he is phenomenal as a 6. A few bad games for England don't change that
As soon as a British player goes to City they become overrated or shit. See Grealish, see Stones, see Walker, see Sterling, etc..
It's not a City thing; people have been underrating Phillips since before the summer.
Those guys I think have got their due praise when they are in form
as of current rumours and transfers, what are your PL/Serie A predictions? not the entire league table necessarily, maybe events you think will happen in next season
Inter with Lukaku walk the league
Who stops them? Definutely not Juve and If Lukaku was there this year all the draws Inter had turn into wins and they win the league by 8-10 points
PL: Man City will win the league (unfortunately)
Man United won't get a top 4 finish
Nottingham Forest will be relegated
Liverpool will as usual fight for the league all the way through
Arsenal will get champions League spot(god save us)
Brentford will barely escape relegation
Leeds will probably be relegated, or they could get a midtable finish depending on their new transfers
Leeds got fucking mugged with that Phillips transfer. 42m with some unknown youth player on the last year of his contract going for 5m the other way, horrendous deal.
And at the same time they want £65m for Raphinha which doesn’t quite make sense. Unless there’s a reason there should be that big of a difference in price between the two?
From what I’ve read Gyabi is a great prospect though, and I don’t know if you remember but Leeds’ squad depth is horrid.
What happened to Ghana? They've won only one game this year, against Madagascar. They couldn't even beat Comoros at the AFCON. I don't think half the world's population even know Comoros exists.
They did beat Nigeria to qualify for the worldcup back in March of this year
They drew 0-0 and 1-1 and won on away goals. Not really a win tbf.
They just got their diaspora reinforcements for the World Cup we'll see a much better side later this year
Even with all our drama, nothing will beat the Koeman Peppa Pig tweet about a mole 💀
How did I miss this lol
Peppa Puig the mole
I seriously question the Raphina fit at Arsenal him and Saka are both RWs
Obviously we need depth but both of these guys will want start at RW as much as possible
Did you question City having Mahrez, Foden, Sterling, Jesus, Grealish and Bernardo all as wing options?
Let’s face it - in this day and age, you need quality subs in every position to compete at the highest level. How people still don’t realize that is beyond me.
I see our fans say that all the time as well and it'd getting a bit tiring.
City don't need improvements anywhere else, so they get depth. We need improvements of the starting 11, so splashing on depth is not ideal.
We are not City tho... We dont have a top 4 level LB, DM, RB backup or a starting LCM. Those should all be addressed before buying a top class player in a position where one of our best players plays, especially the fucking LCM (its our equivalent to Uniteds RW)
I feel the same way, Saka is much better as RW too and so is Raphinha
Honestly if was an arsenal fan, i would be worried about how confident they are in keeping Saka.
If they get CL he might sign da ting.
If they dont, he might fuck off
One of them will shift to the left. I would be very surprised if you paid 60+ million for a player who will be rotated regularly. Raphinha should be a regular starter for the most part for you guys.
Martinelli will be the starter at LW
I don’t think so. I rate his talent too, but I simply don’t see Arsenal paying so much for Raphinha and not starting him most times. And Saka is their talisman and undroppable. For me, Raph and Saka will start most of the league games, while the likes of Martinelli, ESR and Nketiah will play more of the cup and EL games.
We’re building City level depth mate, good options in every position
If starting Raphina by shifting Saka to LW is worth it now, I highly doubt it’ll be worth it by the end of the season. Martinelli is set for a true breakout season in my view
I agree Saka will have to play LW but I've never seen him score a goal with his right foot lol
Goal against Chelsea when he “intentionally” chipped Mendy
How the fuck do every club have so much money right now but Utd
No idea what's going on at your club mate. Murtough longing out talks won't help you pre-season is just around the corner.
Meh De Jong was going to be on holiday till July 8 anyways
Utd don't have much money with revenue decreasing, we have to pay 45m debt and 22m dividends to glazers from profits every year.
De Jong might be your only signing at this rate but I guess we'll see
yanks and brits posting ranking averages/stats/graphs showing how they got the “””””””group of death””””” is getting a bit boring
It’s a group of death without a doubt, anyone who doesn’t see that clearly has a bias against one of the nations in it. Only better one is Group E.
it’s not a real group of death, just a mid off
A group of death is a group with at least three remarkably strong teams, textbook example is England/Italy/Uruguay in 2014, all sides who would be extremely disappointed at anything less than quarter finals, yet one of them was guaranteed to be eliminated in group stage.
England is one of the weakest pot 1 teams currently although they still should finish first without much trouble, wales just got its second ever world cup and first since the 50’s, Iran have never managed to reach round of 16, USA at anything more than r16 would be a huge shock.
It’s not a group of death without a doubt, anyone who sees one either has no idea what the term group of death means or is unbelievably deluded.
It’s a very even group, while England has a very accessible spot, US, Iran and Wales are all surprisingly similar sides in terms of strength
Its because all the teams are avarage
best kind of group of death
Why pl fans start crying when serie a clubs dont value their player as much as them
Because Serie A clubs are cheap fucks and then expect Prem clubs to pay a fortune for their players.
Who has this happened with really?
Was always hilarious when chelsea sent bakayoko to Milan and Napoli, then their supporters were surprised when the clubs never bought him for 30/40m
Chelsea and Arsenal fans mostly, they start fuming when a Serie A club offer them loan+option to buy or they dont offer what they want for someone they want to offload
Chelsea really offered 40 + Timo for De Ligt
Now imagine if juve offered 40 + morata for reece james
Reece James clearly has a higher value than de Ligt though
fiorentina can duck right off with their torriera offer though
Wonder how many people who have submitted ratings and reviews on imdb, actually watched Pogba's documentary., Pogmentary or whatever the hell it is!
I do know one thing though, IMDB is notorious for reviews from people who haven't even bothered to watch it before writing a review (be it a good or bad one).
IMDB rating system is notoriously awful, with superfans giving 10s and haters 1s before they watched the movie. They should just scrap it all together.
In this case, even those who didn't watch it will be spot on with their bad reviews
Ronaldo should take the pay cut and join a top side which would compete for UCL.
Obviously him at Bayern would work. Bayern in need (not necessarily though) of another good UCL campaign, think Ronaldo addition would help.
But ofc, Ronaldo and money have been always a great duo. Hard to break them!
PSG for the football fantasy combination with Messi.
Most potential UCL winning teams wouldn't take him simply because it's not a bright idea to build the team around a 37 yr old who has limitations in the modern game for such money and starting place assurances. His hope was City last season after Mendes offered him to City and City would've got him because it would've been a statement branding signing.
Real Madrid with Ronaldo 4 UCLs, Real Madrid after Ronaldo left only 1 UCL. Real Madrid should bring the king back
We rejected him last year. Now Benzema is in the form of his life and Cristiano is another year older, no way we go for him
I don't see him starting at Bayern even if he went for free. This is why they signed Mane who can run up & down for 90 minutes as a 9 or a winger. You cannot play for Bayern if you can't press. In fact, of all the top clubs, Bayern would be the last on my list to sign him.
In case you want to know where he is, Ronaldinho is in Indonesia right now. He's contracted by Rans Nusantara FC and he's going to play in a mini tournament.
If Pep can turn Phillips into a good player he’s clearly the best manager of all time.
Marsch already turned him into one
Twas but a joke 😉
Pogmentary must have received a 1/10 score for it’s awful name. It seemed like a normal inside the life of an athlete documentary
Claiming that someone like Gary Neville is still greater than Trent is a bit like arguing that Aimar was still greater than Messi back in 2010.
Messi was already a ballon d’or winner by 2010, a comparison like that is more suited to like 2008/07
It's really not the same thing at all. You're severely underrating how good he was at his peak and the career he had. There is absolutely no doubt in mind that Trent will eventually get there, but if Trent retired today then he just wouldn't be a 'greater' player than Neville.
Gone are the good old day of Goldilocks Griezmann. Man is truly finished. [bruh](https://www.instagram.com/p/CfMc0S5KL8H/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=)
My guy just wants to take after his idol David Beckham haha
Probs watched the new LightYear film
Chelsey’all fans are in denial if they think they can land De Ligt for less than 80M €
No, after years of saying Timo Werner was worthless they think they can get him for €40m + Werner.
I saw a post above that made me laugh. The person said 'that'd be like if we offered €40m+Morata for Reece James.
If Arteta doesn’t move ESR to RCM this season, Klopp should try and poach him. Would be world class in his system
It’s not like I want it to happen, but Arteta is not showing enough progress on this
Because he’s not a midfielder? this isn’t fifa. you can’t just train your wingers to become cms in a coupe of months
He’s always been a midfielder. He was a midfielder in the academy, broke into the first team as a midfielder, and even when he was playing left wing last season he still largely played in the same spaces a midfielder (LCM) would play
Because ESR is not a CM. He may turn out to be with some serious work but he is definitely not ready to be relied on in that position for us, let alone Klopp’s team.
“He’s not ready” because Arteta hasn’t actually given him the time to develop there. You actually have no real basis to say he’s not ready. Very little actually required for him to work on. Same way Martinelli ‘needed to be sent on loan’ after game week 2
Klopp would have him playing there at a world class level before the end of this season
Cristiano to Bayern, Morata to United
Bayern are smart so no
Ronaldo doesn’t want to take the pay cut he would need to
Bayern still wont sign him. They arent run like PSG or Barca