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MilanDNAx7CL

Okay what a does Mbappe think of all this


doktorcatzen

how we did during covid should be a study. with clubs having losses, we were making a new stadium.


TimTkt

That’s the main point that most people ignore. Once our new stadium is fully operational (next year I think), our revenue which is already top of the world will increase even more.


rim261

"Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle stadium!" -Darth Pérez


ShatterDomeSSZero

Barca fans have forever labeled us the Evil Empire... Well, I think with what's coming, Madrid will truly transform into the Galactic Empire. Perez is on the warpath.


Shadow_Adjutant

*Galactico Empire


LomaSpeedling

This fanfic practically writes itself.


tristanhermann

That is perfect!


TimTkt

Damn you are maybe the first Barca flair that I upvote 😂 we are the Evil Empire, hopefully the good guys oil rebels are gonna save us all !


rim261

Nah the oil clubs are worse. They're like the new star wars movies


sexmarshines

Just wait for the crazy numbers once Perez gets super league zipping along smoothly


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TimTkt

The new ground is retractable so they can use the stadium every day for other events (concerts, other sports, etc) without damaging the grass. And they added shops, cinema, directly in the stadium gallery. They already signed a contract which will bring them 360M€ now and the estimated revenue is 150-200m more each year


gumarik

Also so much of the huge wages gone but still winning.


UniversitySignal3117

You see everyone just talks about Madrid being lucky, gods really did us a favour by choosing those years to cause havoc when we were building our stadium


mufffff

I may be biased, but how are Spurs a bigger brand than Chelsea and Arsenal? >**Tottenham Hotspur is now solidly within top 10 clubs globally** >Tottenham Hotspur FC (brand value up 21% to €873 million) achieved an all-time high in brand valuation and were ranking as the 8th most valuable brand globally, above fellow London clubs Chelsea FC (brand value up 11% to €855 million) and Arsenal FC (brand value up 18% to €793 million). Tottenham finished above both Arsenal and Manchester United this season, securing their spot in the 2022/23 Champions’ League group stages, which has become increasingly important to all stakeholders for the top clubs – players, sponsors, owners and broadcasters are all strongly influenced by presence in Europe’s top international competition. > https://brandirectory.com/rankings/football/table


legentofreddit

They're only ahead on the financial rankings. Which has got to be because of their new stadium. They're below Arsenal and Chelsea in terms of 'brand' which seems right.


Sagnik_07

South Korea, Son's a contender for top celebrity there


Nrd4Life

Spurs are weirdly big in the Midwest USA. They might be second only to Man U Crystal Palace aren’t far behind also TBH - the only soccer bar in my college town was a Palace bar and you see tons of Zaha jerseys in the Minnesota/Wisconsin/Illinois area


tryin2immigrate

Popularity in Asia due to Son


vvrr00

This is way overstated imo. Son is only popular in South Korea imo


ldc262626

>Popularity in Asia due to Son LOL 1 korean = popular in all of Asia...


teamed209

City 2nd? Writer slip on oil before he wrote this?


Walaii

Im interested how they arrived at city in second place in value but 6th in brand strenght. Does it take into accound the whole CFG or what? PSG at 7th in value but not even in top 10 in strenght is also pretty funny.


teamed209

I mean I probably need to read it properly but what's the difference between brand strength and value? Odd list


curtastrophe666

As I understand it. Strength is essentially the weight of the brand's recognition, while value is the measure of ability to convert that recognition into something tangible.


HungryDavid

And frankly speaking - that sounds possible. We know how much abilities City currently have at the level of finance, recruitment, club's structures, their squad's perspective especially with Haaland. But on the other hand, they are still relatively less recognized than other historic clubs, even with worse period than City in the last few years.


teamed209

Makes some sense. Although the article notes value is strength plus revenue, city not second on either of those, including their own strength ranking


Walaii

No idea.


Shadow_Adjutant

I imagine value would be entirely financial. History doesn't affect value in that regard. If you went to sell United and City tomorrow, no matter which way you look at it, you're paying more to aquire City than you are United. I think in that aspect it makes total sense that City is 2nd in value but lower in brand recognition, because *that* is where you get the acknowledgement of history.


Chicken_of_Funk

Value is the price the club would be expected to fetch at sale including assets (like players and stadium) if it were sold tomorrow. Brand strength is the expected longevity and continued success of the brand. The problem the English clubs have here is that unlike in Spain or Scotland (a really good example, as the brand strength of Rangers and Celtic is such that one can be re-admitted straight to the league based on brand strength alone) is lack of truly dominant clubs. It's very easy for a 'big' English club to not get in the CL for a few seasons straight, which really damages this.


Corteaux81

City have done a lot of “smart” sportswashing. Among other things, as goofy as it sounds, they’re the “too club” in Ted Lasso, constantly mentioned. Not Liverpool, not United, not Chelsea.... just City. At the same time, my Hammers are set up to be next season villians. FML


teamed209

Yeah I mean I expect them on the list but it says club value is based on revenue and club strength. They are not second on the brand strength list and not second on revenue so how do they get to second on this list?


AnnieIWillKnow

Why would you be next season's villains?


Corteaux81

Cause Rebecca’s former husband bought West Ham and employed Nate as the manager.


Beige_

Reading through the article, revenue affects brand value a lot. City managed to significantly increase their commercial revenue during covid whilst many top clubs had more modest growth or even lost revenue.


_cumblast_

Biggest club in the world by a landslide really. Would be weird if they weren't.


eddsters

Lol never seen a flair like yours mr cum blast


Scorchster1138

Man’s going all in for the jinx


eddsters

Hes a liverpool fan ... so he's trolling us lol


Scorchster1138

I know, he’s probably doing it to jinx you lot haha


eddsters

Ahh ok gotcha now 😅


alien_degenerate

Should I take my upvote back?


bloppingzef

Jinx Protector 🧁. Now his attack has been nullified. We’ve got a army of jinx protectors to counter act jinx”s.


Competitive-Ad2006

Wouldn't say by a landslide. Haven't followed these rankings since 2010 - but back then they regularly swapped positions with united. Barca has also probably gained in popularity since then


keesmaat

It also has city at 2nd. They have a lot of money but the strength of the brand is not as big as the teams like Barca and Man Utd


teamed209

Immediately invalidates this list to be honest, city probably not in the top 5.


Mr_XemiReR

City is the 2nd most valuable, but 6th strongest


teamed209

Don't know what that means


Mr_XemiReR

They have 2 different categories


warriors94602

Stop inserting your opinion then. It’s ok to shut your mouth when you don’t know what you’re talking about. “List invalidated, I don’t understand what they’re talking about”.


teamed209

Its also ok to shut your mouth when you have nothing to add to the conversation. The article doesn't go into detail but notes brand value is linked to brand strength and revenue generation, of which city is not second on either so how do they become second on the list? Brand strength seems like to be a subjective bit of analysis. Maybe there methodology is broken down somewhere but I can't find it and therefor city being second invalidates the list somewhat unless someone, perhaps more intelligent than you can dig into this further.


HerakIinos

They swapped with United and Barca in terms of revenue and popularity. But Historically, Madrid is far ahead. And history should also be counted to determine the "biggest" club.


styles__P

> Barca has also probably gained in popularity since then When Messi was here we where the top franchise before our finances well…


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Comunicado_Oficial

Rejected by ManU/SAF not Cristiano lmao


Round-Ad5063

Don’t think you know what a landslide is but yeah definitely most popular by a big margin


RevoltOfTheBeavers

It's like a geological blast of cum, so I think he's quite well aware


josh_x444

Don’t worry, Frankfurt are on our way. 💪🏻


erikbla

Nicest kits too


MeliodasRebirth

Flo is just a guy looking for profitability.


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

Real Madrid is an entirely non-profit organisation. The world your looking for is revenue, maybe? Still, the revenue doesn't mean anything if you don't use it to perpetuate success.


Comunicado_Oficial

It's a parody of what Ferran Soriano said about City's funding by UAE


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

Don't tell me I just wooshed 😔


MeliodasRebirth

Bruh.


RMmadness

Fan owned clubs don't want to be profitable


MeliodasRebirth

My brother, I was just referring to City's Ruler statement from earlier today.


RMmadness

Didn't see it


MeliodasRebirth

It's all good, no problem.


dupont2021

No surprise here. They are the epitome of good and exciting football in an otherwise, a sport where we suffer just to celebrate. Madrid brings out great football. Madrid fans don't really suffer as much as any other fans.


unrectify

> Madrid fans don't really suffer as much as any other fans. I've been following them since '89, and there has been plenty of suffering along the way. Barcelona dream team, inept presidents before Perez, financial disorder, failed Galacticos projects (overall) etc. And of course the creme de la creme of suffering: the arguably best player of all time playing for Barcelona for over a decade, destroying shit left and right with numerous titles. If you just became a Real Madrid in the last 10 years, then yeah, I can understand your sentiment about the fans not having suffered, because of the CPL titles, Ronaldo and so on. But there was a time before that where shit didn't go smooth.


Comunicado_Oficial

If you call that suffering sign me right up lmao, that's what? 11 ligas, 7 CLs and 3 copas (😭) in 33 years


Sn44444ke

The point is that "suffering" as a fan is relative, though, isn't it? Chelsea are the current CL champions yet the Abramovich sale is kind of throwing them in disarray. City just became EPL champions for the 4th time in 5 years yet they constantly fail to get the CL. Liverpool went through a period in which all they wanted was the league, and now that they are one of the top football clubs their fans dread the possibility of losing the CL a week after losing the league. This weird game of "my team's situation has been objectively worse than yours, therefore I don't understand what you have to complain about" completely ignores that the joy of being a football fan comes from celebrating success, as big or small as it is, which in turn is meaningless without the possibility of failure and the expectations each club sets throughout the course of their season and history. Everton just avoided relegation, does that mean that the loser of the CL final has nothing to be sad about? Following that logic, only the fans of the last placed team of the lowest echelon of the least popular league have a right to be upset. Which ironically, would be the friends and family of amateurs who play for sport and don't care too much about the outcome.


HanAlai

Good post I still remember the 5-0, haven't felt that bad watching a game of ours since. From my history of watching at least, that's the bottom.


celigodtko

Man. That Roy Makaay goal Still haunts me..


drbond2021

Fuck man. Don’t get me started. So excited at the start of the match. Instant deflation.


celigodtko

I never seen Roberto Carlos being that done.


DiddlyDooh

Don't disrespect CR like that


TCGod

I am a fan since 2004 and don't remember any time we suffered aside from shit dutch era.


Braquiador

As a 21 yo Madrid fan this hasn't been my experience at all. I became a Madrid around 2006 (just when I understood football's rules and started watching it), and let me tell it was pretty hellish until the 2012 league win. I was surrounded by Barca fans in my school, so being a Madrid fan was probably the worst decision I could've made football-wise. It was constant mockery, left and right. Everyone telling me how great Barca was (which hey were), how they destroyed our asses (which they did) and how they were the best team and won everything while Madrid got shit (which again, true). And anytime we accomplished something? "Yeah, whatever, Madrid is still shit". Not a pleasant time at all.


dupont2021

Ignore them. Just watch our club and be happy.


EggplantBusiness

The years between 2004 to 2014 were pretty "average" for Madrid standard. Since 2014 though it's had been incredible.


HarshangLad

Actually blessed yes.


TimTkt

Tbh I suffered like hell during the 3 second legs of UCL knockouts … Real has a gift to get their fans cardiacs


Competitive-Ad2006

>good and exciting football Let us be honest- Hasn't that been Barca over the last 15 years? I am nor a Barca fan by the way


L-Freeze

Not nearly as many people enjoy watching 800 sidespasses per match as some would have you believe. They’ve got their style well defined for sure, some people like it a lot, but it’s definitely not universally loved. Besides, they’ve not really followed it as much in recent years, it was “pass it to Messi and hope he wins you the game” for quite a while


celigodtko

Both Barca and Madrid played exciting and good football.


Competitive-Ad2006

>Both Barca and Madrid played exciting and good football. Mate let us be honest, el classicos of the last 15 years or so were famous for Barca playing exciting football and Madrid generally being rough and physical. Was actually the right thing to do and it often worked, e.g. with Pepe.


celigodtko

You dont remember us playing fantastic counters ? Barca fans loves to downplay Madrid. So stupid.


HanAlai

The Ajax goal may as well be the definition for counter attack


celigodtko

Might be biased but the best counter Attack i Ever seen.


king2pac

Dude, RM only became "physical" with Mourinho. But some people also consider direct and counterattacking football more exciting than just passing the ball around in your half. I personally haven't enjoyed barca post Xavi-Iniesta


RMmadness

No way this is credible when city is in 2n place


dumpystumpy

Surprised we’re that low on both lists.


eddsters

Same here I thought utd would be number 2.


10055682

No champions league and a crap stadium are probably big factors


10055682

You should be happy about it and want it to continue. The club needs to fail financially to make the Glazers consider selling


san771

Still can't convince mbappe to come...


coffeelad0

He's young and has a chance to try to win a CL for the biggest club in his home country, which would be a way bigger deal for them than it is for Madrid. Gets to play longer with legends, and basically was handed a golden key of influence in the clubs decisions. After all is said in done with his new contract, he can still go to Madrid in his absolute prime.


Feliz_Desdichado

Don't think Real's trying again honestly, his wages would be exorbitant, and the cost makes negotiating for him and someone else at the same time impossible, Real Madrid would be risking every transfer window that he doesn't just pull the rug from under them.


Mantis_Toboggan27

We say that now but football will probably continue to grow bigger and bigger and more expensive. I bet if Florentino wants to stay elected he’ll pay that ultimate fee for who is probably the best player in the world. It’s how you keep this brand and club the biggest in the world.


TimTkt

Not sure about your last sentence, he might have become executing officer of PSG but he can’t decide if Real will still want him after this in 3 years.


coffeelad0

I just meant there's the possibility it could happen, and at that time he could be an even better player. No guarantees, just saying Madrid fans don't have to feel like the window to get this guy is completely shut forever.


TimTkt

I think you don’t realize how Madrid fans feel about Mbappe :) you will see if you watch the next time he comes play at Bernabeu


minititof

Fans can forget fast. If in 3 years, let's say he's been the best player in the world for 2 years straight and Madrid have another chance at signing him, you would be happy as fuck (as you should) to sign him.


ShatterDomeSSZero

Wanna bet? There's been several rumblings from within the club that the way this was handled by Mbappe's inner circle pissed off Perez and the board. Significantly. Mbappe is not coming to Madrid unless he's an opponent. I'll bet you my left testicle. Haaland will likely be the main target 2-3 years from now. Assuming of course he stays healthy and that we don't sign another prodigy. 2-3 years is a long time in futbol.


HungryDavid

Frankly speaking? With Vinicius' development I would much prefer for us to sign more classical "9" after Benzema's reign - assuming we will finally have some right winger. With Mbappe, we always discussed the problem of having 3 players shifting to the left, now we can just ignore that. Haaland's release clause kicks in just after two years and that does not seem like an accidental timing, consudering Karim's age. On top of that, he will never take 50-70% wages reduction - why would he, who would do that? There was a time whwn we could have such a hope, but now we don't have such a naive doubts.


TimTkt

In 2 years we will probably try to go for Haaland (because his position will be way more interesting once Benzema is not an indisputable starter). We won’t be interested by Mbappe if Haaland joins.


coffeelad0

Exactly this. Like who would reject the potentially best player of a generation to "own them" lmao..


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Mbappe will not win Balon dor until he leaves PSG.


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king2pac

Fans were worshiping Bale at the Bernabeu years ago. Fans cheered for Mbappe months ago. If Mbappe becomes World Best in 3 years while Madrid under-performs you'll be wanting him so bad like the second coming of Christ.


coffeelad0

I actually love a good story of a hated rival player coming to a club and becoming adored. It makes for an interesting plot. Like Vegeta becoming a good guy in Dragon Ball Z lol.


BaldFrauds

when did the club tell you this? how are you so sure? did florentino advise you for the future?


TimTkt

Real Madrid is owned by socios, not by a dictator doing whatever he wants. Perez knows that he can’t do something like recruiting a player hated by fans, otherwise it would lower his popularity / risk him to not be elected again. It’s just basic logic, sorry if you don’t get it.


BaldFrauds

is that why he bought beckham and didn’t go for Ronaldinho? :( damn now it makes sense


Finch2090

Eh It’s easy to see how a team is literally willing to bend over backwards to give you more money than anyone ever in the sport would probably not hesitate to fucking kill you lmao


TheOreoLine

Interesting list to say the least.


gameguy61

common knowledge


tormarod

Wait you mean it's not PSG???


BockBud

Biggest lie is man city


Superb-Confidence-44

Another win. And we only have to wait til Saturday for the next.


WoW_Christopher

Wow what an achievement!! That's what football's all about


SonaldoNazario

I mean this would work if they weren't also massively successful domestically and in Europe. They have the brand and the footballing success to match it.


Itsthatgy

City is listed as second. Would you say the two clubs are comparable?


t1mb3r21

Is being in a CL final what football's all about?


WoW_Christopher

Not entirely no


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

What's football about? For real


WoW_Christopher

They journey, the highs and lows, the community. Go and watch your local team and you'll see the true spirit of football


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

Oh okay lol, yeah. My local club is Bristol City. It's a literal 6 minute walk for me, so when the prices aren't stupid, it's a fun time, but it's an outing, not a pilgrimage. My heart is in Madrid.


Jayer244

Mate you are talking to the only fans who thought the Super League was a good idea. They lost interest in football long ago and the only thing they want are titles.


Gobshiight

Shit, that might mean there are more than 10 teams with history


Qwerty6391063

Jelly much?


WoW_Christopher

No...


damola44

Didn’t Forbes or something name Barca first in a metric similar to this one?


pain2002

[Forbes List](https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2021/04/12/the-worlds-most-valuable-soccer-teams-barcelona-on-top-at-48-billion/?sh=5c8b80416ac5) Yep. That was for last year though when you still had Messi in the team I think.


damola44

Ahh. Makes sense. Thanks


Juventini_Are_Vermin

youll never sing that


Jayer244

So valuable and strong that their pres thinks he can just break away from the fans and turn his eye entirely onto profit through the Super League. I have no idea why Flo is still tolerated by Madrid fans. Edit: Downvoted obviously. How dare I bring up the Super League again. Madrid fans were the only ones who really wanted it anyway. They wanted to destroy football as we know it just as much as Perez.


Zhidezoe

Why wouldn't Flo be tolerated in Madrid? He did the best thing for the club, he put us as undisputed biggest football team, won 5 UCLs (could be 6 this year), brought the best players to play here, made us financially stable (we and Bayern were the only teams to have profit during Covid). He cares about Real Madrid, its not his job to make every team to be able to compete with Madrid. His job is to make Real Madrid the team no one can compete with.


Jayer244

Because he literally tried to ruin the entire sport for everyone else last year. Madrid fans are just to deluded to see that and think of no one but themselves. Most of you are trophy hunting idiots.


TimTkt

Because Flo wants one thing and one only : keep Madrid at the top of the world. The super league had flaws (the perpetual spots was clearly a huge mistake), but it’s purpose was to avoid oil money clubs to be able to sportwash all the money they don’t give a fuck, like PSG City and Chelsea have been doing for years just by bribing Uefa. Madrid fans understood that.


Jayer244

Then why were City and Chelsea founding members that would've gotten the founder bonus? Your lies are delusional just like you are. Madrid fans wanted to ruin football just as much as he wanted to. They blindly followed their overlord. You're a moron if you think Perez thought of anyone but himself in that situation. He will destroy Real. Edit: What a suprise more Super League supporters. More fucking morons that liked the idea of handing the game to billionaires. And another suprise: They're all Real Madrid fans.


LukaGodr1c

The Super League would have had strict wage cap and spending limit. So, irrespective of who the owners were, every club in it would be participating on an equal footing. Football has already been ruined since a long time now and not reining in state-backed clubs would be the final nail in the coffin for the game. When you don't have complete knowledge about a situation, you shouldn't spout nonsense and cry about how a fanbase don't know their own president.


Soren_Camus1905

I’d still say United is bigger


Umijnurotarieli

Lol


Fragrant_Debt

Nah this is an unreal Mbappe for Real Madrid tbf


notapaperhandape

MBappe.


aPurpleWallet

Enjoy it will it lasts, time is running out. Tic tac tic tac 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


HotPotatoWithCheese

Press X to doubt. It's certainly in the top 5 for brand strength but I'd argue that Man United and Liverpool are above it. I just seem to come across more foreign fans of the big PL clubs (bar City) than I do LL including RM.