It's a great/awful thing that I live in a very international town given that I will be watching the final with a lot of Italians. It's either going to be even more enjoyable or a lot lot worse
probably won't be any mad things happening just a bit of banter between each other, it's a huge luxury that I've barely ever seen fights break out here
I'm really confused about the sentiment around Rangnick that he really wasn't expected to do anything , players were at fault for everything, etc. etc. because I remember the consensus around here at the time of his hiring was that it was an extremely competent move that would stabilize the club and they could push on for top 4.
Seems like him talking shit on his own club and squad worked PR wonders for him and he won't really be remembered as the worst manager United has had in decades
>because I remember the consensus around here at the time of his hiring was that it was an extremely competent move that would stabilize the club and they could push on for top 4.
I am a broken record. Bundesliga fans did not say this about him being the manager. Interim or otherwise.
People who knew the bare minimal about him, and saw that coaching talk on Youtube made him out to be an unreal manager.
People are willing to excuse his shortcomings because (a) he had no real time to work with the squad or make it his own, and (b) the press have made it pretty clear just how bad things are behind the scenes. You can understand both, really. Who *could* have turned things around in that short a period of time?
But ultimately he was a caretaker manager who didn't improve performances or results, publicly derided his players and undermined team unity even further (somehow), and left things worse off than he found them.
totally understand that, but just seems like the majority of people much rather talk about the former and completely neglect the latter.
I guess I just don't fully buy that he didn't play a role in the behind the scenes stuff, too. it just seems very convenient for him that everything prior to his reign is left at ole's feet and everything after his appoint lays at the players feet.
Fun fact: MUFC went on a 25-unbeaten run (including 6 consecutive wins) in the league in 2016-17 and they went from 7th to... 5th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9317_Manchester_United_F.C._season#Premier_League
Having some great cocktails before my Mogwai gig. Unfortunately I can't watch the final, but I hope it will be a good game. Really surprised by how much I actually like the Conference League. I thought it was a stupid idea at first.
I've seen a few Chelsea fans saying Eriksen would be perfect for Chelsea right now. But what about Tottenham? Would he fit the current team with conte?
Not 100% sure on how much he fits our system but we need a creative midfielder regardless, so he’d be a welcome addition.
I think Eriksen should either stick with Brentford or come to us.
We’re massively linked with him, Conte liked him at Inter once Eriksen understood what Conte wanted to do, seems like an obvious move for us yes but I actually think staying at Brentford is more likely
I think he’s one of the best midfielders in the league but I think he feels very grateful to Brentford for taking a gamble on him and he also feels comfortable in that environment with a lot of Danish people around him
Tbh I don't feel like he owes Brentford anything. He's been brilliant for them as a player that'd have been way out their league under normal circumstances. Just a mutually beneficial relationship that served both parties well. If he wants to stick around because he enjoys himself there fair enough and good for him but paying back a debt of gratitude shouldn't be the deciding factor imo
I would rather most of the money in entertainment be earned by the footballers, basketball players and boxers than the faceless nameless old men in suits
The off the line thing is very new. A few keepers have come out and said if it was around when they played they 100% would of had to have so many retakes etc. David James being the most noticeable to say it.
Watched some old footage of a World Cup recently, the first ever penalty shoot out between Germany and France and English commentary are constantly complaining that both goalkeepers aren’t respecting the goal-line rule.
Actually following that rule has been a very recent development.
As for 2005, everyone knows with the squad they had Milan have no one to blame but themselves for not winning that.
What’s the command for the crossed out❌ Liverpool flair? Tbh, I’m more in the way that I don’t want Liverpool to win it than I want Real Madrid to win, so I think it’s a better representation
Edit: found it
That’s Mount on every day - it’s the minimum he brings. Mount on a good day does that whilst also running the attacking system as the lynchpin, and scoring
I swear you get off on players/managers praising Chelsea. Years of watching TV series that had psychiatrists taught me that this means you weren't praised enough as a child
[I know you're being sarcastic, but the one time that I can recall Mount tried acting like a hard-man, it was incredibly cringe](https://imgur.com/a/QbPigXL)
[Video if you have access to the USA YouTube](https://imgur.com/a/QbPigXL)
It's way too quiet with our transfer targets. De jong is the obvious one, and Timber. But beyond that it's a mix of different names all over the place, nothing concrete. When did United learn to stop leaking like a rusty pipe.
Good! I'm sick of having these drawn out transfer sagas that keeps these scummy journalist that circle the club in a job.
Hopefully we move silently and everything is done by the end of June.
I'm not sure what needs reviewing really. He can see how poor things have been. As awful as Ralf has been, he is still the best person available to say where the weaknesses are.
Kind of poetic that the weak link in defense for both Real and Liverpool lies on the right flank. Same with their wings. Their best wingers both play on the left and get to face the opponent's weak link
Let's be real: Pep was bailed out by awful VAR decisions and lucky deflected goals to win the title. You could argue that Klopp's Liverpool have been fairly the better team.
You could argue Liverpool should have had a man sent off in both games against city and title race was only so close because of that.
But over the course of a season these things even out.
No. But Ederson could save the Everton pen. That’s not a guaranteed goal either.
These hypothetical situations could have multiple different outcomes. I just gave some Liverpool favourable decisions to show City haven’t been the only team to benefit from poor decisions.
[You're a bit slow aren't you?](https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/ukwmcf/fabinho_foul_on_son_yellow_card/)
I wonder what is it about Liverpool flair that makes them the worst posters on r/soccer.
> That just isn’t a red hahaha
It's violent conduct, it's a red by the rulebook. The entire thread is full of people calling it a red, but I guess they don't know the rules either.
It isn’t violent conduct at all though. This happens all the time and I can’t recall a straight red ever for even worse than this.
You call for a red every time someone jumps in the air with their elbows out?
Wow people on Reddit thinking something is a red!? No way!! Not like they cry for a red every single game ever
The difference is that you can just scroll down a see loads of Madrid flairs happily engaged in discussion without those replies. But go find a thread where Ceferin says literally anything and you’re almost guaranteed to see a Madrid fan bringing up the Super League. Odd reply tbh.
I’m here every day, there is always at minimum 53 comments just shitting on Madrid fans. No context, no discussion worthy point, literally just ugh Madrid fans amirite vibes.
Take your comment for example, in that ceferin thread there is literally one twat talking about the super league, and while he’s probably a RM fan, he doesn’t even have a flair…
Cool. So am I. Every club gets shit on when they’re doing well. You should be used to it. But Madrid fans, and some Juve fans, are literally the only ones so embarrassingly simping for the Super League.
Yeah just the final. Apparently they were legit for a bit like selling on tickets and then just turned and ran with the money after the trust was built
|Year|Competition|Player - Club/Team|Reason|Result| --:|:--|:--|:--|:--| |1990|**World Cup**|Gustavo Dezotti - Argentina|Violent Conduct|L (0-1) vs West Germany| |1990|**World Cup**|Pedro Monzon - Argentina|Serious Foul Play|L (0-1) vs West Germany| |1998|**World Cup**|Marcel Desailly - France|2nd Yellow|W (3-0) vs Brazil| |2006|**World Cup**|Zinedine Zidane - France|Violent Conduct|L (1-1 a.e.t.) vs Italy| |2010|**World Cup**|Johnny Heitinga - Netherlands|2nd Yellow|L (0-1) vs Spain| |1984|**Euro**|Yvon Le Roux - France|2nd Yellow|W (2-0) vs Spain| |2006|**Champions League**|Jens Lehmann - Arsenal|DOGSO|L (1-2)| |2008|**Champions League**|Didier Drogba - Chelsea|Violent Conduct|L (1-1 a.e.t) vs Man Utd| |2017|**Champions League**|Juan Cuadrado - Juventus|2nd Yellow|L (1-4) vs Madrid| |2007|**UEFA Cup**|Moises Hurtado - Espanyol|2nd Yellow|L (1-3) vs Sevilla| |2004|**UEFA Cup**|Fabien Barthez - Marseille|DOGSO|L (0-2) vs Valencia| |2003|**UEFA Cup**|Bobo Balde - Celtic|2nd Yellow|L (2-3) vs Porto| |2003|**UEFA Cup**|Nuno Valente - Porto|2nd Yellow|W (3-2) vs Celtic| |2002|**UEFA Cup**|Jurgen Kohler - Dortmund|DOGSO|L (2-3) vs Feyenoord| |2001|**UEFA Cup**|Antonio Karmona - Alaves|2nd Yellow|L (4-5) vs Liverpool| |2000|**UEFA Cup**|Gheorghe Hagi - Galatasaray|Violent Conduct|W (0-0 a.e.t.) vs Arsenal| |1998|**UEFA Cup**|Matias Almeyda - Lazio|2nd Yellow|L (0-3) Inter| |1998|**UEFA Cup**|Taribo West - Inter|Violent Conduct|W (3-0) vs Lazio| |1985|**FA Cup**|Kevin Moran - Man Utd|DOGSO|W (1-0) vs Everton| |2005|**FA Cup**|Jose Reyes - Arsenal|2nd Yellow|W (0-0 a.e.t.) vs Man Utd| |2013|**FA Cup**|Pablo Zabaleta - Man City|2nd Yellow|L (0-1) vs Wigan| |2016|**FA Cup**|Chris Smalling - Man Utd|2nd Yellow|W (2-1) vs Crystal Palace| |2017|**FA Cup**|Victor Moses - Chelsea|2nd Yellow|L (1-2) vs Arsenal| |2020|**FA Cup**|Mateo Kovacic - Chelsea|2nd Yellow|L (1-2) vs Arsenal| |2013|**League Cup**|Matt Duke - Bradford City|DOGSO|L (0-5) vs Swansea| |2007|**League Cup**|Emmanuel Adebayor - Arsenal|Violent Conduct|L (1-2) vs Chelsea| |2007|**League Cup**|Kolo Toure - Arsenal|Violent Conduct|L (1-2) vs Chelsea| |2007|**League Cup**|Jon Obi Mikel - Chelsea|Violent Conduct|W (2-1) vs Arsenal| |2000|**League Cup**|Clint Hill - Tranmere|Second Yellow|L (1-2) vs Leicester| |1999|**League Cup**|Justin Edinburgh - Spurs|Violent Conduct|W (1-0) vs Leicester| |1994|**League Cup**|Andrei Kanchelskis - Man Utd|DOGSO|L (1-3) vs Aston Villa|
Most of your spending in the last few years has made no sense but here we are
This feels like a personal attack
Im well aware im broke and will stay broke so theres no need to rub it in
Didn't see flair. Villa are shit. Peace
Bologna will be sponsored by Cazoo next season. Not sure having a shirt with Cazzo is a good idea for an Italian club
Why?
Cazzo means cock in Italian. [Throwback](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysnoRO7MYlQ) to a legendary Malesani interview
Exactly what I think every time I see that sponsor lol
Does any other non-Scot want Scotland to beat Ukraine or is this gonna be like Eurovision again?!
I want Scotland to spank em
Wales are beating whoever wins it so it doesn’t matter
One Bale injury and one very, very long promotion hangover for Brennan and we're good.
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Salah doesn't seem to share that philosophy
Revenge on the menu
So Sancho ended up having a worse first season than the likes of Werner, Havertz and Pepe.
He was good at the start of the year but yeah he struggled. I'm sure he'll improve next season.
Didn’t he have 0 assists 0 goals in the first 7 games he played ?
Opposite wasn’t it? Dog shite at the start of the year, looked a bit better under Rangnick
His best spell was at the start of the year, Idk what you're talking about and that was under Ragnick.
Worse first season than Grealish but doesn’t even get half the amount of shit for it
It's actually quite weird how Sancho have disappeared from the public eye
I feel like Sancho and Grealish would fit better at the club of the other. Grealish feels more like a Man Utd player and Sancho would do bits at City
Sancho did come from the City academy after all
[Pulisic in another life](https://i.redd.it/hf9p5qg54tcz.gif)
chelsea are lucky to have lebron in the team
It's a great/awful thing that I live in a very international town given that I will be watching the final with a lot of Italians. It's either going to be even more enjoyable or a lot lot worse
I'm jealous! Gonna be fun
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Vast majority of football fans are perfectly normal people and it’s highly unlikely you’ll encounter any violence watching the game in the pub
probably won't be any mad things happening just a bit of banter between each other, it's a huge luxury that I've barely ever seen fights break out here
I'm really confused about the sentiment around Rangnick that he really wasn't expected to do anything , players were at fault for everything, etc. etc. because I remember the consensus around here at the time of his hiring was that it was an extremely competent move that would stabilize the club and they could push on for top 4. Seems like him talking shit on his own club and squad worked PR wonders for him and he won't really be remembered as the worst manager United has had in decades
>because I remember the consensus around here at the time of his hiring was that it was an extremely competent move that would stabilize the club and they could push on for top 4. I am a broken record. Bundesliga fans did not say this about him being the manager. Interim or otherwise. People who knew the bare minimal about him, and saw that coaching talk on Youtube made him out to be an unreal manager.
oh for sure - I also thought at the start of his appointment that the praise was absurdly high and largely uninformed.
People are willing to excuse his shortcomings because (a) he had no real time to work with the squad or make it his own, and (b) the press have made it pretty clear just how bad things are behind the scenes. You can understand both, really. Who *could* have turned things around in that short a period of time? But ultimately he was a caretaker manager who didn't improve performances or results, publicly derided his players and undermined team unity even further (somehow), and left things worse off than he found them.
totally understand that, but just seems like the majority of people much rather talk about the former and completely neglect the latter. I guess I just don't fully buy that he didn't play a role in the behind the scenes stuff, too. it just seems very convenient for him that everything prior to his reign is left at ole's feet and everything after his appoint lays at the players feet.
Fun fact: MUFC went on a 25-unbeaten run (including 6 consecutive wins) in the league in 2016-17 and they went from 7th to... 5th. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9317_Manchester_United_F.C._season#Premier_League
You can go unbeaten and get relegated with 38 points, after all Two draws is worse than a loss
Having some great cocktails before my Mogwai gig. Unfortunately I can't watch the final, but I hope it will be a good game. Really surprised by how much I actually like the Conference League. I thought it was a stupid idea at first.
Perez would say he offered the same as us for Mbappé this sub would still be in a river of tears and denial
Mbappesos is in charge
It's been 5 days, move on...
Nobody will move on with it so prominently in the news cycle
Let's be real, there's a 99% chance this is wrong
Okay 👍
Matip has the same amount of PL goals scored as Sancho this season
Same as Ben Mee too
Matt Doherty only has 2 less goal contributions than Cancelo in the league this season in 21 less games
Kulusevski has more assists than Sancho's total goal contributions after coming in January and not starting for the first few games
Gabriel scored 2 more goals than Sancho… Gabriel has more goals than our strikers…
I mean did you see that filthy turn for his goal, looks like a proper striker to me
Chilwell played like 6 games this season and has the same amount too
Chalobah too, scary hours
I've seen a few Chelsea fans saying Eriksen would be perfect for Chelsea right now. But what about Tottenham? Would he fit the current team with conte?
I doubt he'd go to Chelsea
Yeah, Eriksen knows how loved he is by Spurs fans, doesn’t seem the sort to do something like that - especially when he’ll have other suitors
Didn’t they boo him when he returned to Stamford Bridge with Brentford?
No?
I thought I heard somebody mention that but that must have been a misunderstanding
Not 100% sure on how much he fits our system but we need a creative midfielder regardless, so he’d be a welcome addition. I think Eriksen should either stick with Brentford or come to us.
We’re massively linked with him, Conte liked him at Inter once Eriksen understood what Conte wanted to do, seems like an obvious move for us yes but I actually think staying at Brentford is more likely
I actually don’t think he will stay at Brentford think he has shown he’s still capable of performing at a higher level personally
I think he’s one of the best midfielders in the league but I think he feels very grateful to Brentford for taking a gamble on him and he also feels comfortable in that environment with a lot of Danish people around him
Tbh I don't feel like he owes Brentford anything. He's been brilliant for them as a player that'd have been way out their league under normal circumstances. Just a mutually beneficial relationship that served both parties well. If he wants to stick around because he enjoys himself there fair enough and good for him but paying back a debt of gratitude shouldn't be the deciding factor imo
I would rather most of the money in entertainment be earned by the footballers, basketball players and boxers than the faceless nameless old men in suits
Tbf at least for football that's the case given the wage to revenue ratios at almost all clubs exceeding the 50% mark by a lot
[What in the world...](https://twitter.com/Cantona_Collars/status/1529362335340675072?s=20&t=pm182XblqxEaCcN3G43__A)
The off the line thing is very new. A few keepers have come out and said if it was around when they played they 100% would of had to have so many retakes etc. David James being the most noticeable to say it.
Pass the pod!
If you know you know..
Watched some old footage of a World Cup recently, the first ever penalty shoot out between Germany and France and English commentary are constantly complaining that both goalkeepers aren’t respecting the goal-line rule. Actually following that rule has been a very recent development. As for 2005, everyone knows with the squad they had Milan have no one to blame but themselves for not winning that.
lol
Lmao. Looks like the goal line rule wasn't really enforced back then? Still, for Pirlo and Kaka's penalty Dudek stepped to far front.
Milan were robbed
Shouldn’t have shit themselves imo
Surely you’d prefer that they did?
Everyone favoured Liverpool back then smh
Luis Garcia never forget
Looks fine to me
Genuinely don't think anyone cared in 2005. It only gets brought up now
He's taking the piss, not a legitimate UCL win in my eyes.
He was off his line imo
Nah I think we need the goaline view thingy, thin margins
>If Dudek was any further off his line he could have shook Pirlo's hand
Lmao
I know lmao, bit crazy that was allowed.
Bit annoying that City missed out on two FA Cups just because they wanted to sell more shirts in America
don't worry, next year will be man city quadruple season
With spurs back in the champions league? Pep better pray they avoid each other.
conte need to pray he can bring spurs to knockout stage 1st.
Anyone knows something about fanzones for real madrid fans in paris ?
What’s the command for the crossed out❌ Liverpool flair? Tbh, I’m more in the way that I don’t want Liverpool to win it than I want Real Madrid to win, so I think it’s a better representation Edit: found it
[Nuno Tavares is scared of Mount](https://twitter.com/EGTVEgal/status/1529247421720678400?s=20&t=Rs8FBqCYKpungGzDogEaXw)
Mount on his good days are on you like a rabbid dog, doesn't let you breathe or have space.
That’s Mount on every day - it’s the minimum he brings. Mount on a good day does that whilst also running the attacking system as the lynchpin, and scoring
I swear you get off on players/managers praising Chelsea. Years of watching TV series that had psychiatrists taught me that this means you weren't praised enough as a child
His arms were broken.
Oh, oh no
heh
Beautiful content for the ‘Esr > Mount’ nutjobs
Mason Mount brings the fear of God into relegation level defenders
[I know you're being sarcastic, but the one time that I can recall Mount tried acting like a hard-man, it was incredibly cringe](https://imgur.com/a/QbPigXL) [Video if you have access to the USA YouTube](https://imgur.com/a/QbPigXL)
Respect Alphonso Rabies
It's way too quiet with our transfer targets. De jong is the obvious one, and Timber. But beyond that it's a mix of different names all over the place, nothing concrete. When did United learn to stop leaking like a rusty pipe.
It’s not even June, don’t need to worry about a lack of rumours yet
Good! I'm sick of having these drawn out transfer sagas that keeps these scummy journalist that circle the club in a job. Hopefully we move silently and everything is done by the end of June.
I'm guessing Ten Hag wants to review his squad before deciding where they need to strengthen
I'm not sure what needs reviewing really. He can see how poor things have been. As awful as Ralf has been, he is still the best person available to say where the weaknesses are.
He says he wants his players signed before the pre season tour, so unlikely.
Kind of poetic that the weak link in defense for both Real and Liverpool lies on the right flank. Same with their wings. Their best wingers both play on the left and get to face the opponent's weak link
Carvajal since the PSG game has been great
lovely flair rho
Thank you Naruto
Let's be real: Pep was bailed out by awful VAR decisions and lucky deflected goals to win the title. You could argue that Klopp's Liverpool have been fairly the better team.
Liverpool just had to beat tiny tiny Tottenham Hotspur but couldn’t even do that
You could argue Liverpool should have had a man sent off in both games against city and title race was only so close because of that. But over the course of a season these things even out.
A man sent off in the 70th minutes guarantees a city goal?
No. But Ederson could save the Everton pen. That’s not a guaranteed goal either. These hypothetical situations could have multiple different outcomes. I just gave some Liverpool favourable decisions to show City haven’t been the only team to benefit from poor decisions.
Oh right - apologies. Yeah both teams had decisions in their favour at points in the league
No worries mate
What man should have been sent off at the Etihad?
Fabinho in the last game if that was at city. Milner in the first game
Fabinho should've also been sent off against us. Every team has decisions go against them and for them, it more or less balances out in the end.
For what hahaha. Some people on Reddit and being absolute fart is a match made in heaven
[You're a bit slow aren't you?](https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/ukwmcf/fabinho_foul_on_son_yellow_card/) I wonder what is it about Liverpool flair that makes them the worst posters on r/soccer.
That just isn’t a red hahaha But I guess I can’t say that because I have a Liverpool flair. Netball is probably the sport better suited to your tastes
> That just isn’t a red hahaha It's violent conduct, it's a red by the rulebook. The entire thread is full of people calling it a red, but I guess they don't know the rules either.
It isn’t violent conduct at all though. This happens all the time and I can’t recall a straight red ever for even worse than this. You call for a red every time someone jumps in the air with their elbows out? Wow people on Reddit thinking something is a red!? No way!! Not like they cry for a red every single game ever
Kane should’ve been sent off as well
Exactly. It evens out in the end.
True
Yeah I agree.
Every UEFA thread is the same. Ceferin: "Sunny innit" Madrid flairs: "Perez was so fucking right about the Super League."
Real Madrid flair: “Sunny innit” r/soccer virgins: hnnng plastic entitled franco Fc say it in Spanish cunt
The difference is that you can just scroll down a see loads of Madrid flairs happily engaged in discussion without those replies. But go find a thread where Ceferin says literally anything and you’re almost guaranteed to see a Madrid fan bringing up the Super League. Odd reply tbh.
I’m here every day, there is always at minimum 53 comments just shitting on Madrid fans. No context, no discussion worthy point, literally just ugh Madrid fans amirite vibes. Take your comment for example, in that ceferin thread there is literally one twat talking about the super league, and while he’s probably a RM fan, he doesn’t even have a flair…
Cool. So am I. Every club gets shit on when they’re doing well. You should be used to it. But Madrid fans, and some Juve fans, are literally the only ones so embarrassingly simping for the Super League.
Who comes to your mind when you hear this description? "Doesn't score often, but when he scores, it's always a banger"
Neves.
Townsend
Asensio
Kovacic
Djibril Sow
Neves
Nemanja Matic
Xhaka
Matić
The Spurs banger is etched into my mind
Back when we all liked Zouma
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I feel like he’s more “consistently chips in with key goals in big games”
Townsend
Malinowskyj
Giroud
Lamela
Kovacic
Tugay Kerimoglu
James Rodriguez.
I could remember that sensational banger in the 2014 World Cup. The one that won the Puskas award. That was one of the best bangers I've seen so far.
Townsend, then Ruben Neves
Emre Can
Andros Townsend for the extreme example
Asensio
This
Mikel and Torres Edit: Shit, I thought you said "He scores when he wants!"
https://twitter.com/lfcticketscheap/status/1529481699519877125?s=21&t=U4bZojqIJwmcfN6SPtTTvA Sweet Jesus of Nazareth
Ootl? I understand that they are scamming people selling tickets but is that amount of money only from the final or other games as well?
Yeah just the final. Apparently they were legit for a bit like selling on tickets and then just turned and ran with the money after the trust was built
Absolute cunts
Apart from Fulham, who you think is going to get relegated this season?
Bournemouth, Southampton - Huddersfield if they go up, but Leeds if they don’t
Bournemouth and maybe Leeds
I reckon Fulham could stay up tbh, there’s gonna be a lot of shit teams next season
Bournemouth, Southampton and the playoff winner