By - 2soccer2bot
Do you like the summer transfer period season? I love it. The names, the speculations the articles the heartbreaks etc. Its fun. Unless your team doesn't get any proper players. Then its not fun.
How good is Tchouameni and what player does he look like, if you can make any comparison
No one has been talking about the ressurection of salernitana in the last few weeks of the season, 2 months ago they were 18th with like 18 points and then they went on a 7 game unbeaten run and avoided relegation by single point over cagliari, impressive stuff
The sky sports reporting shoving in front of Ten Haag and his security and then saying it doesn’t look good being manhandled by security. I can’t imagine it’s nice being hounded and pushed in front of with a microphone either
Wouldn't be surprised if they're purposely trying to get under his skin from day dot in order to create drama. Drama=clicks.
Good to see the biggest team in Italy back on top.
fair play to Marseille fans, they just hate [everyone](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/uvdj9d/marseille_fans_carrying_a_coffin_of_girondins_de/)
>Pep on three goals in five minutes: "I called Real Madrid and they gave me good advice!"
Pep Guardiola to Jurgen Klopp tonight:
You were fantastic, absolutely fantastic, and do you know what? So was I
Pep to regenerate and get his hair back confirmed
I can't wait for old angry Scottish Pep.
Class reference that
Is thiago’s hair going grey or is that just how it looks?
He's going grey, based on how it looks.
[whats going on here lmao](https://twitter.com/D_DeGea/status/1528447994739277826)
Either way he's not lying
He says "team sport" but his Spanish accent makes it sound like he says poor.
Tbf, it does sound like he might is saying “sport team, team sport” in his Spanish accent.
I guess the meaning is the same and he’s throwing his team under the bus, but he didn’t outright say “team is poor”.
Apparently he said 'team sport' rather than 'team is poor'. Which I believe, rewatching it, although it sounds remarkably like 'team is poor' with his accent so understandable.
He says **sport**
That spanish accent is tricky
There needs to be something serious done about pitch invasions because it's getting beyond a joke now.
Talking about clubs from London:
Chelsea and Arsenal joint third-biggest club in England, or you'll place one over the other? What is your reason for picking either of the options?
Arsenal are quickly becoming irrelevant in Modern day football
Globally now its Chelsea maybe domestically Arsenal still considered bigger
It's still Arsenal for me, with such a gap in league titles between them and you. A couple more league titles for Chelsea and I'll have absolutely no problem acknowledging them as third.
Man City have won 4 of the last 5 leagues. What have Arsenal done in recent history? Having lots of deluded fans doesn't make you a big club.
They've won the third most league titles and the most FA Cups. They're a massive club for reason way beyond the size of their fanbase.
Actual success in Europe though.
Feel like having both puts us above them despite the gap in the league, CL is usually seen as the pinnacle of club football so Arsenal having nothing there is quite a big point against them.
Yeah, I don't know. It's really close, and I rate the CL so highly. But you're so far off their league title count that I just really struggle to look past that.
So Chelsea are bigger than Liverpool by your logic?
Arsenal's massive deluded fanbase is the only thing keeping them In the conversation.
What? Chelsea have 13 less league titles than Liverpool lmao
Idk, if we had 3 and they had 1 I'd agree with you Arsenal over Chelsea, but it's the complete lack of one that makes the difference for me.
But fair enough, agree to disagree.
> Talking about clubs from London:
> Chelsea and Arsenal joint third-biggest club in England
In london or in england, make up your mind?
Neither are in the top 3, sorry.
That 3-0 loss to United was unironically one of the best things to happen to us since Poch left
Without it we’re probs sitting here with god knows who as our manager, Conference League football or worse and the likely prospect of Kane leaving
it and Stevie turning it around against Leicester were both absolutely massive results
Your destiny’s switched that game
Let's not make the agenda that Burnley were wrong for sacking dyche. they were down with dyche. They had a decent chance without him
Got it on good authority that there weren’t many tears shed by the players after he went.
Burnley reminded me of Hull few years ago when Marco Silva came in. Team who got a good bounce out of new manager but in the end ran out of steam and the poor quality of squad caught up.
Dyche did a good job but that Burnley team wasn't staying up with him either.
>Dyche did a good job but that Burnley team wasn't staying up with him either.
He got them instantly promoted once before. Surely he'd be the best guy to do it again. Unless there was a falling out in the dressing room.
[*"Breaking | Aurélien Tchouameni has agreed personal terms with both Liverpool & Real Madrid. More follows. (RMC)"*](https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1528442416004571138?s=20&t=BnzDLVEIWaHd3Kt1mY9ppA)
Can somone here tell me what the fuck is this? I've been following football pretty much all my life but I still don't know what the fuck it even means!
He's got an angreement in principle with either club for contract length and pay, so it's down to the club to arrange the transfer fees and agent fees, whatever, before the contract gets finalised.
He is happy with the contract, signing bonus, bonuses etc. both teams have provided him, so whoever gives Monaco the most money will be the team he goes to.
He gonna join the Champions Of Europe once decided
He has agreed terms with both Real Madrid and Liverpool, now the club who is able to give Monaco the most money will sign him.
That’s what I think
West Ham, Fiore and Villarreal (potentially) in Conference League next season…sheesh
Lets see how Milan do next year in the UCL. Now that they will be in pot 1 instead of pot 4 they have a chance to get an easier group. Hope they go far
Like they did this year? Nothing much
I mean they were in pot 4 and were put in a really hard group
Not gonna pretend like I’ve seen tchouameni more than a couple times but to my understanding he’s more of a deep midfielder correct? Like a lone pivot or the holding player in a midfield 2? Is that accurate or?…
Cause I feel like the midfielder we need has to be a real b2b 8, like Bellingham ideally or someone more in that mold. So I’m a bit confused about this tchouameni signing. Or could he play as an 8 in a midfield 3?
seeing how liverpool had to rely on henderson as no 6 when fabinho injured, ibrahim sangare would be the ideal choice imo. tchouameni would be nice if ox leave. another ideal target would be fabian ruiz/vitinha
I won't act like I'm an expert either, but it seems like he does pretty well around the opposition box and might be slightly wasted as a lone DM. Probably would do well in a two man midfield. Agreed Bellingham seems a better fit for you anyways though.
For Monaco he’s definitely a sitter, but then again, Fabinho was played as a sitter in a midfield two and became our lone #6.
I think Klopp sees the potential to mould him into whatever he wants, a Vieira esc player with higher volume passing. He’d play Thiagos role, with a more creative RCM given freedom to push up. Fabinho-Tchouameni pivot could make teams look like kids
Yea I honestly see him more like a long term Thiago replacement. I just feel like there’s a really desperate need for that creative RCM spot, and idk if he’s that. But as you say he’s young and maybe Klopp sees some versatility in his potential
I’ve no clue what we’re going to do with RCM. He could probably change the system more with better midfield players so maybe we go 4-2-3-1
4231 is dead
NBC are frauds ffs. City Villa’s been over for about 2 hours. Upload the highlights already
Telemundo is clear
Step 1: Manager gets hired. Media starts publishing stories on how he’s a tactical mastermind and will revolutionise the team like nobody else could
Step 2: It doesn’t workout and the club starts feeding their journalists stories to shift the blame onto the manager
Step 3: Repeat ad nauseam
Reckon Salah equals Henry’s golden boot tally next season
Haalands taking that, Salahs stopping at 3
It will probably be Kane or Son because Liverpool have more quality backups
They’re both on three, no?
Gerrard's gonna be a meme for decades and I will love every second of that
Why is he a meme? It slipped my mind
Must be some player to have so many people still so caught up over your trophy count so many years after retirement.
Today went pretty well all things considered. Leeds stayed up, Liverpool didn’t win the league & arsenal didn’t get top 4. If carlsberg did Sundays etc etc.
Also Callum Wilson is a fucking shagger.
Imagine grouping staying up on the last day with two teams that are absolutely no relation to your club not achieving something.
Shock horror, but even as a fan of a club at the bottom end I can have preferences about what happens at the top end & it happened that my preferences came in.
Shame Leeds didn't go down then it would have been perfect for us. Maybe next year....
Tbf, leeds is always an easy 6 points, Burnley not so much, even in our worst ever prem season they managed to make us look like an actual team twice, haha
Been browsing around for a bit and I haven’t really seen any Arsenal flairs comment about the result.. did well today but damn just missed out on 4th
It was all but processional because of the loss against Newcastle, but it’s not over till the final whistle etc etc.
Because anyone who thought Tottenham would lose to Norwich are delusional so top 4 was lost anyway.
Eh, no one expected Norwich to beat Spurs. We blew our chance against Newcastle.
Real Sociedad C is playing in the Play-Offs for promotion to 3rd spanish tier
Vardy got 15 goals 0 pens despite being injured half the season. Pretty mad
Man said he's not finished
Moooom it’s happening again
Brooooommmmleyyyyyyyyyyy fucking have it lads. Great game.
Didn't think there would be so many fights to be honest
Is my flair showing as the genetic ball to everyone else?
No, I think is bug. I have that to
Ahhh okay excellent. Wismut Gera reigns supreme.
I can’t believe we’ve come back from 2 goals down to win 3-2 twice in 4 days
Will City reach league title #14 before Arsenal? They need 6 more and they’re probably going to win the next 2
Depends on FFP, and then the drive for ESL that results from when they try to actually enforce it. City and Arsenal might not be in the premier league in 5 years time.
Yes. To me the question is, will they draw level with Arsenal by the end of the decade.
When the fuck is August gonna get here, come on
The devastation the Liverpool fans must’ve felt when they realised it wasn’t 3-3, ouch
That actually happened? Please give me a link.
Kinda reminds me of United at Sunderland when they thought it was all over, celebrating and cheering, only for the name Aguero to be soon after echoed throughout the stadium
Have you got a link to the video?
Has it just never been reported much before or are all these pitch invasion assaults new?
Can’t remember any problems with pitch invasions in the past.
Feels like the fans have become wild this season
It seems like a very recent trend, but after the england - wembley stadium violence I'd put it down to a rise in coked up fans more than anything.
Despite my Trent slander, he's the only player that I had in my FPL team since GW 1 till GW 38.
how did he do though, that's the big question
Salernitana fans have made an incredible tifo and choreography for their game against Udinese. I'm going to be so disappointed if they get relegated
Whelp, looks like I'll have to do another FM save as Liverpool and show em how it's done.
Send me screenshots, just so I can pretend
ARSENAL GET BATTERED EVERYWHERE THEY GO LOLOLOLOL
They won 5-1 today though
Pretty drunk, so pinch of salt but that Olsen assault??
Swear fans just push him. Obviously not great but I was expecting him to get twatted.
Looks like someone hits him in the face a little after the initial pushes
More pitch invaders assaulting players.
But here told me that’s what real supporters do!
As I’ve said before. Lower league behaviour
That's where City would be if it wasn't for the backing of a slave state tbf
Up there with chanting “you’re shit ahhh” on goal kicks. Add in a cross of St George with the club name across for the holy trinity of ‘maybe we’ll make the playoffs’.
Oh yes. Par for the course for those muppets
Not just lower league but cretin behavior.
I'm happy that Milan won Serie A. Now Juventus will continue their domination.
What won’t City buy at this point?
I just read Olsen was attacked by pitch invaders so in my unbiased opinion Manchester City should be deducted 2 points
let it go
So now that the season is officially over, who would you say had the best starting 11 and squad between Klopp and Pep?
I’d argue for the first time it was Liverpool and this is Peps most impressive league win.
I wouldn't say it's the most impressive league win. For me this season has been blighted by poor refereeing throughout many games.
As far as a team goes to answer your question, I think City had issues with injuries and CBs, as well as a lack of a striker, and their squad size was smaller. Liverpool were probably hurt more by Salah not continuing his early season form, so we ended up losing because of a few key draws. Liverpool probably had the more balanced squad.
It was an incredibly close season, and both Liverpool City games were draws, so I honestly can't feel bad about losing the league. It's all what ifs and maybes.
Liverpool post january.
I think Diaz gives us the edge but before then I’d have said City. So half the season you half us, let’s call it even?
Injuries to Jota, Firmino and Mo went almost unnoticed thanks to him, but had that happened in October we’d have been fucked.
Liverpool have the best players itw in every position, even subs are top 2
Still think you've got the better squad overall, but it's much closer - especially since the signing of Diaz in Jan.
But yeah, you've won the league with no striker. Without a star forward/goalscorer in general, actually. It's very impressive.
Since January, Liverpool. Will change in summer with incomings for City
It’s been reflected since the signing of Diaz. We’ve played better than you, 5 points clear in the table since then.
Unfortunately for us, they already had a pretty decent lead on them.
Had the squads been the same since the start of the season, you'd have seen a different champion today I reckon -- reckon Diaz was good for at least couple more points somewhere.
Agree. Diaz complete game changer, and also Thiago fitness improved after Christmas. Finest of margins once again
Can I just ask why City fans are obsessed with this question? It gets asked here by City fans at least twice a day. You've just won back-to-back titles and you're still on about it. It's like you're just hoping somebody calls you an underdog.
Because your fans seem to simultaneously think you have the best players in the world in every single position and that Klopp is also a ‘miracle worker’ working on a shoestring budget.
Pretty much. They'll go on about the budget but that's irrelevant to the manager.
What matters to them is the quality of the player. Liverpool's front 3 all combined cost a similar amount to Jack yet they're all better to him. Why does the 100M matter to Pep when he gets an inferior player?
Thiago/Robertson/Matip/TAA etc all cost next to nothing.
Moulding players is more impressive than buying the finished product, obviously.
Thiago/Robbo/Salah etc all hit the ground running mate. It's also arguable how much Klopp "molded" TAA.
Also, most City fans will tell you how Pep "molded" their players as well.
Robertson didn’t hit the ground running. He couldn’t even displace Alberto Moreno until the winter. Moreno, one of our worst left backs in recent times.
Not really as that's on Klopp. Robbo was impressive whenever he played and was elite when started consistently.
Klopp made a mistake sticking with Moreno for half a season. Robbo was a far better player.
He really wasn’t but I’m impressed a Barca fan has such strong feelings about cameo appearances from 5 years ago.
> He really wasn’t
Ah yes, he went from being an absolute bum (worse than Moreno) to being the best LB in the prem in 5 months lmao. Sure buddy.
> but I’m impressed a Barca fan has such strong feelings about cameo appearances from 5 years ago.
Where's the strong feelings bit from? Anyways, if you're active on a football circle, it's hard to miss top Prem matches/news especially with their convenient kickoff timings.
I saw Foden's debut and progression as well. Won't be the only Barca fan as well.
Klopp is a miracle worker for making them one of the best players in the world and what he did with the team since joining. No one thinks we’re on a shoestring budget, just compared to City’s it might look like that.
I do see his point, Liverpool fans claim to have the best player’s in every position, the best manager, even the best depth at some points this season and yet fell short
We won the two domestic cups, finished on 92 points with a point behind city and are in the CL final, how is that falling short? If anything it solidifies what the fans have been saying
How is finishing a point off top on 2 occasions not falling short? If Liverpool have the better team and the better manager what is it that has made such a fine difference on both occasions? I’m genuinely asking for your opinion
Never said we have the best players and manager but even then they still wont be wrong, imo City has both and they still only won a single trophy this season, would you say they fell short? Teams with the best players/manager almost never win every single trophy. I cant actually believe I have to explain this for you, its like speaking to a 10 year old.
City absolutely fell short in the other competitions and I doubt any of their fans would suggest otherwise? Absolutely no clue why you’re getting so upset, wasn’t having a dig at Liverpool was genuinely asking what you felt made the difference this season, no need to be a dickhead really is there
Because its obvious that having the best players or manager wont automatically mean you should win every competition, simple as. Sorry if I came across as such, just a bit sore of what happened today.
To be fair, system and “wasn’t good before Klopp” are far more common for Liverpools team than for Citys.
Even if it’s sometimes not accurate.
I can’t picture myself being arsed about this right now. Fucking hell go have a pint or something.
Mate, how are whinging about this when you replied to him first? I swear any excuse to moan on here.
Whinging? I’m just surprised. You wouldn’t find me anywhere near a football forum if we pulled that result off. You good?
> I’m just surprised.
Yeah, just surprise. No snark at all.
Imagine acting like a muppet then trying to act like a goody two shoes lmao.
> You wouldn’t find me anywhere near a football forum if we pulled that result off.
That's your preference. Similarly, it's his choice to spend his time as his likes.
Weird behaviour to ask him a question then whine about it when he replies.
If you don’t want to discuss football don’t come to an online football discussion forum.
I would not be discussing football if my side just did what you did today. Lmao. Certainly wouldn’t be fishing for “how fucking good are we” comments.
Probably because they want Pep to get more credit, and people often use the fact that he's never managed an underdog as a way of discrediting him.
Those people are ignorant about Barca in 08/09. We were definitely the underdogs going into the season.
it's just like Pep trying to gas up his own accomplishments since they crashed out of the UCL lol.
Rafael Leao at the bridge is soooo soo needed
He is a hero we need, not the one we deserve
Uhm no. That is not needed.
Leipzig celebrations were pathetic as expected but they actually got more people to come than Bayern lmao
Is that surprising loll
Anyone see Thiago's little boy skillfully dribbling with the ball post game? I assume it was his since wearing a number six jersey. The football gene runs strong in that family. As a whole it was great to see the players parading around with the little ones.
Really shows the FA Cup and league cups decline that we have won both and would still be immensely disappointed with this season if we lose the final.
You shouldn’t be mate . Any trophy is worth winning
kinda ironic when most people including liverpool fans never expected liverpool to win domestic cup let alone two early in the season cause klopp will heavily rotated the squad
lol thats not decline, thats just the expectations u have are high.
It's mad how much bigger our 2006 FA Cup win is in my head compared to this years win
If Man City doesn't renew Gündogan even he's lost his back, they are a disgrace.
They should completely shred his contract 👍
They want to, he doesn't want to