They're now the lowest placing team ever to qualify for the Champions League. If you include the European Cup, they tied the record of Aston Villa, who was also 11th in 1981/82 when they won it and qualified for the following season.
> Aston Villa, who was also 11th in 1981/82 when they won it
As far as I can tell, Doug Ellis fucked off for one year, and Villa immediately went from mid-table to European Champions. He came back, and it's been mid-table ever since.
As a show of good support, perhaps Barca fans might invade Frankfurt’s stadium for that game and clinch a win but not sure if most of them could afford it
Frankfurt fans will fill the stadium before the barca fans even reach germany. And even if barca fans invade the stadium, the frankfurt fans will still be louder than them
Love the guy. Always giving his all on the pitch, he drops really deep and runs a lot each game. He's not the most clinical striker, but he's scored or assisted when it mattered the most, super clutch player. He will only get better with a proper striker next to him, expecting bit things from him and Kolo Muani next season!
Borré is a fucking Chad, man, just his first season in Germany and he is already a legend for Frankfurt
Fucking Rueda, I'm still salty because that clown wasted all the talent Colombia has right now with players like Díaz, Sinisterra, Borré, etc and we will miss WC thanks to him
Mina is pretty good he is everton's and colombia's best defender when fit which is a rarity. Davinson isnt consistent so not great, mojica and cuadrado as fullbacks are very good, Uribe, barrios and james is a pretty good midfield trio. Talented squad that should easily qualify to the world cup on paper.
Depends, to have more clubs in the competion doesnt boost your coefficient. If Frankfurt fails and only gets 3th or 4th it could decrease it. But yes, bad German year will go away and a good year from italy also.
Something similar could happen this season in Portugal. Tondela got demoted to the second league, but still has to play the Cup final against Porto. If they win (which is not very probable), they qualify to the Europa League. Which means that next season they would be in the second league but play European football.
Even worse, in 2002, we had Leixões, who at the time played in the third division of Portugal, qualifying for the UEFA Cup because they reached the cup final against Sporting.
FC Zurich did the opposite, qualified directly into the UEL groupstages, with winning the 2016 Swiss cup while being relegated one week prior as 10th. So they took part as second division team. They are the current Swiss champs this season.
Bar Chelsea English clubs are notoriously bad in the EL (we’ll see about ECL) since 1991 in relation to the resources they have available. They have like four winners in 32 years and six runners up, one being part of an all English final, which was won by Chelsea.
Who are you aiming this at..?
The 2 English teams in EL this season were Leicester and West Ham.
Don't think you could say Leicester disregarded it, they just didn't perform well.. and West Ham made it to the semi finals whilst very clearly focusing on it over the league.
no. There is an additional constraint that one league cant have more than 5 teams in the UCL.
If a league with 4 slots has the teams that win both EL and UCL and those teams didn't qualify though top4, the league's 4th slot goes away. The slot goes to the 3rd in the 5th best league (France) I believe.
The scenario is however quite unlikely because how often does a team that wins UCL not finish at least 4th in their respective league. And even if that happens, another non-top4 team in your league has to win the EL. Dont think this has ever happened but i could be wrong.
I agree and once it will happen, the outcry will be massive but its not far-fetched to say that it will likely never happen.
Its such a corner-case that requires so many unlikely thinks to happen at once:
* Can only happen in a league with 4 slots so England, Spain, Germany, Italy
* The CL winner has to come from that league and not place top4
* The EL winner has to come from that league and not place top4
Last time the 2nd thing happened was Chelsea 2012 so one decade ago. And obviously the 3rd didn't happen.
was a bit confused before I realized you talk about 2012 not 2021. Unlikely but it happened. Now for the 4th team to be boned, it would still have needed another non-top4 team from PL to win the EL which obviously didn't happen.
Its so unlikely.
After Liverpool won the CL they finished something like 7.,8. Or 9. Place in the league in the same season. They contacted FIFA to get them into the upcoming CL for winning it the previous season. They ended with another English team in the group stage.
I hope my memory doesn't fucks with me and I don't make shit up lol
It goes down the UEFA ranking ladder. I think a team from the tenth placed country skips a qualifaction round and goes directly in or something like that.
> not if non-bayern german teams in europe continue their tradition of being shite in the CL
The tradition of being shite in EL is dealt with.
CL is up next.
I believe had a team that already qualified for CL group stages won Europa, then 11th in the coefficient would have had a direct spot in the group stage but neither Frankfurt or Rangers qualified for CL GS via their domestic leagues.
Yes. And since Frankfurt finished the league outside the usual European positions, they get to keep all the other 7. So, Germany will have 8 teams in competitions next season.
I remember the good times when we were ranked 2nd in 2016 I believe. Now we'll have a solid spot at 3rd starting next season but I don't see us going in top 2 anytime soon, almost impossible to compete financially.
Nop, they will be on the playoff because they were 2nd in the Scottish League. Celtic, as Scottish League champions, are going straight into the group stages after Russia's ban.
Mostly correct but Celtic would go into the UCL regardless because Liverpool/Real are both certain to qualify for UCL through their domestic leagues.
Rangers also enter at UCL Q3 rather than the PO round, I think so atleast not 100% certain.
Frankfurt have qualified for the European Cup/Champions League for only the second time in their history, after 63 years!
Frankfurt have only won 1 German championship in their history, doing so in the 1958/59 season (prior to the Bundesliga). This qualified them to the European Cup, in which they finished as runners-up after losing to Real Madrid 7:3 in the 1960 final, one of the greatest football matches of all time, and the last of Real's five consecutive titles from the creation of the competition.
As Europa League winners, Frankfurt will be in pot 1 of the UCL draw as a seeded team.
Hasebe's longevity has been actually insane, he was part of the Wolfsburg side with Dzeko and Grafite that won the Bundesliga in 2009 and now he's won the Europa League thirteen years later at the age of 38.
They're now the lowest placing team ever to qualify for the Champions League. If you include the European Cup, they tied the record of Aston Villa, who was also 11th in 1981/82 when they won it and qualified for the following season.
Imo that's the most impressive crazy thing about this final win.
They won 7 Europa games and 10 league games!
They won 5 out of their last 15 games, all of which were Europa League wins
Priorities
Was it a 20 team league back then? If so it say it's a valid tiebreaker to call Frankfurt the lowest placed team
It was a 22 team league back then.
> Aston Villa, who was also 11th in 1981/82 when they won it As far as I can tell, Doug Ellis fucked off for one year, and Villa immediately went from mid-table to European Champions. He came back, and it's been mid-table ever since.
I wonder who we beat to do that.....
1st seed as well right?
Winners of EL goes to Pot 1 of CL
Yes
Yes
Now imagine the face of Barcafans when they get into the same group as Frankfurt.
I'd take them on
As a show of good support, perhaps Barca fans might invade Frankfurt’s stadium for that game and clinch a win but not sure if most of them could afford it
Frankfurt fans will fill the stadium before the barca fans even reach germany. And even if barca fans invade the stadium, the frankfurt fans will still be louder than them
> And even if barca fans invade the stadium Bold of you to assume Raj from Jaipur will make it.
🤣
Are we going to pretend that barca don't have "real" fans or something lol.
Have to imagine it cause we know they won’t be at the Nou Camp
It's the Spotify Camp Nou, thank you verra much.
So that's where my streaming royalties are going.
Real madrid fans with Spotify subscription punching air rn
I actually want them lol
Will you have your own stadium by then?
you wanna give up your stadium again?
Loads of us are hoping for it.
One German invasion wasn't enough?
No one expects the German invasion
why, do you wanna sell off the tickets again?
It's much, but it's not honest work.
You’d get smacked again
I don’t see Borre getting enough love in this sub
Love the guy. Always giving his all on the pitch, he drops really deep and runs a lot each game. He's not the most clinical striker, but he's scored or assisted when it mattered the most, super clutch player. He will only get better with a proper striker next to him, expecting bit things from him and Kolo Muani next season!
Miss him and his goals on offside. I'm not an german-league follower, but I cheered for you against barsa and today. Love your "hinchada".
Borré is a fucking Chad, man, just his first season in Germany and he is already a legend for Frankfurt Fucking Rueda, I'm still salty because that clown wasted all the talent Colombia has right now with players like Díaz, Sinisterra, Borré, etc and we will miss WC thanks to him
how are your midfielders/defenders? all i know is Mina who I'm not sure how good he is at all
Mina is pretty good he is everton's and colombia's best defender when fit which is a rarity. Davinson isnt consistent so not great, mojica and cuadrado as fullbacks are very good, Uribe, barrios and james is a pretty good midfield trio. Talented squad that should easily qualify to the world cup on paper.
Man ever since that cross which led to the goal in the first minute vs West Ham i've been in love with him
And that screamer against barca
Honestly I thought he wasn't all that good in the few first Frankfurt games I watched this season. Boy he proved me wrong, what a player.
Imagine they pull a Villareal and make the UCL semis
We will win the final and then procede to lose the relegation battle in the BL🤠
2011Schalke but even better
Wins Champions League Loses relegation play off to Sandhausen Refuses to elaborate *Steigt ab*
You forgot "Plays 2.Bundesliga and Champions League in the same season".
The meme only consists of four lines though. Edit: Also the last line is usually very short.
Pretty sure any Frankfurt fan would 100% sign up to that timeline.
honestly though, i'd almost believe it if they get some good signings these fuckers do black magic in europe, its not normal
This time they go all the way to the final
For family
One last ride
They’ll be saying that even when it’s F&F 37: Jurassic park
Toretto's vehicle of choice? A T-Rex with a blower on its head. The muscle car of the jurassic period
Vin Diesel crying in a corner
They'll keep coming back to the CL year after year despite finishing 5th and lower in the Bundesliga.
All-German semifinals here we go
As a dortmund member who lives there, im all for it
5 german clubs in the CL next season hell yeah!
Italy is so 4th next year in coefficient :( our best year is going away too. Congrats though
Depends, to have more clubs in the competion doesnt boost your coefficient. If Frankfurt fails and only gets 3th or 4th it could decrease it. But yes, bad German year will go away and a good year from italy also.
Maybe they go out as third and do the Sevilla special
That was clear before Eintracht's win, no?
I mean the gap will widen further unless one of our top 4 has a miracle season
More clubs in the competion doesnt mean more points for your Nation, since it only took the mean over all clubs.
Wow all of these years and I never knew that. Still more chances to advance or drop down to Europe league I suppose
So Germany will have 8 teams in Europe next year. I'm honestly scared for the ranking.
You shouldn't be. Germany might pass Italy but the gap between 4th and 5th is pretty big.
As long as you are above France everything is fine
Trapp and Borré were so fucking good
What a miracle save at the end. Definitely the hero of the match
2 miraculous saves. The free kick also was actually really good
Whatever happened to Hauge? He lost the ball mostly by trying to dribble.
nerves most likely
Could be a good year for Germans in the CL.
Need it after this year's flop.
Toni Kroos is going to play in the final tho
And theres this one coach
Yeah what was his name again? Matze Knop?
No, it was like thing, wait I got it Guido Knopp
They meant as a league
No Wolfsburg in there, that's a good start
Or only Bayern going to the knockout stage. Again…
Bayern - Frankfurt CL final, BvB chokes in group stage again. Heard it here first people
Not if your name is ilkay gundogan 😅
He'll join us on a low wage just because he loves us and win it next year. Right?.. Right?
Yeah if only Lewandowski wouldn't leave this summer, that would be great
Is this Choupo-Moting music that I'm hearing?!
It’s Choupo Moting outta nowhere
“Choupo? After all this time?” *”Always”*
[You heard it here first.](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/uj7287/z/i7h7cav)
Lol as 11th in the league
Weirder things have happened. Union Berlin qualified for the 2001/02 Uefa Cup as a 2nd league team by reaching the domestic cup final
Oh yeah so did we in 1992/93 by winning the domestic cup. As 2nd league team as well
So did we! Reached the final in 04, UEFA Cup qualification thanks to Bremen
They were actually in the 3rd tier when they reached the cup final, which makes it even more impressive.
Something similar could happen this season in Portugal. Tondela got demoted to the second league, but still has to play the Cup final against Porto. If they win (which is not very probable), they qualify to the Europa League. Which means that next season they would be in the second league but play European football. Even worse, in 2002, we had Leixões, who at the time played in the third division of Portugal, qualifying for the UEFA Cup because they reached the cup final against Sporting.
Wigan in 2013 also played europa league and championship
Also Birmingham at some point too
Yes that’s correct, 2011-12 season they were Europa league and championship
FC Zurich did the opposite, qualified directly into the UEL groupstages, with winning the 2016 Swiss cup while being relegated one week prior as 10th. So they took part as second division team. They are the current Swiss champs this season.
real madrid’s B team played in the Cup Winner’s Cup once because they made the final against Real Madrid and lost lol
Wigan and Birmingham city played european football while in the Championship
FC Zurich did this too not so long ago Edit: in the Swiss challenge division not the English championship
To be fair as soon as they won against Barcelona, they stopped giving a shit about the league.
Weren't they 9th when they beat Barcelona? Not much of a difference.
Shoutout to all the English teams who disregard Europa League only to focus on qualifying to Europe.
Bar Chelsea English clubs are notoriously bad in the EL (we’ll see about ECL) since 1991 in relation to the resources they have available. They have like four winners in 32 years and six runners up, one being part of an all English final, which was won by Chelsea.
Who are you aiming this at..? The 2 English teams in EL this season were Leicester and West Ham. Don't think you could say Leicester disregarded it, they just didn't perform well.. and West Ham made it to the semi finals whilst very clearly focusing on it over the league.
Congrats to Frankfurt and mostly Trapp. Also their kit is so fucking clean wth.
PSG legend
They should sign him again, man knows how to win an international trophy...
You're one to talk 😉
Europas bester Torwart
How does this work? Will the Bundesliga have 5 teams in the next Champions League season?
Yes, like spain this year
assuming Madrid wins the final, who receives their ucl spot?
Real Madrid. You only get an extra spot if you win the CL/EL and finish outside the CL spots in your league.
So is it possible to have 6 Spanish teams in the CL if CL and EL winners are outside the top 4?
no. There is an additional constraint that one league cant have more than 5 teams in the UCL. If a league with 4 slots has the teams that win both EL and UCL and those teams didn't qualify though top4, the league's 4th slot goes away. The slot goes to the 3rd in the 5th best league (France) I believe. The scenario is however quite unlikely because how often does a team that wins UCL not finish at least 4th in their respective league. And even if that happens, another non-top4 team in your league has to win the EL. Dont think this has ever happened but i could be wrong.
Unlikely scenario but still bullshit. Imagine fighting all season to finish 4th and having that slot taken away from you.
I agree and once it will happen, the outcry will be massive but its not far-fetched to say that it will likely never happen. Its such a corner-case that requires so many unlikely thinks to happen at once: * Can only happen in a league with 4 slots so England, Spain, Germany, Italy * The CL winner has to come from that league and not place top4 * The EL winner has to come from that league and not place top4 Last time the 2nd thing happened was Chelsea 2012 so one decade ago. And obviously the 3rd didn't happen.
England actually still had 4 teams in the CL in 2013. Spurs were knocked out despite finishing 4th.
Rules were changed to max. 5 teams after that I think.
the Tottenham
That already happened to Spurs (of course)
Very spursy thing to happen.
Chelsea came 6th when we won CL.
was a bit confused before I realized you talk about 2012 not 2021. Unlikely but it happened. Now for the 4th team to be boned, it would still have needed another non-top4 team from PL to win the EL which obviously didn't happen. Its so unlikely.
the rule was changed after tottenham lost their spot.
Chelsea did it in 2012
After Liverpool won the CL they finished something like 7.,8. Or 9. Place in the league in the same season. They contacted FIFA to get them into the upcoming CL for winning it the previous season. They ended with another English team in the group stage. I hope my memory doesn't fucks with me and I don't make shit up lol
It goes down the UEFA ranking ladder. I think a team from the tenth placed country skips a qualifaction round and goes directly in or something like that.
Nobody.
Correct. Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Leipzig, Leverkusen, and now Frankfurt.
That's a strong line up
At least half of them will bottle it as is tradition
You my friend watch german football
Watch Leipzig and Leverkusen be the only team in ro16
Nah, Bayern is always money in the group stage. They might bottle it in the ko stage but not in the group.
It is but that all depends on who their groups are.
Frankfurt doing the heavy lifting though
not if non-bayern german teams in europe continue their tradition of being shite in the CL
> not if non-bayern german teams in europe continue their tradition of being shite in the CL The tradition of being shite in EL is dealt with. CL is up next.
So one other team will have to lose it's place, right? How does that work?
I believe had a team that already qualified for CL group stages won Europa, then 11th in the coefficient would have had a direct spot in the group stage but neither Frankfurt or Rangers qualified for CL GS via their domestic leagues.
yes, Spain have had this a number of times.
It even happened to England back when you guys won it.
Yes
Yes. And since Frankfurt finished the league outside the usual European positions, they get to keep all the other 7. So, Germany will have 8 teams in competitions next season.
Yes
Yes
IM HERZEN VON EUROPA
an einem wunderschönen mittwochabend
Schaut mal was euch der liebe Onkel Feines mitgebracht hat
Nüchts wovor man sich fürchten müsste
Coefficient stonks
I remember the good times when we were ranked 2nd in 2016 I believe. Now we'll have a solid spot at 3rd starting next season but I don't see us going in top 2 anytime soon, almost impossible to compete financially.
Is frankfurt in first seed for CL now?
Yes.
EUROPASIEGER! Congrats lads!
Unreal. Can't wait to see what fans have in store for their home games.
Deserved. Would love to their fans again in the big stages.
And I hope Rangers can win their playoff game. Both clubs and their fans deserve Champions League nights.
Thf Rangers Fans were quiet asf tonight for some reason.
Runners-up go into the CL playoff? I didn't know that rule, but I agree with you.
No they qualified through the league. Have to win two ties now though
Nop, they will be on the playoff because they were 2nd in the Scottish League. Celtic, as Scottish League champions, are going straight into the group stages after Russia's ban.
We actually would have been there regardless of the Russia situation.
Mostly correct but Celtic would go into the UCL regardless because Liverpool/Real are both certain to qualify for UCL through their domestic leagues. Rangers also enter at UCL Q3 rather than the PO round, I think so atleast not 100% certain.
No, but since they finished 2nd in their league they will go to the playoff round based on Scotland's coefficient
2nd in Scotland gets CL playoff spot
Nah they dont, they qualified for Playoffs because they are second in their league.
What a legendary run they did, to be talked for years and the bigger price is that Ucl spot, any team would want that monetary reward.
Frankfurt have qualified for the European Cup/Champions League for only the second time in their history, after 63 years! Frankfurt have only won 1 German championship in their history, doing so in the 1958/59 season (prior to the Bundesliga). This qualified them to the European Cup, in which they finished as runners-up after losing to Real Madrid 7:3 in the 1960 final, one of the greatest football matches of all time, and the last of Real's five consecutive titles from the creation of the competition. As Europa League winners, Frankfurt will be in pot 1 of the UCL draw as a seeded team.
I knew the movement Commentator said former Arsenal man.
Trapp is a god
Understatement.
Kamada and Hasebe playing champions league baby. Frankfurt, I love youuuu.
Hasebe was great today.
Hasebe's longevity has been actually insane, he was part of the Wolfsburg side with Dzeko and Grafite that won the Bundesliga in 2009 and now he's won the Europa League thirteen years later at the age of 38.
Very excited to see how they do.
HOLY SHIT.
Congratulations and thank you!
Congratulations Frankfurt. Sevco in the bin
Yaaaassss
Surprise outfit this season went all in on europa the barca game was fantastic hope the cl draw is kind to them.
> hope the cl draw is kind to them. call an ambulance but not for me
You were solid against West ham too a side who recently drew against Man City. Good luck to you all!
Idk why, but this comment made me die of laughter
Well deserved.
I fucking love you, lads. Celtic are now my second team.
Probably the team with the lowest league ranking ever to play in the UCL. Btw Eintracht deserves the UEL win! Congrats.
Happy for Frankfurt
Congrats to both sides for a great match. Rangers are definitely going to be back
I'm happy to have seen a final without psg/real/city/barca/chelsea/bayern
You will see another two next week
Im literally crying right now wtf
Wasn't like a third of the actual team missing?