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webDev_nd_mma

Benzema 1 goal, Kane 2 goals. Benzema wishes he can get to Kane's level someday, man is a fraud


osamaodinson

Caught micah richards reddit account


der_Globetrotter

Well, since no one mentioned it here… Kroos wore the captain armband for the 1st time ever!


wanderer1999

Well deserved. After Marcelo, Nacho and Benz, what's the order? I forgot after all these years...


InternationalTop4

Modric, Carvajal, Isco, Bale, Casemiro, Kroos


EpiDeMic522

This seems about right but I'm slightly confused about Casemiro. Loans don't count but then what about Lucas? Espanyol was just a loan. In fact Dani was the buyback.


secondworsthuman

Casemiro should be ahead of Bale. He had a game under Mourinho I think.


chak100

Marcelo, Nacho, Benzema and Modric


hokagesamatobirama

Actually it is Marcelo, Benzema, Nacho and Modric.


daphamman

Despite the result, I feel like Levante’s GK was tremendous.


cyrusmancub

Agreed. Pulled off some super saves. Levante were actually lucky. Could’ve easily been 10-0.


911MemeEmergency

Has "Vallejo Maldini regen" stopped being a meme?


MelodicMachine1356

Nah you should see Twitter


Letterforth

This win gives the team a very good confidence boost ahead of the CL final. Well done


cr7momo16

Fun game


OnePieceAce

Vini Jr in good form heh


MelodicMachine1356

3 goals 1 assist


RamezMadrid

Vallejo played a perfect game. And Vini is an unreal player.


los_blanco_14

- our lw scoring a hatrick and hitting the suiii - modric dropping a masterclass - benz supplying our LW - midfield dropping a masterclass What is this? 2017?


EggplantBusiness

I kinda like those flashbacks games we should do that more often


BlueBone313

We just need to bench kroos it’s been a while since i felt the team can’t perform without him.


moreno03

Leftback randomly plays as a striker and scores


celigodtko

and we win the UCL final 4-1


bb_throwaway24

Although Levante were undeniably awful (kinda surprisingly) that may actually have been our best game this season, or at least our best 45 minutes. Modric was incredible, Valverde should have had at least one fantastic long range goal and both Nacho and Vallejo(!) dominated in defence. Nothing to complain about really, even Jovic looked decent coming on.


taZz727

I agree. This has been our best performance all season. We dominated the game in a way we haven't seen in quite a while. Granted, it was against bottom of the table. Still refreshing to see this sort of performance.


Alive-Ad-4164

If this Real Madrid team gets Mbappe then it’s wraps for everybody


Maximuslex01

That's what I call an overreaction...


Articlaus

Not really, ManCity got The Viking Boy. its they are the deadly one.. "For NOW"..


nashgrg

It’s okay Viking boi will join Turtle in couple of years. Let him shine there. Will be good for us eventually.


EmptyReply5

Thor and Leonardo in same team


BlueBone313

Wait which movie is this again?


Bonaque

Wouldn't fear Viking boy to much, he seems to be injury prone/rushes back to soon.


_Sylph_

Pep team seems to be able to handle injured prone players pretty well, honestly I wouldn't count on him being fit all the time. It's more of a question how much would he improves City as a whole, would he be a perfect cog in Pep's system I think.


guitardude44

Nice


gallantmondukemon

Vini with 21 goals and 20 assists in all competitions now. Mane with 22 goals and 5 assists is somehow Ballon d'Or worthy...


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Traditional-Area-277

Only Americans and British say that


lagrandesgracia

Ballon d'or this year is vini Benzema and cortuois easy


yorgee15

Modric also.


L_CRF

Neymar at the same age had 30 g+a in 13/14, Vinicius is the real deal.


A_Chicken_Dino

I honestly dont think anyone is seriously considering Mane for Ballon d’or, fans or journalists alike, other than liverpool fans who keep trying to push it. Dont get me wrong, Mane is fantastic and he’s having a banging season, but he’s not near ballon d’or level.


SorbeteIceCream

some might


Competitive-Ad2006

You're dead wrong about that. Mane is getting a lot of shouts for the ballon d or. You might think afcon is useless but it is indeed a trophy, just like the COPA. It counts.


TimTkt

If Afcon counts, nations league should clearly count way more


Competitive-Ad2006

Wow, the disrespect.


celigodtko

or you know. Nations League has better teams overall. Top4 of NL is way stronger then any AFCON team. (Top4 was Italy,Belgium,Spain,France) Its not disrespect.


clashoftherats

What does that have to do with anything? Thats like saying PL > Serie A because the top 4 teams are better than their equivalent. Competition, history and importance is what makes a trophy great.


TimTkt

We are talking about Ballon d’or criterias, league competitiveness is also taken into account, that’s why winning Bundesliga and Ligue 1 are way less « valuable » than Liga or PL


clashoftherats

Why wouldnt AFCON be counted like the NL just because of the strength of the collective teams? Its still as competitive and is as hard to win. The leagues you mentioned are less valuable (in terms of Ballon D’or criteria) for players like Lewa and Mbappe because they are expected to win it, but if someone like Yilmaz for ex. was in Ballon D’or contention last year, his title win would’ve counted the same like any other league, if not more. Still dont see how that is relevant to AFCON and NL because both are competitive and Senegal winning it isnt like Bayern/PSG winning their leagues.


TimTkt

The global level is also taken into account, it’s to name the best player in the world, not the best depending on some random criterias. Otherwise they shall also take into account the winner of 3rd Portuguese league because it also happened to be competitive ? Mane is not even the best Liverpool player this year.


celigodtko

Well not like it matters because Mane is not better then Vini. So he has absolutely no chance against Benzema.


clashoftherats

Yeah, no one said otherwise.


celigodtko

The guy above argueing about Mane Ballon O'dor. Just saying.


EggplantBusiness

Is there a single person that think a national team trophy is useless ? I think what people complain is there over importance of trophies when the rules have specifically been changed to prioritize individuals performance. If two players had close performance or not too far apart i would understand trophies as a tie breaker not the main argument.


Competitive-Ad2006

And I'm telling you trophies have been deciding these things for a long time. You as a Madrid fan should know this, given Ronaldo wasn't statistically the best in 2016 or 2017 for he last two ballon d ors. However, he won trophies. Modric too - he won trophies and got to thr final of one. Mane won afcon and was the best player in the tournament.


LaundryMann

Respectfully, AFCON doesn't hold nearly as much weight as Copa América or the Euros, let alone the World Cup.


Feliz_Desdichado

No need to be respectful tbh, anyone in AFCON, AFC or CONCACAF should know our trophies are very much below in prestige compared to the two big ones, and even then the copa is below the euros.


_belly_in_my_jelly_

modrić was arguably the best player in the world on that AND other occasions


Competitive-Ad2006

>AND other occasions What occasions? Or are you about to lie and say Ronaldo wasn't Madrids best player in that champions league.


king2pac

The UCL wasn't the only tournament that year kid. Modric was the best player at the fvcking world cup... levels


Competitive-Ad2006

We're getting somewhere, kid. The ucl hasn't been been only tournament either over thr last few months. Mane has been the best player at afcon, like Messi was at the copa.


king2pac

How old are you? And when did you start following football kid?


uchiha_boy009

In both Semi final matches vs Bayern and final vs Liverpool Modric dropped a masterclass while Ronaldo was the worst player in Madrid.


Competitive-Ad2006

Who was the man of the match in the final??was it Modric?


uchiha_boy009

He would have been if it was not for Bale goal and bale won it rightly so but Modric was the second best player of the night.


Witty_Iron296

In semis and final? No, Ronaldo was not Madrids best player. Not even second best or third. He was great against Psg and first leg vs Juve though.


Competitive-Ad2006

Of course I was referring to the campaign overall. Would be hard to be your team's best player in every game wouldn't it?


Pee_on_tech

sure it counts but why does a AFCON trophy help for an individual award?


Eddie5pi

The same way winning a world cup or champions league helps someones case.


Pee_on_tech

Why should salah be penalized for his team effectively killing his balon dor chances by this reasoning? Taken together Salah's season is miles better than mane's season except mane's team didn't completely fuck him over in the penalty shoot out


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staedtler2018

Because his name is Messi.


Corteaux81

That B d’Or was funny. :) Lewa could’ve scored 20 more goals, Messi still would’ve won it.


MelodicMachine1356

It's messi


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PR


gallantmondukemon

Totally agreed.


SocX9

You mean Benzema :) Edit: I was thinking of Benzema's overall Laliga contributions. Vini actually reached those numbers overall HOLY FUCK.


RjHospe

I think everyone in general don't see Mane as a Balon D'or competitor for this season. Just pundits trying to force an extra level of drama to an already exciting CL final


javierich0

But they already have Salah, who has better numbers. Mane doesn't make sense.


Competitive-Ad2006

Dude, speak for yourself.


pranav53465

I argued this with you like a month or so ago with Lewandowski instead of Mane, and since then Benzema and Vinicius have only improved their records. Mane is not even comparable to Lewandowski this season, let alone Benzema. If he wins the award, it would probably be the biggest robbery of all time. With every passing comment of yours, my belief that 2006 is your birth year increases.


Competitive-Ad2006

You're that dude that believes Benzema, not Henry is France's greatest ever striker? Can't take you seriously mate, you're either too biased or were in fact born after 2006.


jtrack473

And you're the dude that's a Messi fanboy trolling Real Madrid threads. Carry on, champ.


pranav53465

Maybe because he is? He's had better longevity and a higher peak.


Competitive-Ad2006

Dude, I'm not sure you were watching football in 2002-2006 but Thierry was epl top scorer multiple times, and held the record for having 20 goals and 20 assists until Messi broke it. Benzema had never top scored in a league until last year, and has never been a top 3 forward until the last 2 years(Ronaldo, Lewa, Suarez, Messi and Mbappe were all better). Ask anyone about Henry and they'll tell you it was with him or R9 during that 2001 to 2006 period.


pranav53465

And yet Benzema has a better minutes per G+A this season than Henry did in his best one. In fact, if you only count Henry's time at Arsenal (his best years), he has a minutes per G+A ratio of 90.9. Benzema's entire career's (including Lyon and initial years at Madrid), he has minutes per G+A of 92.9. At Madrid, that number goes down to 90.2. Benzema's entire career(significantly larger sample size) is comparable with Henry's best seasons lmao. Just because Henry could run faster and do some tricks doesn't make him the better striker. Nostalgia bias is unreal with you lot. He was great, but Benzema has surpassed him now. All the players you mentioned are better than Henry too, maybe Mbappe isn't yet, but he will be soon enough as well. That point, therefore, is irrelevant to this debate.


Competitive-Ad2006

Let me get this straight - You're fine with comparing footballers from different generations statistically? Haven't you noticed that less goals were scored generally back then for obvious reasons, e.g. the fact that there was no var or camera to detect off-the-ball fouls? You should judge Henry's quality by how he matched up against the beat strikers of his generation, like wise with Benzema. I'm telling you only Ronaldo could say "I'm better than that Henry guy" for 5 years, while Benzema has only really topped the goal scoring charts in Spain this season and the previous one. And if Lewa comes, that probably won't be happening again


pranav53465

Sure it can. Benzema has only 5 less goals than Lewa this season with a game in hand, and way more assists in a team that collectively creates *considerably* less chances than Bayern. Lewandowski joining Barca will only decrease his numbers, he's joining a way less dominant team than the one he'd be leaving. Benzema's numbers would only increase with the fullback reinforcements rumoured and Mbappe joining.


celigodtko

What makes Mane better option then Vinicious this season? I dont even get into the Benzema vs Mane thing because you would be a fool to say Mane would deserve it over Benz.


Competitive-Ad2006

>because you would be a fool to say Mane would deserve it over Benz. I once said that about Messi vs Ronaldo in 2016 and 2017, and Messi vs Modric in 2018. Madrid fans like you kept saying "but the trophies". So yes, if Mane ends up with 3 trophies and Benzema with one, then Mane absolutely deserves to be up there.


celigodtko

They changed it this season mate. Invidual performance will be the most important aspect instead of team achievement. If Mane has the same numbers as Benzema but More trophies Mane will be the favorite.


Competitive-Ad2006

Can you point me to the press release where the awarding body actually announced the change?


pranav53465

[Here you go, buddy](https://www.lequipe.fr/France-Football/Actualites/Ballon-d-or-quatre-changements-pour-l-histoire/1321452)


gallantmondukemon

There are people who honestly believe he has been the best footballer in the past months. I mean he is good and everything, but what Benzema does this season is out of this world.


TankyRo

Good thing the award is about the entire season and not the past months


Tej007Dav

Best part of the game is our fans chanting “you’re a first division team” as Levante fans cheer.


zinewire

Vallejo, Camavinga, Valverde, and Nacho have been really impressive these last few games. Brings me so much joy to see that.


Articlaus

First Hat-trick for my Boy Vini, hopefully first of many for us. Who would have thought he would have 21+ goals this season.


not_y0ur_business

Vallejo and Nacho was excellent in defense, didn’t matter that Lucas didn’t want to be in defense. Fede really wanted a goal tonight and we couldn’t give him one. Sad.


Yubs_D_Rsc

Modrić with 3 assists. :)


naruto2omer

Should've been four but Benzo showed us his dancing moves, just BDB Things


Homerwithnohumour

All praise to the attack but phenomenal performance from Vallejo and Camavinga.


Tej007Dav

Vallejo really a legend. It was all banter at first


kostajepaosmosta

Well, belive it or not Cardenas, Levantes GK deserved motm


Kurosawasuperfan

I was shocked with how bad their defense and midfield was. They looked so uninterested, even worse than a pre-season friendly.


MrVISKman

He would've been MotM is he had slapped some sense into his teammates. What an embarrassing performance and season from them


chak100

I was actually disappointed with them


EggplantBusiness

It a strange thing to say when you concede 6 but he was their best player. First time I almost feel bad about winning with a big margin


JaegarJaquez

Shout out to Camavinga and Vallejo for a flawless game


supplementarytables

I mean Camavinga got a yellow


lagrandesgracia

As is tradition


JaegarJaquez

Shhh


st_huck

Vallejo will never live up to his original promise after all the injuries, but I hope he can recover his career, be a good league defender. Garay is good example I hope.


lagrandesgracia

He can still be our next nacho. It'd be ok if it doesn't turn out that way. Kid could start in many other teams if he chooses so.


kostajepaosmosta

Camavingas was great overall but passing wasn't that good today but our midfield was made out of 4 engines


OfTimeAndMemory

Are you talking about Madrids passing or Camavingas? Cause he had a 92% complete passing rate.


L0nEspartan

he had 2 bad passes but when you are used to him not missing you get the feeling he had a bad match. The kroos effect lmao.


taZz727

This is actually wild now that you mention Toni. I'm so used to seeing his passing game be so top notch that whenever he misses a couple, my brain instantly goes, "that was a so-so game from Kroos" lol


chak100

Camavinga made some rookie mistakes, which is normal. I’m really excited with him


taZz727

Same. The way he's playing at his age is amazing. Especially how effective he is at recovering possession. I'm excited to see how he develops.


Vasea11

He just saw him missing that one obvious pass and went on with the idea that he had a bad passing game.Hate when people do that


kostajepaosmosta

Yea we are gonna ignore the 3 times he gave possession in our half. Dude I love camavinga but he didn't feel as concetrated as other games


Bonaque

Sounds very German to me


IMistahS

Absolute party. Feels like every real Madrid player managed to get a turn shooting the ball lol


robinho988

The bogey team for the big 3 is finally gone. Levante's keeper had 10 saves even though he conceded 6, mental.


ugotbaited

Imagine how much Vini, Rodrygo, Fede, Camavinga would cost if they weren't ours


murilorez

If Vince Smith, Roderick, Walgreen and Cam Aavin played in PL they'd cost 100M each.


secondworsthuman

> Walgreen Took me a solid minute


lagrandesgracia

Imagine if they were English and in small EPL team. Man u, city and Chelsea duking it out offering 100's of millions for each.


Kurosawasuperfan

I'll say again in this thread, Vinnie Smith would cost 200m, AT LEAST.


atropicalpenguin

Vinnie Smith is **#/PL PROVEN**


Traditional-Area-277

Is so true that it actually hurts


ioannsukhariev

if we were linked to them at least 100 million each.


Nfanella

Really funny to watch


JaegarJaquez

Hey you are not supposed to be here


Bonaque

It's /r/soccer, we welcome everyone with open arms except Qatar. All my homies hate Qatar.


JaegarJaquez

And the US.


chak100

And Saudi Arabia


MrVISKman

Could've easily been 15


dr_motaaa

Their goalkeeper was playing out of his mind


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