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lagrandesgracia

I wanted to see hazard play :(


hazzaan

He’s out for the rest of the season


ancara_messi

Useless cunts. The one time I wanted Real to win


gordito_gr

With many kisses from Madrid


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melorio

To be fair, barcelona rested before their 2nd leg against you


Demodonaestus

To be fair, we're no Barcelona.


Odd-Advertising-7563

Yeah you just get beat 4-0 by them


Demodonaestus

And?


Ga5huX

Haven't seen the game, how was Camavinga ?


EpiDeMic522

He's a player of moments. Some so sublime, you can hardly believe your eyes, especially given he's 19. Some so risky, that you clench so hard that your intestines poke through your nose. I'll give you an example. He has a habit of taking a heavy first touch. Ordinarily, a player would trap the ball and then change direction. He starts by sending the ball in said direction with that touch, completely taking by surprise any pressing opponent and thus, beating him. It's very effective. However, he also does this in our box. Yesterday, he started some great attacks through this. However, sometimes he's unable to have complete control of the ball because it is farther away from him. Once during the first half with us on an attacking transition and them counter-pressing, he did the same. But the ball rolled farther than he intended it to or perhaps he didn't anticipate Correa (IIRC, CMIIW) to be able to cut it or both. So as a responsible CDM having lost the ball in our box, he did what he must: charge towards it and lunge in with a sliding challenge. But, he got the ball and that was an excellent, excellent tackle. That's Cama in a nutshell.


Enartloc

Defensively great, offensively not so much, but that was the team as a whole. We really don't play anything up front when Benzema isn't playing.


RoadsterIsHere

Useless


ChillPalis

Savic needs his ass beat, I'm tired of not saying it.


ferkk

It was expected. In fact Atlético could have scored some more goals if they weren't so shit in fron of the goal. Madrid could have also scored something. Referee was pretty bad overall. Savic deserved a yellow card at the start of the game for that challenge against Nacho, especially when we later saw similar tackles getting yellow cards (Lucas Vázquez). Penalty was pretty soft, 'penaltito'. Cunha was already falling when Vallejo steps on him, so it was in fact an irrelevant contact, Atlético was lucky to get a penalty from this play. I think overall our players did a fine job, Vallejo was ok, Lunin made a couple of saves, you can't expect more from players who never play. Notable mentions in Asensio and Casemiro. Horrible game from the first one, who seems like he already checked out off the team knowing he'll be shipped to another team in summer, he just doesn't give a shit anymore. At this point it would be better if we just played Arribas or Peter from the academy team, at least they would try. Casemiro has to improve a lot. He's been average or below average during the entire season. He's too slow and still play like he thinks he's the only player in the field, he needs a whole minute to figure it out what to do with the ball every time he has it. I literally panic when he has the ball in his feet. I think we should do everything to get Tchouameni this summer.


Karyoga

Lost me when you said Casemiro needs to improve alot.


ferkk

He does. I'm not asking him to become Xavi on the ball but he needs more awareness and react quickly to what's happening around him. Keeping the ball and falling in order to get a foul doesn't always work.


hazzaan

I would understand some criticism against Case but not based on yesterdays game, I’ve never seen Case playing so happy. He looked like he was floating throughout the whole game, looking really comfortable playing higher up, driving the ball into half space. If he’s playing this version against Liverpool he’s pocketing the whole midfield.


dhiraramri

On the ball, yes he needs to improve a lot more but I doubt it'll happen at this stage of his career. He gets caught in possession so much


ColaKnut

ez clap


Zealousideal_Cut_183

Like winning laliga Oh wait


Ender_Knowss

Like winning the PL, oh wait.


Zealousideal_Cut_183

Like winning the UCL semis in 2019 oh wait


MelodicMachine1356

Atleast they gotta chance to win something this season


xXKonan

I know it's tough competing with Benzema, but it looks like Jovic just flat out stopped giving a shit about even challenging for a roster spot for Real at this point.


Kenshi121

Just like the current mingueza.


rm713

The guy plays with zero emotion


LilHalwaPoori

Well he wasn't supposed to be starting until like 15 minutes before the match started and Diaz picked up an injury during training..


EpiDeMic522

Not during training. He was carrying it, was cleared but felt discomfort before the start. At least that's what Ancelotti said.


HeadCrusher135

I'd rather we replace him with chicharito honestly.


lrzbca

How much would it cost for someone to sign Jovic ?


SpearofTrium05

I would guess 25-30M, probably the lower end.


pmmerandom

absolute legend


PickledCumSock

i dont watch la liga often and i thought he was just having a bad day. is he actually that bad?


Enartloc

He's absolutely useless as a 9 for us. Doesn't help that our 9 has to be very active and mobile since we don't play with an attacking central midfielder. You can see he has quality, but just not for us and not with our system. He needs to go play for a team who plays 2 strikers.


EpiDeMic522

Not a direct answer but I covered it in part [here with some illustrations from the game.](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/ul9gdv/-/i7uiq5e) He should really depart for his own sake IMO.


LatroDota

Short: Yes Long: he doesnt fit our style and at this point I think hes worse Icardi; I cant even say what his qualities are at this point, he dont press, he doesnt help with build up, his finishing aint that good, his headers arent as good as you could expect, he cant shield ball because his ball control seems bad. From what Ive seen I would say he was 1-2 season wonder and was bought because he was young striker that looked promising and Benzema was at 30 so we looked for someone new who would slowly become starter - he aint that guy. People tried to justify him by saying he didnt got enough time because of Benzema form but his loan at Eintracht just prove he stop giving a fuck, hes form seems off, hes doesnt seem to care at all, kinda like Bale. I hope he will leave at summer for anything above 30mln, dude is just taking spot in the squad, I prefer Mariano over him.


xXKonan

Real fans would give you a better answer but from what I've seen, he hasn't done anything to adapt to what Zidane and now Carlo wants. You would think training with Benzema he would pick up some of his traits and improve his overall game and help convince Zidane and Carlo he could be a good option. But considering he's rarely picked, and when he plays he looks like he just doesn't care about even trying to salvage a career there.


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So as a Real supporter Ill give my non biased insight on Jovic. Since the day he joined he has show no qualities of being a top star. He has had glimpses where you can see the potential but aside from that he has shown nothing at all. I wouldn't even be surprised if his market value is less than a mill. There are alot of supporters of his in the community so anyone who dares criticize him gets down voted to oblivion. Here is Essentially what Jovic does in a match: walks/jogs around the pitch for a bit. Then just stands next to/between the opposing center backs and hopes for a throughball or a ball over so he can counter. The thing is, he has no pace so even if he gets the most perfect throughball, his position and his lack of pace will completely ruin any chances. He does occasionally (and by that I mean once a game) drop back to receive the ball only to pass it back again. It helps alleviate some pressure off the midfield but nothing like what Benz does. His biggest weakness is his position awareness. He just sits there between defenders and waits for the ball. I know he is a poacher but come on. His moments of brilliance was his back heel pass to Case last season which looked amazing. Outside of that I can't say he has had much more to offer. Jovic is simply a formation player. He needs a second striker who does most of the work, and when they pass the ball to him he will score cause he does have a killer finish instinct. He has shown this in a couple of instances where he has managed to score some offside goals or hit the woodwork. He's definitely not a bad player but not a player who belongs at Real Madrid. At least Mariano (who potential wise doesn't even compare to Jovic) is better because he runs and presses. In a two striker system I think he can thrive.


scubatikk

I saw his killer finish instinct yesterday. And check all the games he played how many time was he in a clear chance and missed it. Ok Oblak saved it but honestly he couldve shot it better


HerakIinos

>He needs a second striker who does most of the work, and when they pass the ball to him he will score cause he does have a killer finish instinct. The curious thing is that when Jovic was at his best in Eintratch, he was the second striker. The 9, and main target was Sebastian Haller. Jovic was the more mobile of the two. But somehow in Madrid he just dont do anything. Dont play like a second striker but also doesnt show the hunger for a goal a 9 should have.


Digitalias

So like a less talented Icardi


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At current for Jovic makes Icardi look like the best player on the planet


reddit809

I've got mad respect for Carrasco. He's got a lot of heart tbh. I remember the final when Dani went out and he fucking skinned Danilo alive. It wss embarrassing to watch. Dude puts everything into each match and doesn't do it in a way you lose respect.


dakaiiser11

In the 16/17 season, Carrasco was playing his heart out when Real Madrid won 3-0 at the Vincente Calderon. He was very unlucky to not score at least one goal. I respect him as a player.


reddit809

For sure a worthy adversary.


Shills07

Same. Best player on the field sometimes for atleti. They don't put enough respect on his name


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pmmerandom

Flair up


cr7momo16

No injuries vamosss


BiscottiSilent9815

I'm still wondering who can score clean chance in the team expect Suarez. They either send it to space or clean it for goal kick


Adracath

No injuries, that's the most important thing. Hala Madrid, bar the UCL final


jamcarti

Simeone shaking Ancelottis hand is the guard of honor the media cried about so much 🤝


ChillPalis

That happened, wtf?


jamcarti

Yessir it did


ChillPalis

Wow. Yeah, Grim Reaper Simeone not doing the dash is genuinely worth more than any Guard of Honor Atletico can give Madrid. That's nice to hear :)


TeamShisui

No injuries is a win in my book


Tallboy47

Is it because you’re playing atletico, or because you have a CL final to win?


ROMSEL

Yes.


WWECreativegenius

Both lmao


zts105

Forza Liverpool


TheLimeyLemmon

Well this is a weird flair/comment combo but alright!


gnorrn

Enemy of my enemy is my friend.


reddit809

"Thibo CL champion with Madrid" not gonna be how you wanted it.


SpearofTrium05

Come on you Betis!


Shaojie_Zhang

92:48


Spillsthebeans

Juanfran


L0nEspartan

mate, just focus on your team if you dont want to face cr7 again next season.


prateek_tandon

They’re 6 points ahead of Betis….


L0nEspartan

sure, but they still have to play seville and real sociedad, they are close but not done.


EconOrCS-Msc

They did just fine vs Ronaldo this year


EpiDeMic522

His joke is about them dropping to Europa. Betis blew it really.


L0nEspartan

Yeah, but that wasnt the point haha, if cr7 stays on united he is not playing champions.


ReverieMetherlence

How was Lunin doing?


SpearofTrium05

One thing I noticed is he's very comfortable on the ball.


CrazyLarek

He made a couple good saves, didnt notice any errors from him


charefwail2

Pretty good actually


Practical_Success643

ok, I didn´ t watch the match or even heard about it but let me guess, Madrid came out without their good players and Atlético still kind of struggled to score 1 goal


TeamShisui

Atletico was good. I'd even say great but it's Madrid's almost B team, so I thought good would be fair. They missed chances too btw. It wasn't like they were struggling to create


Practical_Success643

ok, so it was a bit better than I expected it to be


slytherinRuler

most honest review


charefwail2

They scored from a bullshit penalty


3CreampiesA-Day

No, it was a clear penalty


BiscottiSilent9815

Many chances still can't score. Too many miss and post hitting


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Java_Beans

It was almost the B team playing, Atletico played at home with their A team as still didn't score, except for that penalty. I would say our second team did well.


khkothar

Great game by atletico.. score line doesn’t do justice to how well they played


Full_Metal93

We desperately need a striker


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Go build you defense first :P


jorsiem

...don't you have Carrasco, Griezmann, Joao, Correa, Cunha and Suárez?


3CreampiesA-Day

Literally one of them players is a striker and he’s in his 30’s and runs like he’s 50


luh_shmunky

ironic considering how many striker type of players you’ve signed and how few defenders


robinho988

I really wanted Jovic to finally get his form, but the man just looks off whenever he plays


SarcasticHumanAss

judge him by his 4th season


sonofsochi

He has so much promise just like that other kid….Theo Walcott?


chantlernz

Jesse Lingard


hrz12

All the B team replies coming when the only key player that hasnt played for Real was Benzema.


magic-water

Courtois, Carvajal, Alaba, Nacho as LB, no KCM on the same time on the field, Asensio playing 90 minutes.And most of all: Jovic actually playing 60 minutes.


hrz12

Well last night Real Madrid first team was worth 218m and Atleti's 135m


magic-water

Courtois, Carvajal, Alaba, Nacho as LB, no KCM on the same time on the field, Asensio playing 90 minutes.And most of all: Jovic actually playing 60 minutes. (I decided to just repeat my post because your reply obviously completely missed the point)


hrz12

Doesn't change the fact that even the tram without them starting has market value more than 50% bigger.


magic-water

> All the B team replies coming when the only key player that hasnt played for Real was Benzema. This was your post. It has nothing to with market values or anything. (Btw those are completely imaginary numbers anyway)


hrz12

Go touch same grass dude,like u are just waiting for me to comment.


snldzo7

I would be more worried about your teams inability to score from open play, against that make shift defense, instead of pretending we cared about anything from this game other than no injuries


BiscottiSilent9815

Nothing new then. We started score many goal cuz Suarez


TempestaEImpeto

Lunin, Vallejo, Jovic, Camavinga, Vazquez, Asensio are not starters. Be fair.


astral34

Asensio has started often in La Liga


magic-water

He is far from being amongst Madrid's best 11 players. Probably not even in the top 15


astral34

He’s the third best winger they have lol


king2pac

We only have 3 wingers dude. Bale and Hazard work in the hospitals. Carlo will rather play a midfielder, Valverde on the wings over Asensio


IzzyBP

I mean that's not really hard considering there's 5 wingers and 2 of them are barely football players.


astral34

Absolutely but it’s not like Asensio (cama and Vasquez) belong in the same category as Vallejo, alunni and Jovic. Formers are much more used


magic-water

Considering that Valverde has been starting as RW in the most important games I highly doubt that. And again: He is not amongst Madrid's best 11 players, and probably not even top 15.


snldzo7

We desperately need a backup striker, where and who, I have no clue, but Jovic and Mariano are not it


Marco-Green

We got so many wasted spots smh Imagine Jovic, Bale and Hazard performing remotely close to what you should expect from them. This team would be scary.


snldzo7

I have hope for hazard, cause A I’m dumb, B I never learn, and C because he feels like he wants to be part of the team. Jovic and Bale I have fully given up on them, we are luckily heading towards a clear out and few under performers should be canned


d4videnk0

You can always call Mayoral back, isn't he permanently on loan somewhere?


MadRashed

It's probably going to be Mayoral


Enartloc

If the turtle comes that's enough cuz he can play striker in case Benzema is out.


ancara_messi

Lmao Mbappe isn't a sub player wtf I have no clue how Madrid are gonna satisfy Vini, Mbappe, Benzema and Rodrygo. Also hazard but ig he's given up


Enartloc

What part of "in case Benzema is out" don't you get ? He can play striker and someone else can play on the wing. Currently we have no such player.


ancara_messi

By "in case Benzema is out" did you mean out injured or out of the club? I assumed injured and then didn't you imply Mbappe be a sub?


Enartloc

injured/suspended, etc "sub" means substitute, not necessarily bench player


HerakIinos

Honestly, I think Raul de Tomas would be a decent backup striker for Madrid. Could be kind of a Nacho, Lucas vasques type of player but as a 9.


TimTkt

Mbappe can play striker also


shaokim

deep bench


Fr0ufrou

I think Mariano deserves a real shot honestly.


EpiDeMic522

This is the time when I really need to see a flair.


Fr0ufrou

Haha maybe I could go with Lyon


BlackRebel93

Bale


ayamyam

Ronaldo to come back 🤞


CanadianMerengue

Ronaldo 👀


MelodicMachine1356

We got scammed with Jovic and the Bundesliga tax


schaefer97

He looked just as shit during his loan back at Frankfurt. Still believe that he can have a decent career but Real is obviously no fit.


KazamaKiryuu

Europa League tax too I guess


EmSoLow

Wait till you see what Reinier offers


Flovati

Wait, has Reinier been playing as a striker for you guys? Because he was a attacking midfielder with us. His first years in Europe have certainly been weird, when he left Brazil his numbers number not only were better than Rodrygo's, but they were also better than Vini's. Yet, he can't leave your bench, unlike Vini who has basically been a starter since his first season (but let's be honest that Vini is an exception, we can't expect this from most 18 years old) or Rodrygo who made impact coming from the bench in many matches.


EmSoLow

He's been played on the wing and that is out of necessity because all our wide players have been injured somehow and Reinier is hardly going to play ahead of Reus/Brandt. Our new boy Jamie Bynoe Gittens in one appearance against Bochum has left a better impression than Reinier and the initial comment was mostly a jab about the bundesliga tax. Reinier might prove me wrong and serve as a decent squad player for Madrid or be a decent player for a midtable Spanish league but his time at Dortmund (and lack of it) tells me that either his attitude in training is shit or he is simply not good


MelodicMachine1356

I thought he was gonna be a kaka regen smh


luh_shmunky

has he ever started a match in germany? what is he doing in training lmao


MelodicMachine1356

I think he started against Bayern becuz of injuries tho


bolacha_de_polvilho

On paper Real Madrid's B team doesn't look that bad but dear lord on the pitch it's completely dysfunctional, could barely get out of their own half. Fingers will be pointed at players but honestly Carlo should get a good portion of the blame imo, other teams don't look this lost when they have to rotate heavily


MaTrIx4057

Its because Carlo never rotates. Our B team is not used to play with each other. You can't click suddenly when playing first time with whole new setup.


tebby101

I knew people were going to overreact to this match. We played 2 heavy physical matches against Chelsea. And then 2 physical matches against City, including 120 mins just a few days ago. Oh and in between we managed to win a La Liga despite having several tough games between the UCL ties. We coasted today. With a dysfunctional lineup, and a team that had most of the week off (they only trained yesterday). I doubt we spent much time doing the regular in depth prep work we do for every team. So who cares man, it was a game to enjoy the vibes. Nothing more.


EpiDeMic522

That was [solely on Jovic and Asensio IMO.](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/ul9gdv/-/i7uiq5e)


ChillPalis

I was in-between matches, and from what I saw today, Asensio was such a non-presence upfront that I swore you guys were playing a 4-4-2.


From-UoM

Madrid's B team held of City for 20 minutes This match was very pointless. No desire to win


ProximoDragon

I know half of Madrid's fans aren't Spanish, but I'd be pissed if my team gave up on a derby just because they wanna rest for a game 20 days away.


Articlaus

I ain't mad, it was a well deserved Vibing game. Who cares. i am just happy our players are resting after giving their heart out just few days ago.


From-UoM

I promise you, no real Madrid fans anywhere is mad. They aren't resting for a game 20 days from now. They got rested from a match they played a few days ago. The team also just trained yesterday. After that amazing comeback they deserved some slack.


ProximoDragon

Okay, and they lost to a team with donkeys for strikers so I guess it all works out for everyone.


snldzo7

I guarantee it if Carlo didn’t rotate half the squad peoole will be 10 times more pissed off.


astral34

I think they were resting from Wednesday game not for the CL final. I would be pissed too but you can still banter them for it


rednades

It’s not just rest.. an important player can get injured and be out for such an important game


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govind01sharma

You're literally bitching about a guy celebrating his team's win. Grow up.


Fly1ngsauc3r

>Man celebrates a win against their local rivals


hrz12

To this day I think that saying shit like this is the biggest cancer you can read from football fans. Simeone just won one of the 2 biggest derbies in Spain and whats even more important,greatly increased chances for qualifying to UCL.


LampseederBroDude51

He won against a rival, of course he would celebrate


ProximoDragon

Considering his professional (horrible season) and personal life (father died) have been in pretty serious strain for the past month, I'm sure winning meant more because of the reprieve of pressure than it did the pure football aspect.


edwinx1903

Good burn, dude. You tell’em how, when and what to celebrate.


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Cafris

Fans being salty over other teams celebrating will always be funny to me


EstablishmentAny5550

Needing a soft penalty to win against this Real Madrid 'B' team just shows how shit Atletico is lol.


lagrandesgracia

I'd very much rather say that it shows how great our B team is.


N0gr4v17y

They had some great chances. It wasn't like the penalty was the only thing that happened infront of Lunin.


Cafris

It mostly just shows how shit your bench players are, our team is so bad I expect to drop points to relegation fodder.


Rollolothbrok96

Our bench players were the reason we won against city. What are you on


RoadsterIsHere

We've sucked a lot harder against teams much worse. I think you overestimate how much Atleti fans expect from this team, the fact that we didn't get our ass handed yet is a W in itself lmao.


hrz12

We haven't scored from open play in 6 games,we know we're shit buddy


chak100

I was impressed on how many wasted opportunities you had


simomii

Grizemann hasn't scored a league goal since November


Okiro_Benihime

I mean... didn't he spend 2 months injured or something like that?


MaTrIx4057

Its been 6 months since November..


luh_shmunky

at least he’s influential in the games


Evergreenwood

Worse than Rashford…and that’s really saying something (Worse goals tally, overall play better)


EstablishmentAny5550

Thanks for the training session Atletico


_faraleth_

thanks for helping us grab 3 points in these needy times and ensuring we dont sell Oblak/Felix/Llorente at summer due to missing out top4. good guy Real helps his besties 🫶


el_scorcho07

i think this is a deserved win for us. our finishing is so bad and man, even though i strongly dislike Madrid, i can’t deny that with their starters in they really showed why they are the champions of Spain and are in the CL final.


RoadsterIsHere

I think Modric was really weaving and stuff, but none of their starters really had standout performances. I'd even say Vinicius was kinda just out and about.


ManuMora98

Welp, we lose, but we didn't get injuries and Karim didn't play. It's obvious that we don't care much about the remaining league matches, with this said, Jovic and Asensio should go out of this club the second the transfer market opens


FlacidBurny

I also have a dream of the day kroos leaves our club he doesn’t offer much and starts every major game we have.


EpiDeMic522

[Cost us the entire first half today IMO.](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/ul9gdv/-/i7uiq5e) I can't claim to know what's actually in his head and perhaps I'm wrong but Jovic just doesn't seem to have any drive whatsoever.


der_Globetrotter

Kondogbia was everywhere


MadRashed

he was amazing, Atletico fans will know more, but he's been class every time I watch him with them


boringmemphis

Real Madrid's elite mentality making Atletico miss all the sitters they created.


Visual-Situation-346

lol


alien_degenerate

What's up the Simeone's celebration? Would've thought he was 2 seconds away from winning the league if I didn't know any better


Full_Metal93

Cuz he’s still fighting for a spot in next years UCL, the 3 points were important.