By - 2soccer2bot
Remember when people used to make fun of Xavi calling him a pretentious Cruyffian who won't suceed as a coach.
Who invited Ramos 😹 he was shit in that world cup. looked so out of place, didn’t have the technical ability of the other spanish players so he just went around fouling people
He was literally the highest rated player of the tournament
Still better than Van Persie, Messi and Ronaldo's performances tbf.
no no no
Kulusevski is better than them all 👍
Big game against Dorking who are sitting second in the league. A win for Ebbsfleet could provide a bit more security to cement a play off place, and could see the team move into third if Dartford fail to win their next match. The team needs to build momentum again for promotion and then actually climb in the National League. For so many years the team has been just outside of reaching League 2. Even that move could be good for the town in general.
Based Vélodrome booing Rabiot last night.
Some Messi fans saying he's not scoring goals for PSG because he does not care about club football anymore is too hilarious 😭😭
Ngl bro inner me would love Messi to start banging them in left right and centre and be the best again but I can't stand his fanboys, they even live rent free in my head the morons, so I would prefer him to drop disasterclass after disasterclass. They would still defend him using xSHIT if he starts dropping a turd on the field every game and that's the only thing he does the entire 90. Sorry in advance for my terrible comedic skills.
Lmfao same! I want him to do good but his fanboys are so annoying. "Messi deserves 8th ballon d'or because he got most xPepsiAds this season"
I know it was Venezuela but it’s actually hilarious how well Messi played last night. I can just imagine Leonardo and Nasser watching him absolutely fuming
Not just Messi Paredes, Neymar and Di Maria also played well. The it's Venezuela argument doesn't make sense because they weren't playing this well against lower table French teams either. I'm convinced PSG having a toxic culture is the reason for all these underwhelming performances from their players.
Yeah true, I can fully believe that tbh. They look like different players
Lower league french teams are definitely better than Venezuela though (no disrespect)
Happy non-league day to my local supporters
International rivalries: what fans think and what actually is.
Germany vs ~~Italy~~ Netherlands
Italy vs ~~Germany~~ France
England vs ~~Germany~~ Scotland
Is Germany netherlands one sided? Like do the dutch hate Germany a lot more?
Can't wait to see how england performs against a rejuvenated Germany if they play them in the world cup.
Xavi has somewhat restored Barcelona's conpetetive edge they are now actually performing well in big matches.
4 goals against Atletico, Napoli and Real Madrid
To be fair both us and Real was far from in good form when playing against Barca. Probably Barca would still take the win, but the difference won't be this huge.
Atletico weren't in good form but real were definitely in good form. Comeback vs PSG, crushing Mallorca away
Madrid were lacking both Benzema and Mendy. Essentially their keystones in offense and defense.
Playing without Benzema is already a big difference. Vinicius looks headless without him, especially.
I think it’s more than somewhat looking at the results. They have run riot over some big teams. If this pattern continues and they continue to grow and grow Xavi will lead Barcelona to great glory.
I really hope it doesn’t continue as their very short recent banter era was fun to witness haha
Brisbane Roar have conceded 4 goals from their last 2 shots on target conceded.
Own goals I would assume.
It's crazy how in football you can quickly go from absolute superstar to someone almost forgotten and mostly used as a joke subject in a matter of year or so.
Hazard went from being on top to being a laughing stock in a matter of year or two, Bale similar, I still remember Ronaldinho being the best and most wonderful thing to watch in football and just from nowhere he went from that to almost being irrelevant football-wise, no need to even mention someone like Torres etc...
It's way of sports, but it's still crazy to me how fast things can change. In other areas of famous people there's less of a quick downfall. If a really great actor makes stinkers of movies 2 years in a row people disregard it and just remember the best ones.
Anyways, I'm a bit tired and too long awake so I'm just going on a cringy rant here probably.
Could argue it's a volume thing, and the reactive nature of fandom/discourse in football. One film in an actor's career is one match in a footballer's, in terms of evidence of performance. Actors put out a few films a year on average, as opposed to 50 or so matches each year for a footballer. Takes a lot longer for opinions to form when you have less data to go off of.
True, I mean people follow footballers on a weekly basis, whereas actors they watch some hyped movie of their usually then forget until there's next one. When there's a complete stinker unless it was high budget hyped movie they usually don't even notice it unless they're huge fans of that person and religiously follow their full career for some reason.
But still, it's crazy how short term things are in sports, especially ones like football, one week after a great performance you're being called an underrated genius, and next week after a bad performance you're being called an overrated backpass merchant or something. And that's just for few weeks, now when it's a matter of months when there's a string of few injuries and a bad form makes you very quickly a laughing stock and a bit forgotten.
Get the motivation burning for 10+ years is really difficult thing and not just in sports.
[Clubs carefully making the worst possible badge to replace perfectly fine ones](https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?siteId=7575&v=2&jpgQuality=100&width=700&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F002%2F235%2F146%2F53a.gif)
Seems like a lot of clubs now are less interested in aging players (even world class ones), especially the clubs that are rebuilding.
Do you think it has something to do with modern football styles of play/ tactics. Maybe managers want younger and fitter players with higher work rates?
Player power has reduced and the power of coaches has increased with the rise of evolving tactical metagame taking over. Very rarely you see absolute carryjobs nowadays and it is coaches who are now dominating whether a team wins or not.
Teams are realising that the so called large teams aren't invincible when you have a proper system in place, and hence you have more investment in youth. As detestable as RB clubs are, their meteoric rise coupled with the fall of historic clubs like Schalke, Deportivo and until now, Milan has only increased the perception further that you have to invest in youth more to succeed.
Clubs are waking up to the fact that it's not worth it to splurge money on older players. That's it I think.
Except Man Utd and PSG haha
Agree on the latter aspect playing a part. Also money - can probably get better bargains with younger players without as big reputations, and then there's the investment potential. Little ROI on an aging superstar, but with the way football inflation is going a promising youngster now could be worth 5x what you paid for them in 5 years
kinda wish Bale would spend a season with Cardiff in the Championship before finally retiring
How much impact do you think his quality alone would have? Would it elevate Cardiff to promotion contention? They are pretty shit... and I think we often underestimate how much of a team sport football is, and hence individuals often don't have as much impact as we think.
Cardiff are sat in 17th right now, but that’s because they had a really shit manager at the start of the season, and are doing better now.
If Gareth Bale can stay fit for most of the season (and that’s a big IF), then I think they’d finish top half at least, but one man can’t lift such a shite squad to play-offs.
Anybody recognises where is this from? Looks like football, but cannot be too sure
A bit of reverse Google Image searching tells me the club is Paysandu, and the trophy appears to be from an edition of the Copa Verde tournament
Ayee thanks. I should try to be a little less lazy
Found the same. Also found this [article](https://www.bvrio.com/es/plataforma/plataforma/noticias.do?tag=bioeconomy) which shows a similar designed trophy for the same competition. Looks like they were trialling wooden trophies
[This has to stop](https://i.imgur.com/4lDGbAs.jpg)
The DDT is essentially just a group of people wasting time, like most of Reddit
It's surprising that no sportswashers have bought Arsenal. The propaganda their fans could wage would build the foundation for global political and economic dominance
And I thought Chelsea fans getting Jorginho to third in the Ballon d'Or was impressive...
After the same amount of time Klopp had Liverpool in a CL final
He had had us in 3 cup finals by then also we just never won any of them.
There’s a few Brazilian state championship semi finals today to feed your footy addiction. Also the Gaúcho state final between Grêmio and Ypiranga is today too
um wtf happened to Internacional. why are they not in the state final, that’s like super rare right?
Grêmio beat them in the semis
Saturdays in the middle of international breaks are the worst.
It is Non-League Day, though!
Who cares about showing up vs Nantes, Nice and Real Madrid when you can just score one goal vs almighty Venezuela.
Not sure if anyone has the answer to this because I've been looking it up for about 15 minutes and can't seem to find a definitive answer. Essentially I'm wondering how the world cup draw works. I know that there are 4 pots of 8 teams based on coefficient. But now that Italy are eliminated and they are currently 6th I assume that means everyone above them is bumped up a spot? Also since the 10th ranked Netherlands and 9th ranked Denmark play today and currently the Netherlands is less than one rank point below Denmark, meaning that if the Netherlands beats Denmark could they jump them for a spot in pot 1? Or even if the Netherlands finishes ranked 9th before the draw (which is 8th of teams qualified and Portugal because Italy is eliminated)would they not get put into the first pot because Qatar gets an automatic first pot position?
The teams in positions 1-8 on April 1st (minus Italy ofc) will be pot 1, alongside Qatar. So the team in 9th will not be in pot 1 unless N.Macedonia qualifies.
Thanks for the answer mate, that’s what I was thinking but the system seems so convoluted at times. Would be huge for the Dutch or Danes if they could squeeze themselves into pot 1, would just make the tournament a lot easier.
Kane was a late bloomer in the sense that his development from world class talent to world class player was about 2 months long rather than the 4-5 years it usually takes, but all things he broke through pretty early. 21 goals at 21, golden boot at 22, can't think of many other players who were that accomplished before 23.
He was a late bloomer in the sense of going from just another youth team player to all the sudden being ‘hey this guy is better than we thought’ to being ‘let’s take the risk and make him our 1st choice striker’.
Guys like Tom Carroll were rated higher than he was. It’s super rare for someone to have already been at a pretty big club, and to reach the heights Kane has reached without being tipped to to come anywhere close to those heights by the time you’re 19/20.
Michael Owen won the Ballon d'Or at the age of 21
Can think of Ronaldo 08 (22/23) and Lukaku 17 at Everton (26 goals at Everton at the age of 23)
Messi was 24 when he scored 50 in the league.
didn't call him a late bloomer, was talking about the scoring achievements the OP was referencing.
Just a misinterpretation.
Yeah, my bad. I'll delete that.
no probs tbf OP starts of with late bloomer sentence, easy to misinterpret
Did anyone in your fanbase think he was a world class talent pre-2014? I remember him just coming out of nowhere and shocking everyone
His loan spells had been pretty disappointing, which I think had diminished much hype
I can't wait for when Messi and Ronaldo retire, they're both shite and Jonny Howson is clear.
Being on Twitter and @MundoAlbicelest has made me realize how big the Argentina national team truly is. There are probably more fans of Argentina in say India or Bangladesh than there are in Argentina itself. And this before Lionel Messi. People waking up at 5:00 am to watch.
I'm an Indian- there are plenty of people who just watch Argentina for Messi.
But actually, it's been a thing for years and years. Before Messi played, lots of Indians watched Argentina for Maradona. People were obsessed with him, as another user said, Kerala is one particular state where the football craze is on another level.
I saw a Maradona statue in India, it was literally huge. So yes, we do have a lot of Argentina fans. But football in general isn't that much popular, so it's probably less than the number of Argentinians.
Maradona is a literal god in Kerala.
Glad to see Messi doing well but I don't get the Barca fans who want him back. Getting him will again mess with the wage structure and although it might improve the team temporarily, it's definitely a regressive step in the rebuild process.
Don't go back to your ex. Given the current context, Messi going back to Barcelona would very likely only end in disappointment, and risk (very very slightly) diminishing his legacy in the eyes of some
Better to go out as he did, than to return, not meet the hype, and things end on a less favourable note
By doing well do you mean scoring vs Venezuela and disappearing in big matches with PSG?
He's playing deeper for psg. Obviously his finishing has deteriorated drastically but I think he could still statpad like Ronaldo if he had played further up on the pitch. That's one of the reasons I don't want him back at barca. He'll come handy in breaking buses but it just wouldn't work against big teams.
How’s Ronaldo statpadding? He has the most match winning goals this season…
Don’t think he would fit w them rn anyway
Yea no way. The style is super high intensity press under Xavi, no one is walking.
Lewandowski to Barca. What do you think?
No. Barca needs younger players. The only older player who should be considered is Messi on reduced wages.
Lethal finisher with an immaculate injury record, will be world class for 4 seasons?
I don't know. Only one injury at this age could be lethal for his career. Also, he has played in Bundesliga his entire professional career. There might be a transition period to get adjusted to a more defensive league as well. Wage might be an issue as well.
Auba is smashing it in la liga.. lewa would steamroll it
He might, not denying it. But it also takes time to get adjusted to a new league and team. Also, a number of Bundesliga players have failed to replicate same sort of performance in other leagues.
Auba also steamrolled in both Bundesliga and EPL.
We're talking about Lewandowski mate not Lukaku
[The state of Italian "food"](https://twitter.com/FootyScran/status/1507341033474084889)
I can’t imagine getting a hot dog in italy
First they embarrass their footballing heritage by failing yet again to qualify for a World Cup, then they embarrass their culinary heritage with this
Before you know it they'll be painting over the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel
Rule no.1 about Italian stadia, buy your food in one of the food stands outside of the stadium, not inside. Rule no. 2, don't buy a hot dog.
looks better than 90% of british food ngl
That looks like English food.
Lol son what the fuck
I mean, isn't hotdog American? Why would one eat that in Italy
ur hardly going to eat Caprese Salad at the footy mate
A slice of pizza or calzone would work though
You absolutely can, though. I wonder what sort of fan skips over the multitude of pizza and pasta options in San Siro for that bastardised hotdog.
One who wants to post it on footy scran I assume.
Were comments in the past few hours a result of yank hours or just the regular old player stans?
50,000 fans at the Estádio do Dragão chant Cristiano Ronaldo's name https://twitter.com/TimelineCR7/status/1507538467953254402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1507538467953254402%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fcporto.ws%2Fforum%2Fthreads%2Fcris-tiano-ronaldo-wtf.24877%2Fpage-17
need to nuke Porto
Goosebumps. God I hope he scores a winner on Tuesday
What in your opinion are the 5 greatest individual seasons in Premier League history?
Not Henry 02/03 that’s for sure.
Arsenal lost the league by not winning any of our big away games. We lost timidly at OT and drew at Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool. We lost at Everton and drew with top four Newcastle and Bolton ( and more) Those teams away were always Henry’s Achilles heel he managed something like seven goals in total at those grounds over eight seasons…
02/03 he scored two goals away against top half sides Newcastle and tenth placed City.
One of the all time great seasons in league history cannot include a player who underperformed in the difficult away game we played that year. Two goals away to top half sides is really poor for a KING having a GOAT season.
Paulo Dybala 22/23 up there
Who do you think he's going to join?
Ally Sissokho 13/14
Drogba 09/10 Hazard 17/18 is definitely in the top 5 imo.
I assume you mean 18/19.
hazard 17/18 deffo his best ever season
I don't think you can put either of those guys ahead of 03 Henry, 08 Ronaldo, 14 Suarez, 12 Van Persie, or 98 Bergkamp. Or likely Salah this year
96 Bergkamp? His first year 95/96? Or 96/97 he was great in both but personally I think he best year with us was 97/98 when we won the double he was levels above anything I’d seen in an Arsenal shirt that year.
Yeah my bad, I meant '98. That was also the year he won PFA Player of the Year.
Drogba 29 goals and 10 assists in 33 games with spectacular all around play?
Hazard like one of the only players to get 15+ goals and 15+ assists in the PL in that decade?
Both remarkable seasons. Chelsea won the PL in Drogba's, definitely taking that over 12 RVP for instance.
Not sure how you can have van persie 1.05 G/A 11/12 season and miss out Drogba 1.27 G/A per 90 in 09/10 when Chelsea broke the scoring record and won a domestic double. That rate is only bettered by Salah and Suarez at 1.31 both
He had one of the best individual seasons in premier league history with 29 goals and 10 assists in 32 appearances.
We scored 74 goals in 2012. Robin scored or assisted on 39 of those, so 52%. Drogba scored or assisted on 39 out of 103 goals Chelsea scored, so 37%.
Drogba was surrounded by talented attackers who all had great seasons: Ballack, Kalou, Malouda, Anelka and another offensive megastar in Lampard. All of them had nice numbers because Chelsea was running riot and whacking bad teams 7-0 and 8-0.
Meanwhile RvP was playing with Gervinho and Walcott on either side of him, and an aging Rosicky as the main creator. His goals meant a lot more and were more important as he was scoring off of fewer chances created.
3 of the games Drogba missed, Chelsea won 7-2, 7-1 and 5-0 (Lampard scored 4 in the 7-1). Van Persie didn't miss a single game and if he did we'd have been completely hopeless without him.
It's not an argument in my book: as much as I dislike the way he left, RvP was better.
How many of those goals were penalties as Drogba didn’t take a single one, I think you’re very biased here.
> It’s not an argument in my book: as much as I dislike the way he left, RvP was better.
You're right as Lampard took them. I have to say drogba took one on the final match of the season when they wolloped wigan haha, but your point still stands!
Incredibly biased take.
>We scored 74 goals in 2012. Robin scored or assisted on 39 of those, so 52%. Drogba scored or assisted on 39 out of 103 goals Chelsea scored, so 37%.
Suarez was around 42% and Ronaldo and drogba were both around 37%
>Drogba was surrounded by talented attackers who all had great seasons: Ballack, Kalou, Malouda, Anelka and another offensive megastar in Lampard. All of them had nice numbers because Chelsea was running riot and whacking bad teams 7-0 and 8-0.Meanwhile RvP was playing with Gervinho and Walcott on either side of him, and an aging Rosicky as the main creator. His goals meant a lot more and were more important as he was scoring off of fewer chances created.
Good point, but then you could argue that he was Arsenal's main outlet and most chances were falling to him as the stand out player?
Also how does other players having nice numbers diminish Drogbas performance that season? Is this an achievement/performance question or an importance to team question?
He scored important goals for chelsea that helped see them over the line against man utd to the title (1 pt gap, he scored the important goal to beat utd at old trafford) He also scored in the fa cup final to win them the double. Both were important to chelsea's double. But it looks like from an importance point of view you are only valuing % of goal contributions and not important goals to win trophies!
But I guess if you ask the question then you can make up the criteria too!
So then hazard 2018/19 is the same as this RVP season then.
17/18 hazard was insane though. 50%+ goal contributions for the team. Literally carried the entire team to top 4 and also the one who starts the attack too. Zero help in offense. Topped it off with motm performance in EL final too.
That was 18/19 you mean, Hazard was average in 17/18, didnt even get top 4
I mean Hazard was really good in 17/18 but yeah not his best season and not a contender for one of the best season's a player has had in the PL.
Yeha fuck it was Sarris season
Rapid fire thoughts: Henry 02/03, Ronaldo 07/08, Lampard 09/10, Suarez 13/14, Salah 17/18
Never forget that the PFA somehow conspired to not vote Lampard into the TOTY for 2009/10
Proof footballers shouldn't be allowed to vote
I'd definitely have Henry, Ronaldo and Suarez in there for those seasons. 2022 Salah would probably fit in too once this is done. 2012 Van Persie and 1996 Bergkamp in the mix too.
I respect Lampard's achievements but I think he's a notch below these guys.
I agree the top 3 are Henry, Ronaldo and Suarez though, unless Suarez breaks in this season.
1. Kulusevski 22/23 👍👍
Which of these matchups would you most want in the 2022 WC Final (regardless of the outcome):
- Argentina v. Portugal
- USA v. Mexico
- Brazil v. Germany
The Brazil vs Germany revenge narrative would be great
Argentina vs Portugal would be horrendous as it would be a Messi vs Ronaldo shitfest, which is already one of the worst things about football discussion over the past 15 years
USA vs Mexico would be the worst because for it to happen there must have been a nuclear war in Europe which led to every UEFA nation withdrawing from the tournament, and god knows what must have befallen the South American nations and the African teams who qualified
Why would i want USA vs Mexico?
is it a rivalry that i don't know of?
The big 2: Brazil v Germany.
Argentina vs Portugal
Brazil v Germany would probably be the best in terms of quality but Argentina v Portugal would absolutely insane and something I NEED to see so that
Brazil vs Germany for King Kais legacy
Seeing Pulisic score in a WC final > seeing the birth of my first child
Argentina vs Portugal would crash this subreddit. I’m all for it.
Argentina v. Portugal. One last show down
Argentina vs. North Macedonia. Who says no?
USA vs Mexico
Brazil vs Germany
Brazil Vs Germany
Brazil v Germany definitely, none of that goat shit
Dammit Messi stans on twitter resurrected from grave onc again.
Might be time to mute words like Messi and ROnaldo on twitter, the amount of nonsensical takes from their stans have no limits. Horrible people these fans.
As a Messi stan I'd like say that what is dead may never die
Are you 12?
Fucking hell, how did you not cringe when saying that
Not even the actors want to associate to that show
Show? What show? I took this from a great book series called a song of ice and fire. My favourite fantasy series ever
Gareth Bale's injury and his issues with coach are two things for his overall decline from the game.
But I fully believe he was harassed by media and the latest one from Marca really says it.
Foreigners have never had it easy in Madrid.
Hell no. Any player that does not care about the team will get criticized, regardless of their country.
Media is not harassing him, they are criticizing him for what he's deserved the criticism.
Do Mourinho stans belong in the hall of shame?
I would say yes, 100%, without a shadow of a doubt.
Their revisionist history is truly the worst, and I fucking love Jose myself.
Will definitely win Ballon dOr just based on this single match. Big matches in UCL and Ligue 1 are overrated anyways.
Literally scored a tap-in.
Yeah those damn seasonal workers who play in the MLS, Ligue 1, and LaLiga
Columbus Crew beats PSG 8 times out of 10
😱😱mesi scored against vuvuzela omg😱😱
Wavin' flag is the greatest song of all time.
I miss Diego Forlan. He is the man who made me love football.
Madness that 2010 had two of the greatest ever World Cup songs, and most other tournaments have only one shit song
United cult hero forever :)
So happy for him that he went to become the player that people remember him now, even though it was after leaving United.
based on the **very** few games I've watched, this is how I would rank the teams that have qualified in WC
Tier 1 : France, Spain, England
Tier 2: Denmark, Brazil, Argentina
Tier 3: Netherlands, Belgium
Tier 4: Switzerland, Croatia, Germany
I think you need a good night's sleep and then to re-assess your choices.
How is Argentina and Brazil on the same level as Denmark and below England? Germany should not be that low either.
Having Germany that low is outrageous. Never rule out the Germans.
Brazil and Argentina are clear of Denmark and England