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Zayo_

Weird because he's with the squad in Saudi


lurker8708

He only got the first dose three days ago (presumably to go to Saudi Arabia). He won't be fully vaccinated in time to enter Ecuador.


Eibermann

Not weird bc saudi ofc will bend rules to let copa go on without problems


RoadsterIsHere

He got vaccinated a few days ago, but won’t get the second dose in-time for national team duty


m07815

He is vaccinated but too late


MorgenMariamne

If he miss on the World Cup squad because of this the dude is going to even sign up to be a test subject in the future.


NaughtyDreadz

Hein?


RoadsterIsHere

He got the first dose, but won’t have the second dose in-time


augustocdias

Even though. He’s a bit late, don’t you think? People are getting their 3rd shot already and he doesn’t even had his 2nd.


RoadsterIsHere

Yeah, but he won’t miss the World Cup


augustocdias

Maybe. He opened the spot for competition… well… better late than never anyways. I don’t care for his reasons either.


idkwhatnametopick7

Damn hes gonna get alot of shit now


Kurosawasuperfan

Tite just added that Lodi actually did get vaccinated, but only in January 10th. So he wouldn't make it in time with 2 doses.


Rojiblanc040

If only people read more than the title.


ConfusedAlgernon

Why would I go out of my way to add more information and context to something when I could just be angry for no real reason.


rScoobySkreep

He’s still an idiot lmao


PuppyPenetrator

Surely some of the fault lies on the poor title though, we know not everyone will read the full thing


ichand

Right call. Good one Tite.


gonnj

I tought he wasnt getting called for the NT because of his mistake against Argentina. This is even worse Good job on Tite for exposing someone who refuses to get vaccinated.


Kurosawasuperfan

Tite said that he just got vaccinated a few days ago (won't make it until the matches, tho). Better late than never. Better get vaccinated for his personal gains than not vaccinated at all.


Tony_Montana060

Ahh yes we’ve coerced yet another person into a medical decision, let’s celebrate


GMBethernal

Yes.


AssFingerFuck3000

One less plague rat in the wild, that's a positive for everyone even for fucking idiots like you, ironically


blablaXP

in one thread you read about how terrible google etc. are for gathering private data and how that has terrible consequences if this data becomes public. Next thread you got people saying good job for exposing medical records and conditions of footballers. This should not be disclosed to the public under any circumstances, and without consent is forbidden in many countries.


Fati25

"medical records" Whether you are or are not vaccinated is nothing private, anybody who isn't vaccinated is a moron and deserves to be publicly named.


blablaXP

it is necessary where it's relevant, e.g. job. You don't want your medical records to be made public, disregarding the actual medical condition we're talking about. If you think this is not a medical record, then you're factually wrong. Nothing to be debated here


EnanoMaldito

> Whether you are or are not vaccinated is nothing private it is, and it is 100% a medical record. You can't go and check publicly if I'm vaccinated against idk... rabies or whatever. I am 100% pro vaccines, but no need to lie just to prove a point, vaccination status is part of your medical record and SHOULD stay private unless a relevant situation comes up where it's asked.


raggata

Why? Men under 40 are at greater risk of myocarditis from the vaccines than the virus. It makes sense for young and healthy people to wait and see until we know more about potential side effects in my opinion. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0 The state of r/soccer when you get downvoted for posting the results from a study published in Nature...


FuujinSama

Did you read your the source you cited? > Whilst myocarditis can be life-threatening, most vaccine-associated myocarditis events have been mild and self-limiting22. The risk observed here is small and confined to the 7-day period following vaccination, whereas the lifetime risk of morbidity and mortality following SARS-CoV-2 infection is substantial. It literally says the exact opposite of what you’re saying.


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GMBethernal

Antivaxxers and not knowing what thr fuck they are talking about


raggata

This is very ironic. You can literally see for yourself, that's why I gave you a link. Why act superior when you haven't read the study? I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I just don't think we should deny scientific findings just because they don't suit your narrative.


seattle_born98

Per your own cited article, emphasis mine. > We estimated extra myocarditis events to be between 1 and 10 per million persons in the month following vaccination, which was **substantially lower** than the 40 extra events per million persons observed following SARS-CoV-2 infection.


raggata

You didn't read it properly. Try again. Emphasis try and again. >For men under 40: >Moderna dose 2: IRR 16.52 (9.10, 30.00) >Pfizer dose 2: IRR: 3.41 (2.44, 4.78) >Pfizer dose 3: IRR 7.60 (1.92, 30.15) >Covid infection: IRR 2.02 (1.13, 3.61) Why is it so difficult to just read the study before you reply? This has happened so many times, despite the numbers being right in front of you. It's like you're blinded by your desire to find some "gotcha" rather than actually properly reading study.


seattle_born98

Ironic, considering everything you've pulled from is from the abstract. These are all quotes from the discussion section, where the researchers actually discuss the data. If you understood research, you would know that data is nothing without data analysis. > Thus, neither pericarditis nor any category of cardiac arrhythmia were associated specifically with COVID-19 vaccination > Furthermore, myocarditis following vaccination has been reported with other vaccines, for example, in healthy adults after receipt of live vaccinia virus vaccines > it seems likely that systemic complications of infection are a consequence of an immune-mediated, virus-independent immunopathologic process > Similarly, two studies from the United States have reported an incident rate ratio of 2.7 for myocarditis in the 10 days following the second dose of both mRNA vaccines24 and an estimated 6.3 and 10.1 extra cases per million doses in the 1- to 21-day period following the first and second dose of both mRNA vaccines And finally, > Whilst myocarditis can be life-threatening, most vaccine-associated myocarditis events have been mild and self-limiting Edit: Ooh, one more for the road. > Vaccination for SARS-CoV-2 in adults was associated with a small increase in the risk of myocarditis within a week of receiving the first dose of both adenovirus and mRNA vaccines, and after the second dose of both mRNA vaccines. By contrast, SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a substantial increase in the risk of hospitalization or death from myocarditis, pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmia.


FuujinSama

What do you think that proves? All that’s saying is that the vaccine increases your chances of getting Myocarditis more than viral infection. In case you aren’t aware, Myocarditis is not a part of the common symptoms of Sars-Cov-2 infection.


raggata

It is precisely what it says. For men under 40: Moderna dose 2: IRR 16.52 (9.10, 30.00) Pfizer dose 2: IRR: 3.41 (2.44, 4.78) Pfizer dose 3: IRR 7.60 (1.92, 30.15) Covid infection: IRR 2.02 (1.13, 3.61) Why reply when you clearly haven't read the study?


Golbala

People that cannot think for themselves or be an ounce objective regarding the whole situation. You provided a valid study and get downvoted 😂


raggata

I'm used to it lol. What gets to me though is when people try to argue without even reading the study, and call me an anti vaxxer when I literally just repeat the results of the largest study made to date. 🤷


Tony_Montana060

Wow such an intelligent take. Do you feel smart yet?


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Flamengo81-19

I just translated what was said


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Flamengo81-19

I personally don't think it is necessary. I think Tite said that and if you disagree and think he should be more clear, make a comment here to clarify. But send a modmail if you want to try that instead


Cerberus-Cheerleader

Dude you should apply your own advice when spam all those AS and MD tweets on this sub.


Lukhinn

Guilherme Arana is vaccinated, what is the excuse?


Helkix

Doesn’t play in Europe Which should be no excuse. He is much better than these bozos Tite called up


GoldAndBlack37

Does anyone know why he received his first dose so late?


Enartloc

He probably realized the consequences of his actions and decided to get vaccinated.


Fati25

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡