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C_Forde

Remember when he was supposed to pick up the mantle from Messi and Ronaldo? Seems a long time ago now.


NonRelevantFacts

Don't think that will happen anytime soon. Every great player will be compared to them only to fall off eventually.


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Yeah what a waste of a career by moving to PSG. Highly disappointing.


Inter_Mirifica

Only because he was injured half of the time. If he had the same injuries with Barça it would have been exactly the same story. I hope he'll be able to stay fit now, he's a magical player to watch.


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>If he had the same injuries with Barça it would have been exactly the same story. False. Barca went to the semi's 18/19 without Neymar and with a garbage team. If Neymar just played only the second leg against Liverpool in the whole season, he would have had a second UCL now


SaltineFiend

Ney doesn't miss that sitter


PraisePace

Doesn't help that some Ligue 1 clubs play like they want to break his legs.


oofboiiiii

I can see why


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Eh, since moving to PSG he's been to UCL final once and SF once, which is better than most big teams (bar the ones that actually won it), while being the main man for his team (which he wouldn't have at Barca due to Messi). Leaving Barca was the right decision. It may have fared a bit better if he could move to Madrid, but eventually for many reasons it didn't happen.


rRathi99

>while being the main man for his team *Confused Mbappe noises*


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Neymar is the main man. Neymar Mbappe at PSG is the same as Messi Neymar at Barca.


wutend159

Mbappe was nonexistential last UCL. He carried this season though but Neymar was still the main man against Bayern


[deleted]

He appeared in more UCL finals than barca did since he left for psg..


NotAnurag

And if he stayed he probably would’ve helped us reach a CL final too


[deleted]

So have Tottenham doesn't mean anything if you don't win it mate. Thing is his time at PSG will be considered meaningful only if he wins CL but here doing well in league is also good enough.


[deleted]

Last time he won anything noteworthy was with Barca. Also 0 ballon dors


bass1879

Wow! He left for success and got to a final. Didn't even get a top 3 finish in The Best or Balon d'Or outside of the year where half of his performance came from his time at Barcelona. Now he might lose the league as well. Wonderful.


Ripamon

He's been extremely successful in Paris and they have a brighter immediate future than Barcelona too


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His time at PSG will also be only relevant if he wins the CL otherwise he won't have helped PSG do anything which they wouldn't have done without him.


C_Forde

He went to Paris to win them the UCL and himself the Balon d'Or . His biggest accomplishment there is getting to 1 final and cementing PSG as the biggest bottlers in European history. Not exactly successful


lento9

Sorry but the biggest bottlers award goes to Barcelona


Flimsy-Relationship8

Tottenham hold the title of lord of bottlers actually


lento9

That's also a viable opinion :)


Rafaeliki

How many CLs does PSG have?


lento9

How many does your club have? It's easy to scold a club that's 50 years old. Of course we have less trophies. Idk what you're really trying to say here, aside from the fact that Barca has more UCLs which is a completely irrelevant statement, as we're talking about bottling.


Rafaeliki

How is it irrelevant that the club you are claiming are the biggest bottlers in European history have won it all 5 times to your 0? Especially when that club knocked you out after you went up 4-0.


lento9

Pretty sure bottling doesn't care about the # of UCLs a club has. Barca blew it against Juve, Roma, and Liverpool. Not to mention the 8-2 and the 5-2 this season. All of these in a row.


Rafaeliki

Hard to bottle something when you win it. Barcelona has won it twice since you were bought by Qatar and began your attempt to purchase a CL and ended up with mostly RO16 and QF knockouts.


C_Forde

I'd personally give them a close second because psg did it 2 years in a row , but I will also accept Barcelona as the answer.


lento9

Barcelona had Juve, Roma, Liverpool, and Bayern in a row, objectively I'd give them the award lmao. I don't count PSG beating them this year cuz it was fair and square.


bass1879

How in god's name were the games against Juve and Bayern bottled? They were never ahead against either of those teams. That's not what bottling means


lento9

They played Juve the season before Roma and bottled a 2 or 3 null lead. Bayern was more of a humiliation than a bottling but I felt it had to be included.


bass1879

>They played Juve the season before Roma and bottled a 2 or 3 null lead. What??


julian0999

Why is this downvoted? When did Neymar really bottle anything with psg? Losing the final and a semi final against better squads? While Barcelona gave away multiple goal leads in crucial ties?


lento9

Band-wagon hate towards PSG, or just pure stupidity idk.


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lento9

Considering Neymar was injured the first 2 seasons, and Mbappe didn't have the capacity to carry at the time, I'd give them a pass there. Looking at the past 2 years, I'm sorry but we've clearly had better results than Barcelona in the past 5-6 years. Lastly, Most expensive team=/=Expenditure. In the past 5 years, 4-5 clubs have spent more than us, and none of them has won the UCL during that time. Those clubs are Barcelona, Chelsea, City, and Juve.


Rerel

And Tottenham.


SirIsaacCamNewton

"extremely successful" zero Champions leagues means it's a failure actually


BasedQC

Yeah keep coping bro


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What do you mean?


BasedQC

Barcelona fans can't accept that Neymar doesn't want to play for them so they use every excuse to hide their anger while shitting on him. Kinda funny ngl


[deleted]

He's not wrong though? Neymar hasn't won anything significant since moving PSG with his team or individually. Don't think it's a stretch to say that it was a bad career choice for him


BasedQC

There's only one significant trophy in club football when you got Neymar's talent, it's called the Champions League. PSG was closer to win it than Barça the last few years.


bass1879

Trophies are binary. Either you win it or you don't, and he hasn't won anything significant


[deleted]

You say that but If PSG kept losing in the RO16 it’d be much worse. They’ve reached the final and semifinals in the last two years with a squad that can be improved a lot. He hasn’t won but they’ve been closer than Barca for two years now. People are getting downvoted for saying what actually happened and agreeing with a bunch of what if’s


BasedQC

He won 10 trophies with PSG and was very close to win the C1 the last two years. If he wants to maximize his chance to win the Champions League he needs to stay at PSG.


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Just because he's been closer doesn't mean anything unless he actually wins it. No one's gonna look back on his career and be like "wow remember that time he *almost* won the CL with PSG? What a legend"


BasedQC

Exactly, if he wants to win he needs to stay at a club that go far in the Champions League every year.


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SirIsaacCamNewton

Well I would assume a couple. The ones who use reddit and browse r/soccer for sure


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Okay random Montreal Impact? fan.


julian0999

At least he doesn’t just support a random top club because they’re successful


[deleted]

Oh yeah because I obviously do so and you just happen to know that, fuck off


julian0999

why don’t you support Espanyol?


[deleted]

Because fuck Espanyol? Why should I support them


julian0999

Right, no point in supporting a club that doesn’t regularly win ucls and league titles and doesn’t have the best players


[deleted]

Do you really think that's why people support big clubs?


Rerel

Curb your arrogance. He is having a great career here in Paris. He is definitely having a better career than if he stayed at Barca. Final + semi final of champions league with PSG. When was the last time Messi went to a Champions league semi final? Like 5 years ago or more…


honestlynotBG

In before the Neymar to Barca rumours resurface again next summer


loveandpeace1996

>I grew up as a person, as a human being and as a player. Not too sure if he grew as a player. His progress has been stagnant since he left Barcelona.


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No, he’s more creative now and can also play as a cam


skcyyyy

While he hasn’t won a champions league with psg yet, I do think he’s become a lot more effective and overall a better player individually than he was at Barca


[deleted]

Not at all, he grew a lot in PSG as a 10 and has added way more to his game. Especially the first season under Tuchel he was more all round player than anyone else, almost comparable to Messi


lewis30491

As Pep said, if he had stayed, he would have won one or two more UCL with Barca.


[deleted]

No he wouldn’t. No one was beating Madrid.


mr_salsa123

They were beating them for a couple of years after he left


[deleted]

Not on the biggest stage in the world of the Champions League. 4 CL’s in 5 years for Madrid. That will never be repeated in history. Ronaldo has won as many CL’s himself as Barca has in their entire existence as a club lol.


mr_salsa123

What does Ronaldo have to do with it now?


long_unknown

>hala_madrid722


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Just a fun factual statement I decided to include.


mr_salsa123

Lmao you're sad,I'm actually not even a Barca fan,I just follow them and Madrid cause I'm interested


[deleted]

I’m not sad, I’m extremely happy by the success Madrid has had.


mr_salsa123

Too bad you can't say the same about your mum when she had you


SirIsaacCamNewton

Literally the one competition where they could avoid playing against barca. Had they crossed paths Madrid would have gone from 4 to 0 Champions leagues


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Lololol 🤣🤣🤣


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[deleted]

Did you have a brain aneurysm when writing that!? I have no clue wtf you’re saying.


makban234

Well u are comparing team achievement with an attacker a team consists of 11 players so how u are comparing ronaldo with barca U can compare barca with real madrid u can't compare a single player with a club Ex. I can't compare messi achievement with chelsea as messi has more ucl than Chelsea doesn't mean he is better than chelsea so i will be stupid if i compare like this..


Rafaeliki

Madrid was almost beaten multiple times in that run. Without Neymar leaving, Barcelona doesn't spunk a small nation's GDP on Coutinho and Dembele and they could have addressed the midfield issues. MSN Barcelona was a force. They could have definitely won a couple with Neymar, although everything in a knockout is far from a promise.


[deleted]

I don’t deal with hypothetical nonsense. Barca has been declining for years with or without Neymar. Crap defense and crap midfield. Madrid won 4 CL’s in 5 years beating every top team along the way. You can keep making up scenarios in your head & I’ll what actually happened in real life.


Dveujw

But didn’t you deal with hypothetical nonsense when you said Barca wasn’t beating Madrid in this new, hypothetical scenario? What he’s saying is that Barça could have spend that money in other positions and won a UCL or more if Neymar stayed because of the butterfly effect. No need to get so mad lol, no one’s taking away anything just a simple discussion.


Rafaeliki

The subject of the conversation is a hypothetical. Also, Barcelona had the best defense in Europe during Valverde's first season.


[deleted]

Wrong


SirIsaacCamNewton

So the one competition where they could avoid playing against barca? Lol what a coincidence


[deleted]

Barca is dog shit, they have no business in the discussion of winning the CL. You sound like a delusional moron. It’s been great spanking Barca both times this year.


SirIsaacCamNewton

Meanwhile Barca actually won a trophy this season. How ironic


[deleted]

Enjoy the copa del rey and 3rd place lol


SirIsaacCamNewton

Enjoy zero trophies and playing against Sevilla (4th) Granada (8th) Bilbao (9th and copa del Rey finalist) and Villarreal (6th and europa league finalist) without varane, Ramos, and with hazard and vinicius


bass1879

Half of Spain was beating Madrid what are you talking about


[deleted]

Sure they were 🙄. 4 CL’s in 5 years. Keep crying clown.


no_known_name

Tell me you don't watch Neymar without telling me you don't watch Neymar


mr_salsa123

I'm more concerned the human being and person part,not sure if starting to fight and have a mental break down after you start losing is growing up as a person and a human being


skcyyyy

Funny thing is compared to the rest of the team, Neymar looks like the most calm one lmao. Atleast in the man city match


Dveujw

Maybe he lets his anger off in the field?


modsaretheworstkind

every 10 year old is more grown up than him what a joke


anm63

Certainly is still a petulant child on the field, prob worse than before


BasedQC

Nice Allez Paris 🔥🔥


mayssaaaa

LET'S GOOOOO je t'aime hdiuzahdiuyb


Inferno792

Barca fans are happier about this than PSG, let me tell you. Rumours been a fucking pain.


flashuk100

I can't believe we were robbed of a good 3 or 4 more years of MSN for this "journey". I'm glad he's happy, as a neutral though I just wish this transfer never happened.


Hum-beer-t

In before we win fuck all this season


thebelsnickle1991

It’s a good thing he renewed with PSG. Let’s see what happens with Mbappé’s contract next year.


SirIsaacCamNewton

With him staying I feel PSG is more willing to let one of their stars (mbappe) go


Rerel

He is going to extend only if Leonardo does a good mercato this summer and actually fix the problems for once.


Weakmetal

hard to believe he's 29 already.


[deleted]

Blink if your dad is being held hostage Ney


Exzqairi

Held hostage by a bag of money? That man probably feels like he is in heaven right now


[deleted]

Yeah he probably got his selection of hookers specifically picked by Nasser


Exzqairi

Crazy that Neymar’s yearly salary x4 is still less than Messi’s salary #loyalty


Argonaut_is_real

Do you even know how to count bro? Neymar will earn 30mil a year with his new contract while Messi earns 50mil a year


Exzqairi

50 mil🤣🤣🤣


Argonaut_is_real

?? You're the one who said that Neymar earns 4x less than Messi. Both of their salaries are absurd but the difference is that one of them has won the Ballon D'or the most times in the history of football.


Exzqairi

I’m laughing because that is not even close to Messi’s contract. The details of his contract were literally leaked, including salary


Argonaut_is_real

I hope you do understand that the salaries that I'm stating are post tax. Messi earns 100+mil a year before tax and Neymar earns 60mil a year before tax which is still not 4x less than Messi's salary


Exzqairi

This number is pre-tax..... Neymar earns €30 million pre-tax and it’s a slightly lower salary than he was on previously And why would you say 100+ for Messi when his yearly salary is €138 million pre-tax? Insane the lengths Barca fans will go to in order to make that salary seem lower than it is. That’s not even accounting for the €200 million “loyalty bonus” he got for signing that contract Stop lying and making things up to fit your own narrative when the numbers are out there for you to find By the way, last time I checked 4 times 30 is still less than 138


lento9

And Messi earns how much a year for the so-called "love for the club"? Neymar has accepted a wage reduction, I don't see Messi doing so anytime soon.


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Messi did that lol. Everyone at the club did. Barcelona's wages this season were around 230 million in total.


lento9

So, considerably more than PSG then. No offense, but you guys did/do pay Messi 54m+ a year. I find it a bit ironic to bring up Neymar's wage when Messi earns 24m+ more than him.


[deleted]

Messi is available for more than 50% of the games a year. And Neymar doesn't even perform at the level of Messi even when he is fit. I don't find it surprising that he's paid more than Neymar. Also in case you don't know, Barcelona owns Messi's image rights. They get additional sponsorship income from that. And they compensate that in his wages. Almost 25% of his annual wages are image rights payments. Not the case with Neymar.


lento9

Fair point, Messi is more available. Messi is also better than Neymar, no contest there. However, PSG recruited Neymar to win the UCL, not to win the league. That's what he's paid for. I mean no offense, but when Messi has failed to go to a semi and/or final, I begin to doubt whether the return on the wage paid is actually met. Nevertheless, I didn't know about the image rights, good to know.


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Fair enough man. I never said neymar is greedy and I think he deserves those wages especially because he's putting PSG on the map. His dad tho. Greediest guy I've ever seen.


lento9

I agree, I think with Zlatan 10 years ago and Neymar 5 years ago, PSG has definitely grown internationally. Of course, I think those wages are absurdly high, but that's the basic law of supply and demand so I can't really argue there. Oh for sure, I really despise his dad. He's fake af


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lento9

Care to elaborate?


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lento9

I know what it means, I still fail to see what is wrong with my statement.


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lento9

Last I heard he wasn't decided on staying yet so yeah I'm pretty serious.


W0666007

Lol Barca fans are all over this thread to ensure us that they don't care about Neymar.


ProMarcoMug

I am so happy for him, he has overcome a lot of stuff during his time here but at the moment he looks genuinely at ease at the club and with his teammates


NotAHellriegelNoob

Thank fucking God


Howdareme9

Why? Barca could do with him lmao


TheGamezSmith

>Barca could do with him Oh for sure. He's top 3 itw. But now we are free from rumours for a couple of months atleast.


Rerel

I reckon in few hours MundoDeportivo is going to start writing the “he isn’t happy in Paris” narrative again.


cbr_ninja

Grew up as a person, lmao. He is still an immature little cunt.


lento9

On the pitch no, but off it you can clearly see he's matured.


modsaretheworstkind

so was this corona party thing true or not


KyKy7

Well he had a party, but with like 20 guests and not 500 lol


lento9

?


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mickey mouse trophies in france yes. doubt hell win a cl with psg unless they learn how to build a squad instead of throwing money at two players


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KyKy7

hahahaha


mtojay

Final and semis back to back. Its clearly not impossible. Where could he realistically go where he had better chances? Like who of the very few teams with better chances to win cl soon would be willing to actually get him and pay those wages? I think there is not a single one


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City ?


rigolleto

​ City won't pay his wages.


jwseagles

Ah, you mean the mickey mouse trophy that Lille is about to win? Do you all really just blindly comment this on anything PSG related?


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>Ah, you mean the mickey mouse trophy that Lille is about to win? That's more due to PSG than anything else. PSG should steamroll that league easily.


jwseagles

Or just maybe, some of these teams are actually...pretty good? PSG should win based off the lineup alone yeah, but teams in L1 don’t just roll over. And as we all know with football, what matters most is how you play as a unit; which others in L1 do a much better job of than PSG. We’ve seen in time in and time out in the UCL. L1 teams being written off then casually knocking out city with a bunch of 20 year olds + falcao. Edit: a bunch of 22 year olds but mbappé being 15 brings down the average


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jwseagles

What you’re saying goes against so much of what football is about. Was Leicester just overperforming all of 15/16? Was the rest of the EPL just underperforming?Inter winning this year only because Juve is underperforming? Monaco only won in 16/17 because PSG was underperforming? At some point you have to stop being ignorant realize these teams are good.


SirIsaacCamNewton

Mate, PSG's squad value is the same as Lille, Monaco and Lyon put together. If they don't win the league like the last 7/8 times then that's called underperforming


jwseagles

So just to confirm, Leicester was not good in 2016? Entire EPL just underperformed including city who’s squad was worth ~10x theirs? Lille is good this year. PSG hasn’t been great. Both can’t be true?


anm63

Yep, pretty clear that unless they steamroll the league they're underperforming.


Rerel

What kind of moron are you? - you don’t watch Ligue 1 - you don’t have any idea of the level of the teams in Ligue 1 currently - last season two Ligue 1 teams were competing in the semi finals of champions league against an English team and a german team - you have no clue of the talent we have in Ligue 1 - you just circlejerk the same shit jokes about the French leagues because you think it’s going to be funny but you don’t understand how pathetic it is actually - you’re 12 years old, immature and a virgin


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A league that calls itself the Uber Eats, doesn't take itself serious enough for others to do so.


Rerel

Uber eats is just a sponsor, the premier league is called Barclays one of the shittiest bank in the whole world. They also have Budweiser has official beer sponsor which is literally American piss. Enjoy supporting your American piss league.


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Cowdude179

More parties for Neymar 🎉🎉


[deleted]

Does he speak French? Any interview I've ever seen he speaks Portuguese or Spanish. Bit disrespectful to live in a country for 4 years and not learn the language.


Rerel

Yes https://www.reddit.com/r/psg/comments/n7oev0/a_message_from_our_10_neymarjr2025


ProMarcoMug

He does understand and speak French with his teammates although he isn’t totally fluent at it, he has said before he doesn’t speak French/English in interviews as people make fun of him for his accent or if he mispronounces something and secondly I don’t think it is disrespectful to live in a country and not be fluent in the language (look at Bielsa) , his job is to play football and he does that pretty well.


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It is disrespectful. He chose to learn Spanish but not French? What does that tell you about his opinion of France?


MillerHS

Dude you didn't just said that come on its not hard to see why, it has nothing to do with his opinion of France. He is brazilian, he speaks Portuguese which is very close no Spanish and also he lived in South America surrrounded by Portuguese and Spanish. He probably already knew a fair bit of Spanish before going to Barca. I'm Portuguese and I never had a class of Spanish in my life and I understand almost everything and can string some sentences.


lento9

Did you read what he said? And I'll have you know, Spanish is a lot closer to Portuguese than Portuguese is to French, hence why he speaks it more fluently/with ease.


ProMarcoMug

Firstly it is easier to learn Spanish than French and even more so because Neymar was exposed to Spanish when he was younger even before he joined Barca, secondly he has tried to learn French and as I said he can understand it but not speak it totally fluently which is fine for me.


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It's nothing to do with being disrespectful... he's from Brazil, it's not going to be very difficult to learn Spanish when you're already fluent in Portuguese. There's also a big difference between not bothering to learn any French and being comfortable enough to speak it in interviews that are being broadcast to millions of people