Sweden need to have a serious debate about their level of football. Even the simplest pass looks clunky, like it’s complete luck if it finds a team mate. 50/50 duels bouncing their way as the primary way forward. Youth coaches need to force them to do rondos with dog training shock collars. This is upsettingly poor quality. There’s usually a trade off with poor attacking football, but the defense is somehow worse
Swedish youth football is awful. The Swedish League allsvenskan is also awful with very little tactical innovation and ideas and low tempo. All teams play similarly and you very rarely see teams playing anything else than 4-4-2 unless it's a foreign coach like Hareide who implemented 5-3-2/3-5-2 with Malmö for the first time in Swedish football a couple of years ago.
Reform is badly needed. We are getting by sheer luck in talented footballers taking off abroad, but there's no organisation or competency at the highest level in Swedish football. Its all really poorly organised.
Jesper Karlsson: One of the most inform players in europe, single handedly knocked Lazio out in conference league with fucking AZ
Gudmundsson: Starts every game for a good Lille side
Cajuste: Starts regularly for Reims and played 81 min when they drew PSG
None of them have played a single minute today. Instead we start shit players and isolate Isak and Kulu up top and play Forsberg out of positon at LM in a terrorism 442 deep block
Janne is a fucking dinosaur and should have been sacked a long time ago
He hadn't played in months and still lifted our team up to a way higher level than when we played the matches before that without him. He missed match rhythm but with a little luck would've saved our WC. Nothing about our whole WC campaign is to blame on him
Belgium. Better at football, better at diving. Quite happy their golden generation achieved sod all.
Edit: god I love this sub. Your tears and downvotes feed me ❤️
We had the WC run in 2018, which put us on a Janne Andersson path for the foreseeable future. That future was to be utter shit. We have not done anything since 2018 and now we're squandering a talented new crop of players
It worked when our best forwards were Toivonen playing football with kangaroos and boomerangs and Berg who was bankrolling oil money. When we suddenly have an attack that is miles ahead of our defense we can’t keep playing like this.
Well…the timeline is correct of course, but the reason we are worse is because the central line is weaker. Grankvist retired, and we suddenly have nobody next to Lindelöf. There are no strong central midfielders, and only Ekdal is even decent. Olsen warms a bench. Meanwhile we have better strikers and wingers than we have had in a decade or more.
Fan varför påminde du mig. Jävla tönt som förstörde vår välfärd, ska även förstöra vårt landslag och ⚽️ . Snart ska han väl även få sjunga nationalsången på Skansen med sin övernärda mages fisar.
The game's dead, the crowd is dead (as per usual) and we have no offensive tactical identity. My hopes for the future are slowly dying while the Janne Andersson matchkorv ads are lauging in my face as it happens
What has that to do with this comment? And he's clearly not any worst than the other players Sweden has, bar Kulusevski and Isak atm. But that's why he's on the bench
He hasn't been playing 35 minutes lol. And what's he supposed to do, drop deep and play himself in? He's not 30 anymore to do that like he did before.
Obv he's there to play in the final stages of the games and to be a target forward. What could he do differently today, besides maybe score that header?
fair haha, I didn't realize how old he was. I'm Canadian but I'm at a bar in Sweden and everyone just got super hype seeing him come in haha
I was like *if he's good enough to help at this point why wasn't he in until now* but I didn't want to ask here lmao
Sweden are so garbage lmao. Nations League C will turn into Nations League D for them with this incompetent trainer who somehow still has a job despite all his failures.
Doku on the left, Bakayoko on the right, Openda up top. CDK, Onana, Lavia in the midfield. A lot to love already with this upcoming generation of young players that are going to play big roles in this EC/WC cycle.
Janne needs to go tbh. Sweden has a very talented generation coming up and none of them are getting any playtime besides Ekdal. His philosophy is outdated and he relies on the same crop of players from 5-6 years ago despite bad performances. Kulusevski shouldn't play as a striker and neither Svanberg or Olsson should be playing wide. We have the material for the first time in years to play 443 but we're stuck with Jannes good old outdated 442 which doesn't fit us.
Sweden have already lost Ahmedhodzic and Benjamin Tahirovic due to Jannes stubbornness. Kristoffer Olsson who hasn't played a good game in the NT for years is getting play time ahead of Cajuste and other talented central midfielder. Jesper Karlsson doesn't get to touch the pitch at all despite putting in great performances at Alkmaar.
Thank you Janne for everything but its time to move on and modernize Swedish football. We are so behind Denmark.
If there is anything ive learned its that its often not the national coach. Our generation came in all at once aftr not even qualifying for so long. The problem is most likely high up
Så fucking frustrerande mannen.. dejan borde lira centralt bakom Isak så han har nån att kombinera med.. vi har två spelare framför boll heeeela tiden, slutar med att sista mittfältare slår en långboll på nån av dom så blir de 1mot3 situation.. När ska Karlsson få chansen?? Han gör kaos i Alkmaar och va bäst på plan i båda möten med Lazio
Good to know that Theate will replace Jan at Auxiliary Striker from CB when Jan retires. Dude is literally trying to get behind Sweden’s defensive line. Scary.
Why are we even trying at this point?
Don't worry Sweden, at least your hockey team is great
i'm not in the present, I've gone back to the age when we had a ljungberg, svensson, allbäck, henrik larsson, and prime ibra
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Clearly hit him on his jaw...
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Doesn't matter tho. He hit him, that's the point.
Does Sweden know they had to play football tonight? All they've been doing is whining and complaining
Fallon d'floor nominee: Openda. Hand hits his chin, he holds his eyes.
Yeah was a little much lol, did get hit tho
Sweden need to have a serious debate about their level of football. Even the simplest pass looks clunky, like it’s complete luck if it finds a team mate. 50/50 duels bouncing their way as the primary way forward. Youth coaches need to force them to do rondos with dog training shock collars. This is upsettingly poor quality. There’s usually a trade off with poor attacking football, but the defense is somehow worse
Swedish youth football is awful. The Swedish League allsvenskan is also awful with very little tactical innovation and ideas and low tempo. All teams play similarly and you very rarely see teams playing anything else than 4-4-2 unless it's a foreign coach like Hareide who implemented 5-3-2/3-5-2 with Malmö for the first time in Swedish football a couple of years ago. Reform is badly needed. We are getting by sheer luck in talented footballers taking off abroad, but there's no organisation or competency at the highest level in Swedish football. Its all really poorly organised.
Source: my ass
I believe bob houghton played 352 in the late 70s at malmo while hodgson did something similar at halmstad but i get your point
Jesper Karlsson: One of the most inform players in europe, single handedly knocked Lazio out in conference league with fucking AZ Gudmundsson: Starts every game for a good Lille side Cajuste: Starts regularly for Reims and played 81 min when they drew PSG None of them have played a single minute today. Instead we start shit players and isolate Isak and Kulu up top and play Forsberg out of positon at LM in a terrorism 442 deep block Janne is a fucking dinosaur and should have been sacked a long time ago
I feel you, we had fucking Martinez although this Janne guy seems worse
Seeing all these young talents... I feel sad for portugal
Looking at the comments below, is the scoreline flattering Belgium?
New system, new players, only few days of training with this new group / system, we did very well considering this and we were the best team for sure
Somewhat Seems like every clear cut Sweden chance ends with their player slipping
Smart play: we bought the pitch.
Meanwhile, så låter vi våra maxade talanger spela för andra landslag eftersom de inte gick igenom hela vårat U15-U23 system
Det är faktiskt så jävla dåligt och förbundet lär sig aldrig.
Well after the absolute horror show Lukaku had in the WC, i think he couldn’t have asked for a much better return then this
I was at that Croatia game. Even the Croatian fans around me felt terrible for him
Lukaku barely played in the WC, and barely misses (hits the post) a goal that would've seen us through. He's not to blame for our poor WC.
He hadn't played in months and still lifted our team up to a way higher level than when we played the matches before that without him. He missed match rhythm but with a little luck would've saved our WC. Nothing about our whole WC campaign is to blame on him
Sån lökig spelare augustinsson… haveri på vänsterkanten
Belgium. Better at football, better at diving. Quite happy their golden generation achieved sod all. Edit: god I love this sub. Your tears and downvotes feed me ❤️
Who hurt you
Diving ... Kulusevski is dive instructor
This we agree on
Lol what
are u ok
As a half Frenchman. Yes.
Frenchman even love to complain about national teams they’re not even going up against. Sad. 😂😬
Wrong. We love to complain about everything!
Swedes, we know how a fraud coach feels like
Imagine Martinez played destructive 442 antifootball for 7 years
Sweden's never been that bad these past years, though. Not many big names, but a strong collective.
We had the WC run in 2018, which put us on a Janne Andersson path for the foreseeable future. That future was to be utter shit. We have not done anything since 2018 and now we're squandering a talented new crop of players
> We have not done anything since 2018 I mean, neither have we.
i mean euro 2020 was at least decent
Yeah, I'm letting the anti-Belgian sentiment on /r/soccer get to me.
Then I'm sorry for the both of us. Seems you're on the right track now though. Or we're just that shit
It worked when our best forwards were Toivonen playing football with kangaroos and boomerangs and Berg who was bankrolling oil money. When we suddenly have an attack that is miles ahead of our defense we can’t keep playing like this.
Well…the timeline is correct of course, but the reason we are worse is because the central line is weaker. Grankvist retired, and we suddenly have nobody next to Lindelöf. There are no strong central midfielders, and only Ekdal is even decent. Olsen warms a bench. Meanwhile we have better strikers and wingers than we have had in a decade or more.
Tänk att detta tillåts pågå. OCH DESSUTOM ska fucking Reinfeldt vara högsta hönset för denna cirkus snart. Vi är körda, mina vänner.
Fan varför påminde du mig. Jävla tönt som förstörde vår välfärd, ska även förstöra vårt landslag och ⚽️ . Snart ska han väl även få sjunga nationalsången på Skansen med sin övernärda mages fisar.
Går det att förstöra något som redan är sönder strimlat av en stavmixer, uppkäkat, utspytt och utskitit
Moderatboll incomming
Läggmatcher?
Vafan gör ens claesson på plan? Vart är Jesper?
Hur är vi så dåliga att vi aktivt låter ett kioskmongo göra hattrick?
Damn, Bakayoko.
no euros next year for us
You think Austria takes a spot over you guys?
yes 100%
When we look like this Azerbaijan probably beat us
Yeah we’re finished
It's funny how not a single Belgian player falls down when trying to score
The only player I saw falling down was 2 Swedes trying and failing to foul Bakayoko
Claesson och Augustinsson ☠️ så dåliga
MeN dE göR sÅ mYCKet fÖr LaGeT
Revoke Swedens license to play, this is too embarrassing
This Lukaku guy is so shit /s
Guy scored more goals for us than Eden (#2) and Van Himst (#3) combined, and people still shit on him.
Det här börjar bli pinsamt..
The Futbol Gods did not look favorably upon Sweden tonight it seems
Avgå för i helvete
The game's dead, the crowd is dead (as per usual) and we have no offensive tactical identity. My hopes for the future are slowly dying while the Janne Andersson matchkorv ads are lauging in my face as it happens
Lakaka again
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The ref is helping Sweden if anything by letting Belgium waste time
Zlatan came on to admire Lukaku
Lol, Lukaku wished he had 10% the career Ibra has had
Ibra shouldn’t be anywhere near the Swedish national team. Stop dickriding.
What has that to do with this comment? And he's clearly not any worst than the other players Sweden has, bar Kulusevski and Isak atm. But that's why he's on the bench
We must be watching different games. He’s touched the ball 3 times in 35 minutes.
He hasn't been playing 35 minutes lol. And what's he supposed to do, drop deep and play himself in? He's not 30 anymore to do that like he did before. Obv he's there to play in the final stages of the games and to be a target forward. What could he do differently today, besides maybe score that header?
Willing to give tedesco the benfit but , those are some things that wouldnt ever be unpunished in a major tournament..
Its the first game of a whole new team and new coach
Agreed but its true. It should probably be 3-3 rn and if thats against any dexent team thats 3-0 i hope they get used to everything soon
Slip and another slip and another fucking slip its just not our day today
Bornauw coming on, Sweden might win this.
This ref fucking blind
BRO LEAVE ONANA BE
Mf'ers trying to kill Onana
I don't think he hit Onana the first time*
Is Ibrahimovic no longer one of Sweden's better players? I don't watch a ton of soccer, just wondering why he's only entering now
He's 41.
He’s FORTY-ONE
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fair haha, I didn't realize how old he was. I'm Canadian but I'm at a bar in Sweden and everyone just got super hype seeing him come in haha I was like *if he's good enough to help at this point why wasn't he in until now* but I didn't want to ask here lmao
He is old
He's 41.
Brooo lindelof tf you doing
The gall to protest too
Could be because there were no contact at all
Missed him
Kulusevski must be kicking himself for not choosing to play for North Macedonia instead.
Ibra is still playing for Sweden? Are they trying to actually win matches or do they just not care?
Friends shitty pitch continues to be bad
WHAT THE FUCK IS ALL THIS SLIPPING
This is embarrassing The Swedish midfielders are playing like amateurs
Sweden being let down by their own stadiums grass
Riv Friends för helvete!
Kule doesnt’t deserve this
This pitch is shit
Lets not kid ourselves if it was france wed be ,5-0 down
how many times have we slipped now?
Pitch is wet af
Twice at important moments.
Fucking Claesson in when we have Karlsson on the bench, fuck I want Janne to fuck off so bad
Holy fuck is that Zava?
He is gonna be so good for Richmond, that Zava-Tartt connection 🔥
Vad fan står Claesson och garvar för usch VAD ÄR DETTA FÖR SKIT skärp er
I adore Onana
No matter who we have in defense, there will always be an awful mistake or two EVERY single game.
Sweden are so garbage lmao. Nations League C will turn into Nations League D for them with this incompetent trainer who somehow still has a job despite all his failures.
Id take it tbh hopefully that means we can get a fresh start with a exiciting new coach and not a 442 dinosaur
Ffs Forsberg
Zlatan is still in the NT?
He is in the NT again. He retired for a while and came back.
Zlatan is the NT
Sadly yes
Doku on the left, Bakayoko on the right, Openda up top. CDK, Onana, Lavia in the midfield. A lot to love already with this upcoming generation of young players that are going to play big roles in this EC/WC cycle.
Friends Arena seriously makes bullying look good.
Forsberg with an absolute chank of a chance
What the fuck forsberg
Heheheheheh
What the fuck is this ref? Swedish player gets a yellow for being tacklled???
He deliberately kicked Onana’s knee when falling down
Lukebakio had a great game, Trossard not so much.
Damn finally a coach that makes subs before 75minutes
Bakayoko and Mangala about to be cap-tied, let’s go!!!!!! Lavia next.
They can still change nation till their 21st birthday. Unless they play an actual competition, that is (WC or EC).
Janne needs to go tbh. Sweden has a very talented generation coming up and none of them are getting any playtime besides Ekdal. His philosophy is outdated and he relies on the same crop of players from 5-6 years ago despite bad performances. Kulusevski shouldn't play as a striker and neither Svanberg or Olsson should be playing wide. We have the material for the first time in years to play 443 but we're stuck with Jannes good old outdated 442 which doesn't fit us. Sweden have already lost Ahmedhodzic and Benjamin Tahirovic due to Jannes stubbornness. Kristoffer Olsson who hasn't played a good game in the NT for years is getting play time ahead of Cajuste and other talented central midfielder. Jesper Karlsson doesn't get to touch the pitch at all despite putting in great performances at Alkmaar. Thank you Janne for everything but its time to move on and modernize Swedish football. We are so behind Denmark.
If there is anything ive learned its that its often not the national coach. Our generation came in all at once aftr not even qualifying for so long. The problem is most likely high up
Så fucking frustrerande mannen.. dejan borde lira centralt bakom Isak så han har nån att kombinera med.. vi har två spelare framför boll heeeela tiden, slutar med att sista mittfältare slår en långboll på nån av dom så blir de 1mot3 situation.. När ska Karlsson få chansen?? Han gör kaos i Alkmaar och va bäst på plan i båda möten med Lazio
Dont wind urself up ur playing against the king of ruining golden generations. We feel ur pain.
I agree with you, but Kulusevski, Elanga, Isak and Svanberg are all younger than Hjalmar Ekdal.
Ekdal has been a great defender for several years already. Janne sucks at giving new players the chance to prove themselves.
Agreed!
A great game to cap-tie Romeo and Johan. Fingers crossed.
Something going on with the pitch? Both teams slipping all over
Welcome to Friends Arena, the pitch where we make it very clear that our national sport is hockey.
Does Sweden only ever play with a 4-4-2 formation?
How many NTs actually change formations?
we tried switching it up last year but it did NOT work
Lukebakio has been so good.
Theate is playing LCB, wtf is he doing constantly up the field?? It’s ridiculous.
Man can score let him cook I say
Cue lukebakio being picked up by an arsenal
Sweden making it too easy. Lukaku has barely been involved at all but has 2 goals, very efficient.
Ok can we fire Janne now? Please
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And fuck up our qual?
We suck
Yeah.. the fuck was that
I’ll take a point rn hands down Edit: I’ll take a goal rn hands down
🤣🤣🤣
Belgium such a bluff nation. We should be turning this around in the second half
We might not be the best in the world but I think we have a lot of quality players coming and this team is a good step in the right direction
Maybe in the second half of the second half.
Good start.
You said??
Good luck
Look at that team, we arent in the golden era anymore. This is a dominant game from a very new team.
Kulusevski is leagues above all our other players
Zlatan to score the game winner in the 88”, it is written.
Well he has to score twice now
Thrice, if it's to be a game winner.
Surely he will
Onana Needs to be sweeped up by a top 4 team.
Based Olsson is giving us FM-players a showcase on what happens with 15 ball control and 19 flair but mediocre stats everywhere else.
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It wasn't over the line
Not too bad for a new team on an extra slippy pitch.
Taxi for Augustinsson
Good to know that Theate will replace Jan at Auxiliary Striker from CB when Jan retires. Dude is literally trying to get behind Sweden’s defensive line. Scary.
oh that brother was COOKED
Onana is just incredible.
Faes having an absolute masterclass.