Yesterday was the right decision for the penalty, but the rule should be scraped honestly, why should the penalty taker get a second easy chance after missing the pen?
you are a pro-football aspirant, you have 2 options, a football career that is exactly similar to the career of Henrikh Mkhitaryan or get an education and become a lawyer, what would you choose ?
i actually think he has had a pretty good career especially since he came from armenia, not exactly known for producing football talents
i am an inter fan and he is still doing well in top 5 leagues
If Barcelona wins the domestic treble (La Liga, Copa del Rey and Supercopa de Espana - already won) I think thats a successful season despite CL misery.
La Liga - a sizable lead
Copa De Rey - 1 goal lead with home game to play
Supercopa - Already won
Barcelona not winning the domestic treble would be shocking at this point
Shocking it's a bit too much. Madrid can win the second leg in the cup and, if they don't, there is still a final to play.
Liga should be clearer but there is a clásico too that could put the difference way closer.
Which CL game tonight is likely to be the most entertaining watch for a neutral?
I dont care about any of the teams but as a Swede I am a bit drawn to the Tottenham - Milan game to see Kulisevski (and maybe Ibrahimović?) but I suppose PSG - Bayern is the bigger game.
Yes but that's not what you said. You said his fans don't watch him and rate him, that just means he isn't accurately rated by them, could be over or underrated. What you may have meant is that he isnt as good as his fans say, but that's not what you said.
united is not the biggest club and never was, they are just the biggest marketing machine in england that everyone likes to make fun of and share hollywood stories
Not the trophies, not the style or anything shows that you were ever the biggest.
You just have money and a lot of deluded fans which gives a lot of articlese and people like to make fun of you. No one takes Man United seriously but their own fans and when we see that is the fact we make fun of Bruno, Ten Hag, OGS and so on to rile you up
dudes, you haven't won a PL title in more than 10 years, please accept that you are not only NOT the best club but you are in fact just a bit better than Tottenham now. The SAF era that was an exception in your history will not be repeated.
I’m not one to big up United, but they had a good period under Matt Busby winning their first European cup and won 5 leagues. But you have a point about the club being generally the story of 2 elite managers and not much outside of that. Ferguson won the other 2 CLs in their history and 13 leagues which makes 18 of United’s 20 leagues collectively won under two managers.
Their biggest rivals Liverpool on the other hand can be said to have more of a “style” with a clear line of succession from Shankly in the 60s, Paisley, Fagan and ending with Dalglish in the early 90s. Then you have the likes of Benitez and Klopp winning European Cups respectively. Of all those managers only Dalglish (3 leagues) and Benitez (1 UCL) didn’t win both the league and the European Cup.
>united is not the biggest club and never was, they are just the biggest marketing machine
agreed, even in Fergie era they might be massive fan following wise but on the pitch in Europe they were just another team from England, Barca fans know that better than anyone. I will concede that maybe they were the biggest in UK but thats it.
>It just shows why United is still one biggest club (along side madrid and Barca)
Everyone has been bantering Chelsea too, are they as big as those clubs as well?
>We need to stop engaging in football debates with United fans. That's all there is to it. Every other fanbase has biased fans but I truly believe that their brains don't work like the rest of us
>I woke up with a terrible feeling that Chelsea won.
You lot just beat us 7-0, the way you celebrated I thought you'd be set for at least a decade of happiness.
dont think anyone could really process the thoughts behind suarez tendency to bite his opponent, surely the guy got some loose wire somewhere. it was surreal when it happened years back, more than once too which is insane.
Is absolutely unthinkable in the age of VAR, but when you knew you could get away with it if the ref doesn’t see it, and if you don’t care much about your sportsmanship reputation, seems like a really efficient way to get an opponent beyond rattle that’s also somewhat easy to hide from the ref
I am just in 7th year of my FM game 5 seasons with PSV, 2 with Juventus.
Won lots of leagues and cups, and 1 champions league with PSV.
Yet City have won the League 7 years in row in my game..... Pep and Haaland broke the game.
Haaland in my save only hit 25 goals once in 5 seasons and then the first season I became good in the prem (fighting for Europe) Haaland goes mental and scores 42. City didn't even win the league. Liverpool won somehow and only got 72 points. 2-10,th were separated by 4 points at the end of the season
For those unaware, this is what's happening in ISL -
* Chettri (the guy who has similar amount of national goals as ronaldo and messi) is 38 this year. He does not start anymore but still comes on as an impact sub
* He's kind of having a bad season until the actual playoffs where he has scored a very controversial free kick against a rival club
* Said rival club actually walked off the pitch in protest but the free kick was legitimate and BFC went on to win 1-0
* The next opponent in the semi finals is the team that was unbeaten until the last stages - Mumbai FC. Many call this the best team in ISL to date. It is a CFG product
* Their unbeaten streak during the league matches was broken by none other than Chettri
* We beat Mumbai with another Chettri goal away. A second leg at home is awaiting. Mumbai are still favorites because they're juggernauts and average close to 3.5 goals per match
It would be such a fitting end to his career if he somehow managed to drag BFC from pathetic performances at the beginning of the season to complete an insane comeback. I'm not getting ahead of myself but we have a chance. Regardless, he will go down as one of the most clutch players in India and an all time ISL legend, let alone BFC.
No player is better than Griezmann when you're out of all trophies and you're not playing under pressure of winning some silverware, what a duo they are with Memphis once you're out of every competition
[https://twitter.com/MadridM07/status/1632823585935880192?s=20](https://twitter.com/MadridM07/status/1632823585935880192?s=20) Vini has to calm down with the refs if you want them to protect you that's not how you go about it. The fact that Ancelotti is annoyed with him should say everything about how he's going about it.
I suspect the only reason Bayern loaned Cancelo is so the hamster can make an example of a big name player without further disgruntling any of his own.
It's a really long contract, doesn't make sense to jeopardize important games by playing him when he's out of sorts.
If there's a good player in there, which I believe and hope there is, we have enough time to develop him and he'll have plenty of appearances too.
I get that but he's 22 and he's barely played senior football and if he doesn't play now either how will he develop?
I don't doubt his talent but if he doesn't play he won't make it.
Not that I don't agree, because he's being played out of his natural position, but it's a weird time to make this comment after yesterday's game where he looked absolutely lost just running around like a headless chicken.
He was alright on the ball, but we still couldn't keep possession in midfield. We had absolutely 0 control in midfield and Enzo was caught out of position multiple times and was late to the press most of the times so they were running at our back 5 constantly. We made Emre Can look like a world class midfielder ffs. As soon as we play someone with a decent midfield in the CL, we will get dismantled so easily; we're just lucky Dortmund were absolute shit with their best players injured
Thats a moronic take if i have ever seen one. Dortmund has won their last 10 matches in a row for a reason. We made Dortmund look like shit, you are taking away all the credit probably because you have an agenda against Potter. We executed our plan well, we were poor just with our final strikes and offsides.
We didn't win because of midfield though. Don't worry, you're a bit clueless but you'll see when we get Bayern, Man City, Real or Napoli in the next round. You can even save this and get back to me.
I haven't been amazed by him yet, but he has unfortunately been consistently good in every match he's played.
Once you become a competent club again, I'm a bit worried as to how good he'll become
That Bellingham tackle on Reece at the end should've been a straight red. A goal down with less than 30 seconds left, he goes flying in with his studs up and completely out of control, looked like a frustration tackle. Never had a chance at the ball, Reece was extremely lucky to get out of that without any injuries.
Sterling is the second-highest scorer in the UCL for an Englishman but we decided "calves" was good for marketing and forgot sports is the main part of marketing. Baldie will pay for his sins with another crushing UCL exit.
Sterling's cross for Gundo starting the comeback against Villa is bigger than Grealish's career. And Sterling scored over a hundred goals for us. He could beat his man, run in behind, score lots of goals give assists and make space for his teammates. Our fans have a wierd obsession with a guy who has 3 goals in 20 Prem matches and it's not like we are winning. Meanwhile Arteta is winning with players who can actually run and score. We need a better winger than Grealish, plain and simple as that.
The guy you're replying to follows clubs based on who CFG acquires. He is a fan of Mumbai, NYCFC and Manchester City. I highly doubt he actually watches City play. Just a grade A troll who probably does not know how Grealish has been performing.
For Chelsea,
Thibaut Courtois 154 apps, 58 clean sheets, 152 goals conceded
Kepa Arrizabalaga 148 apps, 58 clean sheets, 151 goals conceded
Obviously it would be stupid to compare the two because TBo is far, far better, but the first impression for almost anyone and especially Chelsea fans is that they feel much less secure when thinking about Kepa's time here and look back on Courtois' much more fondly. The gap is not that huge.
He is nowhere near that mark, even if you take today's market into consideration. At best I would say 80M (paid upfront). Not bad, but not THAT impressive either. Would make good depth for any team though.
He's better than depth though. Thats like saying Reece will be a good depth option for Madrid. He would start at every team. Colwill is a similar talent if not more Rarer coz he's left footed and has that passing range. Only Gvariol comes close and I'd have Colwill any day of the week than Gvardiol
My question is why do you think Colwill is better than Bellingham? Or why even compare them, considering the former is a left back and the latter is a midfielder?
Colwill will be a rare breed as he's incredibly progressive with his apssing and looks composed in defending like VVD. His profile is very hard to find. Bellinghams profile is everywhere. Colwill will end up having more influence and more harder to replace than Jude
Kdb , bernando , gundogan from the city team , sms , mount (going through bad form) , Maddison , Valverde , pedri , gavi etc etc there's a lot and these are the top of my head. For Colwill , the competition is just Gvardiol and Saliba. That's it
Be that as it may, he's not shown it long enough to demand that kind of valuation.
I do hope he comes back to us but unfortunately doesn't look like there is a pathway for him over Koulibaly and Badiashile, even if he might be better.
We’re missing Lloris and Bentancur (light of my life) with Dier suspended and Emerson has a little injury too, unclear whether he’ll start so we’re a bit short staffed. Also we’ll be starting Perisic so it’ll be like we’re playing with 10. I’d be surprised if we didn’t concede at least 2 frankly
Kinda getting tired of saying "(Spurs)" whenever I'm talking about my team
How do I get a flair?
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anywhere on this sub.
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It’s genuinely shocking to me how many United fans either don’t care about or are actively defending Bruno Fernandes’ behaviour on Sunday. That was the most shameful captain’s performance I’ve seen since William Gallas at Birmingham and at least Gallas was reacting to witnessing his teammate getting his leg snapped in half, not merely losing a game of football.
Why are you strawmaning demons? Nobody has this take everyone has said what bruno did was disgraceful and it has definitely called his captaincy into question however that doesn’t justify some of the vile hate he has received over the past few days.
That is the take ive seen from 99.9999% of utd fans.
If anything the support bruno is getting from us is because of how bad the hate has gotten. Its not a co-signing of his actions and you can ask literally every utd fan and they will relay this exact same sentiment.
United fans know that despite that performance, he gives his all every single match and he is the best purchase post Fergie. You're just projecting because you want more people to hate him and it's equal parts funny and pathetic that you're out here pretending to care just so you can get points lmfao.
No, it’s that I remember the fallout for Gallas and even Xhaka and I find the complete contrast with England’s biggest club who should have even higher standards to be surprising. Personally I hope you keep a character like Fernandes as your captain for a very long time 👍
Gallas reacted to the penalty at the end of the game and had a meltdown. That was the most disgraceful thing I have seen as an Arsenal fan. Bruno's was not as bad though his petulance was more of a performance piece.
I know that, it was shameful behaviour but it’s unlikely he would have had that meltdown if he hadn’t just seen a player’s leg snapped in half. Bruno gave up because his team was losing which is a normal thing to happen in a football match, whereas what happened to Diaby was much more extraordinary.
It’s weird cause they’ve literally got Varane and Casemiro who have so much experience at the top level. Neither have been there long granted but Arsenal put Gabriel Jesus into the leadership group pretty much as soon as he came to the club.
People like to chat shite about /r/soccer and it’s sense of humor but Jamie Carragher literally called him [Erik 7 Hag](https://reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/11lbhyw/carragher_making_some_great_points_here/) on live tv lol
Not sure if this is the right forum but just wanted to ask: what exactly makes a player press resistant? Like what are they core/key attributes they differentiates a player who is press resistant and those that are not?
One of the key aspects is first touch. More than dribbling, taking a good first touch to make space is what makes you press resistant.
Zidane was one of the most press resistant players in the world and he said it himself - a good first touch is the mosh important skill to have. You can take out multiple players with it.
Modric, Kroos, Herrera (I know this name is an odd one but he excels at that one thing) especially Kroos is really really good at taking a touch perfectly enough into the right areas so that he's already eliminated half of the press. It involves feinting to fool the opposition, being ready to move into space as soon as your first touch is done. It's also very subtle but hard to do.
Secondary aspects are player specific. Some players rely on physicality (Pogba), dribbling in tight spaces (Ineista, Kovacic), both (Moussa Dembele from Tottenham), composure (a lot of players have this so im going to name Camavinga as he's a very recent example)
Physicality and being calm under pressure and making the right decisions id say. Also just constantly knowing when and where the oppositions players are at all times.
Being able to get out of pressure.
Requires composure, intelligence and technical skill. Have to be able to either dribble through/around it or make the right passes to prevent a loss of possession. Our (Spurs) Dembele is a great example.
Doesn't get fazed when under pressure, they can dribble out of the situation or pass the ball to a teammate. A non-press resistant player would lose the ball to the opposition whenever the opposition runs at them.
Awareness, technical quality, intelligence, calmness. Even if you don't have the technical ability you could pull it off with strength and smart use of shielding the ball. Like defenders often do.
Calmness is the most important imo it's easy to react when someone runs full speed at you, keeping calm and knowing they can usually be easily beaten with a simple move away is 10/10
Busquets is really the best example I can think of for this. The absolute opposite of flashy but always gets out of pressure with a very simple turn away or a cute little drag back. Doesn't need anything special if you know what you're doing.
Yesterday was the right decision for the penalty, but the rule should be scraped honestly, why should the penalty taker get a second easy chance after missing the pen?
you are a pro-football aspirant, you have 2 options, a football career that is exactly similar to the career of Henrikh Mkhitaryan or get an education and become a lawyer, what would you choose ?
Dropping Mkhi like he's had an awful career. Fuck it give me Mariano's career any day
do you think he is a flop or something? Mkhitaryan 7 days of the week.
i actually think he has had a pretty good career especially since he came from armenia, not exactly known for producing football talents i am an inter fan and he is still doing well in top 5 leagues
If there's a guarantee of success, I'd choose becoming a lawyer.
Tf Mkhitaryan 100 times out of 100
Who were the tallest players that were really good at dribbling/body feints?
Current- Ibra
Pogba circa 14/15 - 15/16. His ability on the ball is amazing objectively but even more so for his size
Ronaldinho
Zidane
Wow everyone quickly changing their opinion on Bellingham after yesterday
can't hurt for something to drive his price down a bit haha
We got a name for them, "Morons" I think
watch them change it back when he wins Dortmund the BuLi and puts an end to Bayern's reign.
Is Antony the most one footed player in the entire league?
we all know several one footed right-footed players. He mainly gets highlighted cos he's a lefty
Yes. Even a marginal improvement to his right foot would massively improve his game.
I think the guy who won the Puskas this year is more one footed tbh
And the guy who won the year before him is even more one footed somehow
Bruh
3rd ranked dutch team>3rd ranked Italian team Eredivisie>serie a
If Madrid goes trophyless this season will Ancelotti be sacked ?
Yes, he will retire
I think the last time a Real Madrid manager went trophyless and wasn't sacked was in the 80s
Zidane 20/21.. he wasnt sacked, he left.
Seems like it
yep
Where are all the ligue 1 experts that said Badiashille wasnt going to be ready and monaco made chelsea overpay?
If Barcelona wins the domestic treble (La Liga, Copa del Rey and Supercopa de Espana - already won) I think thats a successful season despite CL misery.
Look at mx fancy pants with their trophies
Imagine supporting a club where the bar for a successful season is three trophies
My expectations at the end of the last season were so low. I really think as long as we win the league it's been a great season
La Liga - a sizable lead Copa De Rey - 1 goal lead with home game to play Supercopa - Already won Barcelona not winning the domestic treble would be shocking at this point
Shocking it's a bit too much. Madrid can win the second leg in the cup and, if they don't, there is still a final to play. Liga should be clearer but there is a clásico too that could put the difference way closer.
Would you consider the season a failure if you win La Liga but lose the Copa del Rey?
It would be disappointing but not a failure, I love the Copa del Rey.
league alone is a successful season for every club.
Which CL game tonight is likely to be the most entertaining watch for a neutral? I dont care about any of the teams but as a Swede I am a bit drawn to the Tottenham - Milan game to see Kulisevski (and maybe Ibrahimović?) but I suppose PSG - Bayern is the bigger game.
PSG Bayern for sure
Bayern - PSG imo.
Mbappe is 100%, Messi is playing good.. recipe for a comeback, or at least a close game.
Who is more overrated Musiala or Bellingham
Both aren’t overrated.
Neither, both are world class
Jude
Musiala
Bellingham because his stans constitute of fans who dont even watch Buli, both high potential players tho.
That doesn't mean he's overrated, it means he's not accurately rated.
isnt that what overrated means? rating someone more than they are rated.
Yes but that's not what you said. You said his fans don't watch him and rate him, that just means he isn't accurately rated by them, could be over or underrated. What you may have meant is that he isnt as good as his fans say, but that's not what you said.
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united is not the biggest club and never was, they are just the biggest marketing machine in england that everyone likes to make fun of and share hollywood stories Not the trophies, not the style or anything shows that you were ever the biggest. You just have money and a lot of deluded fans which gives a lot of articlese and people like to make fun of you. No one takes Man United seriously but their own fans and when we see that is the fact we make fun of Bruno, Ten Hag, OGS and so on to rile you up dudes, you haven't won a PL title in more than 10 years, please accept that you are not only NOT the best club but you are in fact just a bit better than Tottenham now. The SAF era that was an exception in your history will not be repeated.
I’m not one to big up United, but they had a good period under Matt Busby winning their first European cup and won 5 leagues. But you have a point about the club being generally the story of 2 elite managers and not much outside of that. Ferguson won the other 2 CLs in their history and 13 leagues which makes 18 of United’s 20 leagues collectively won under two managers. Their biggest rivals Liverpool on the other hand can be said to have more of a “style” with a clear line of succession from Shankly in the 60s, Paisley, Fagan and ending with Dalglish in the early 90s. Then you have the likes of Benitez and Klopp winning European Cups respectively. Of all those managers only Dalglish (3 leagues) and Benitez (1 UCL) didn’t win both the league and the European Cup.
>united is not the biggest club and never was, they are just the biggest marketing machine agreed, even in Fergie era they might be massive fan following wise but on the pitch in Europe they were just another team from England, Barca fans know that better than anyone. I will concede that maybe they were the biggest in UK but thats it.
>It just shows why United is still one biggest club (along side madrid and Barca) Everyone has been bantering Chelsea too, are they as big as those clubs as well?
Chelsea bantering is from a whole season of failures. United got more traffic from one player in one match then all of Chelsea season put together.
because of his actions after yet another dreadful performance against Liverpool (your biggest rivals)
> But because its a United player everyone jumped on it. > > the most oppressed football club around, man united.
As I said it what comes with being one of the biggest. No other English club get the attention we do. We are massive in comparison.
> We are massive So was the scoreline at Anfield, Oh my God, you guys still havent taken a step back.
>We need to stop engaging in football debates with United fans. That's all there is to it. Every other fanbase has biased fans but I truly believe that their brains don't work like the rest of us
if the biggest humiliation ever from their biggest rival wont pipe them down then you know nothing will.
not to forget in Liverpool's worst or second worst season under Klopp.
I forgot there was Champions League yesterday and I woke up with a terrible feeling that Chelsea won. How did that happen?
>I woke up with a terrible feeling that Chelsea won. You lot just beat us 7-0, the way you celebrated I thought you'd be set for at least a decade of happiness.
your players seem to forget that there's Champions League on Tuesday as well
Barca fans speaking on this lol. Don’t forget that night at Anfield
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Because they were way better the first leg?
dont think anyone could really process the thoughts behind suarez tendency to bite his opponent, surely the guy got some loose wire somewhere. it was surreal when it happened years back, more than once too which is insane.
Is absolutely unthinkable in the age of VAR, but when you knew you could get away with it if the ref doesn’t see it, and if you don’t care much about your sportsmanship reputation, seems like a really efficient way to get an opponent beyond rattle that’s also somewhat easy to hide from the ref
I'm not even the best manager in my fm save poch has like 40 trophies with psg and like 4 cl wins on penalties it's madness.
I am just in 7th year of my FM game 5 seasons with PSV, 2 with Juventus. Won lots of leagues and cups, and 1 champions league with PSV. Yet City have won the League 7 years in row in my game..... Pep and Haaland broke the game.
Haaland in my save only hit 25 goals once in 5 seasons and then the first season I became good in the prem (fighting for Europe) Haaland goes mental and scores 42. City didn't even win the league. Liverpool won somehow and only got 72 points. 2-10,th were separated by 4 points at the end of the season
For those unaware, this is what's happening in ISL - * Chettri (the guy who has similar amount of national goals as ronaldo and messi) is 38 this year. He does not start anymore but still comes on as an impact sub * He's kind of having a bad season until the actual playoffs where he has scored a very controversial free kick against a rival club * Said rival club actually walked off the pitch in protest but the free kick was legitimate and BFC went on to win 1-0 * The next opponent in the semi finals is the team that was unbeaten until the last stages - Mumbai FC. Many call this the best team in ISL to date. It is a CFG product * Their unbeaten streak during the league matches was broken by none other than Chettri * We beat Mumbai with another Chettri goal away. A second leg at home is awaiting. Mumbai are still favorites because they're juggernauts and average close to 3.5 goals per match It would be such a fitting end to his career if he somehow managed to drag BFC from pathetic performances at the beginning of the season to complete an insane comeback. I'm not getting ahead of myself but we have a chance. Regardless, he will go down as one of the most clutch players in India and an all time ISL legend, let alone BFC.
Believe it or not Griezzman is actually the most in-form player in La Liga right now, and has been Atletico’s best player this season by far
No player is better than Griezmann when you're out of all trophies and you're not playing under pressure of winning some silverware, what a duo they are with Memphis once you're out of every competition
Whats not to believe, he was sensational in the world cup now he has carried that form to league with him.
So are they triggering the buy option or nah
He was bought a few months ago
Oh I missed that. Last I heard they were playing him for less than 30mins to avoid the obligation, which admittedly was a long time ago
Ya we negotiated a lower price for him and he ended up getting sold for about 20 million
[https://twitter.com/MadridM07/status/1632823585935880192?s=20](https://twitter.com/MadridM07/status/1632823585935880192?s=20) Vini has to calm down with the refs if you want them to protect you that's not how you go about it. The fact that Ancelotti is annoyed with him should say everything about how he's going about it.
Oh and I forgot Gignac can't play in the second leg because he's not vaccinated LOL. What a fucking dipshit
I suspect the only reason Bayern loaned Cancelo is so the hamster can make an example of a big name player without further disgruntling any of his own.
The hamster?
Nagelsmann i guess
I remember Fabrizio saying Boehly and Potter convinced Mudryk by telling him he'd be a guaranteed starter at Chelsea. The guy barely plays there lol
He came from a country that was at war, barely played football, and moved to a big city throwing him to the wolves isn't going to help.
He would never score against a Craig Dawson led back line you’re too right
It's a really long contract, doesn't make sense to jeopardize important games by playing him when he's out of sorts. If there's a good player in there, which I believe and hope there is, we have enough time to develop him and he'll have plenty of appearances too.
I get that but he's 22 and he's barely played senior football and if he doesn't play now either how will he develop? I don't doubt his talent but if he doesn't play he won't make it.
Sure, but we play like 60 games a season. He'll play.
Exactly, all of these young players can be brought along slowly.
He's too raw for this level. He needs a loan I'm convinced. You cannot be a top level player just cos you're rapid. Dude never passes.
Ok that’s a reach
Sending a 100M player on loan is crazy
What's crazy is doing it twice lmao
oh no...
[TWICE!!!](https://youtu.be/CPlWkDLVkBw)
What Boehly decides to pay is no way reflective of what a player is worth for. Mudryk is too raw is a statement of fact.
Well, it indicates bad business, which is their point.
Lets go, 0-0 against Tigres. We set ourselves us up for the second leg, just gotta deliver at home.
What's your opinion on keepers digging up the penalty spot before a penalty like Gikiewicz and Hitz? Death penalty or only a life in prison?
Session in the stocks should be enough
Believe it or not, straight to jail
I feel that's very lenient.
Enzo is a phenomenal player, since day 1 here he oozes of class.
Not that I don't agree, because he's being played out of his natural position, but it's a weird time to make this comment after yesterday's game where he looked absolutely lost just running around like a headless chicken.
I guess we saw a different match because Kova kept on losing possession while Enzo kept his cool and sprayed balls.
He was alright on the ball, but we still couldn't keep possession in midfield. We had absolutely 0 control in midfield and Enzo was caught out of position multiple times and was late to the press most of the times so they were running at our back 5 constantly. We made Emre Can look like a world class midfielder ffs. As soon as we play someone with a decent midfield in the CL, we will get dismantled so easily; we're just lucky Dortmund were absolute shit with their best players injured
Thats a moronic take if i have ever seen one. Dortmund has won their last 10 matches in a row for a reason. We made Dortmund look like shit, you are taking away all the credit probably because you have an agenda against Potter. We executed our plan well, we were poor just with our final strikes and offsides.
We didn't win because of midfield though. Don't worry, you're a bit clueless but you'll see when we get Bayern, Man City, Real or Napoli in the next round. You can even save this and get back to me.
I haven't been amazed by him yet, but he has unfortunately been consistently good in every match he's played. Once you become a competent club again, I'm a bit worried as to how good he'll become
We're wasting him playing him like Jorginho, but I've really been quite impressed with his play.
That Bellingham tackle on Reece at the end should've been a straight red. A goal down with less than 30 seconds left, he goes flying in with his studs up and completely out of control, looked like a frustration tackle. Never had a chance at the ball, Reece was extremely lucky to get out of that without any injuries.
Doing that vs a player with a history of knee injuries too. He knew what he was doing
He clearly is a veteran in a teenage body. Very good at football, easily escape red cards like Fabinho and likes to moan about referees.
Sterling is the second-highest scorer in the UCL for an Englishman but we decided "calves" was good for marketing and forgot sports is the main part of marketing. Baldie will pay for his sins with another crushing UCL exit.
Weird comment considering Calves in the last few months has put up better performances than Sterling has in his last 3 years at City.
Sterling's cross for Gundo starting the comeback against Villa is bigger than Grealish's career. And Sterling scored over a hundred goals for us. He could beat his man, run in behind, score lots of goals give assists and make space for his teammates. Our fans have a wierd obsession with a guy who has 3 goals in 20 Prem matches and it's not like we are winning. Meanwhile Arteta is winning with players who can actually run and score. We need a better winger than Grealish, plain and simple as that.
The guy you're replying to follows clubs based on who CFG acquires. He is a fan of Mumbai, NYCFC and Manchester City. I highly doubt he actually watches City play. Just a grade A troll who probably does not know how Grealish has been performing.
For Chelsea, Thibaut Courtois 154 apps, 58 clean sheets, 152 goals conceded Kepa Arrizabalaga 148 apps, 58 clean sheets, 151 goals conceded Obviously it would be stupid to compare the two because TBo is far, far better, but the first impression for almost anyone and especially Chelsea fans is that they feel much less secure when thinking about Kepa's time here and look back on Courtois' much more fondly. The gap is not that huge.
Those stats tell you absolutely nothing though to be fair.
Yeah, there's no denying that defense is obviously a huge factor here
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Sterling being the second highest English scorer in the UCL is crazy
I can't for the life of me remember an English forward doing well in the CL, so that doesn't surprise me
If Bellingham is worth 150 million then Colwill is worth 200 million lmao.
He is nowhere near that mark, even if you take today's market into consideration. At best I would say 80M (paid upfront). Not bad, but not THAT impressive either. Would make good depth for any team though.
He's better than depth though. Thats like saying Reece will be a good depth option for Madrid. He would start at every team. Colwill is a similar talent if not more Rarer coz he's left footed and has that passing range. Only Gvariol comes close and I'd have Colwill any day of the week than Gvardiol
And why is that?
Economics bro. Better quality means more price
My question is why do you think Colwill is better than Bellingham? Or why even compare them, considering the former is a left back and the latter is a midfielder?
Colwill will be a rare breed as he's incredibly progressive with his apssing and looks composed in defending like VVD. His profile is very hard to find. Bellinghams profile is everywhere. Colwill will end up having more influence and more harder to replace than Jude
Name 5 players who are similar to Bellingham, and on his level.
Kdb , bernando , gundogan from the city team , sms , mount (going through bad form) , Maddison , Valverde , pedri , gavi etc etc there's a lot and these are the top of my head. For Colwill , the competition is just Gvardiol and Saliba. That's it
Colwill is a left centre-back, but yeah OP is probably taking the piss.
No I'm not. I genuinely believe Colwill is a better and rarer talent than Jude.
Be that as it may, he's not shown it long enough to demand that kind of valuation. I do hope he comes back to us but unfortunately doesn't look like there is a pathway for him over Koulibaly and Badiashile, even if he might be better.
If we sell Colwill we might as well close the academy. That's the worst deal I could ever think of
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My condolences
No need, been suffering for a long time
Milan 2-0 and PSG 1-0 + penalties is what I’m predicting for today
Bayern will win on penalties 5-4 after Sommer saves Mbappe's penalty again
I forgot Bayern had a good backup keeper now instead of Sven Thirdreich
Milan 2-0 away at Tottenham? Would be absolutely embarrassing result by the Spurs
I mean, us being embarrassing isn't anything new. Especially in the CL.
Yeah, that's why it's expected
We’re missing Lloris and Bentancur (light of my life) with Dier suspended and Emerson has a little injury too, unclear whether he’ll start so we’re a bit short staffed. Also we’ll be starting Perisic so it’ll be like we’re playing with 10. I’d be surprised if we didn’t concede at least 2 frankly
Missing Lloris might not have hurt if the backup wasn't Forster
Spurs are missing key players whereas Milan is fully fit
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Kinda getting tired of saying "(Spurs)" whenever I'm talking about my team How do I get a flair? Sorry, I know there's probably a pretty obvious answer somewhere but I tried the thing and it was blank whenever I looked up Tottenham Hotspur.
Did you do it already because I’m definitely seeing a flair? It’s not the current Spurs logo though it’s an old one.
Yeah, did it but I mistakenly took the older flair Seems to be working now though! Thank you so much
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Shit I forgot to get rid of it
Lmao
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It’s genuinely shocking to me how many United fans either don’t care about or are actively defending Bruno Fernandes’ behaviour on Sunday. That was the most shameful captain’s performance I’ve seen since William Gallas at Birmingham and at least Gallas was reacting to witnessing his teammate getting his leg snapped in half, not merely losing a game of football.
Why are you strawmaning demons? Nobody has this take everyone has said what bruno did was disgraceful and it has definitely called his captaincy into question however that doesn’t justify some of the vile hate he has received over the past few days. That is the take ive seen from 99.9999% of utd fans. If anything the support bruno is getting from us is because of how bad the hate has gotten. Its not a co-signing of his actions and you can ask literally every utd fan and they will relay this exact same sentiment.
United fans know that despite that performance, he gives his all every single match and he is the best purchase post Fergie. You're just projecting because you want more people to hate him and it's equal parts funny and pathetic that you're out here pretending to care just so you can get points lmfao.
No, it’s that I remember the fallout for Gallas and even Xhaka and I find the complete contrast with England’s biggest club who should have even higher standards to be surprising. Personally I hope you keep a character like Fernandes as your captain for a very long time 👍
Gallas reacted to the penalty at the end of the game and had a meltdown. That was the most disgraceful thing I have seen as an Arsenal fan. Bruno's was not as bad though his petulance was more of a performance piece.
I know that, it was shameful behaviour but it’s unlikely he would have had that meltdown if he hadn’t just seen a player’s leg snapped in half. Bruno gave up because his team was losing which is a normal thing to happen in a football match, whereas what happened to Diaby was much more extraordinary.
I'd honestly want his ass benched. Also ridiculous that he was made 2nd captain when stuff like this isn't surprising from him at all.
It’s weird cause they’ve literally got Varane and Casemiro who have so much experience at the top level. Neither have been there long granted but Arsenal put Gabriel Jesus into the leadership group pretty much as soon as he came to the club.
Wasn't Maguire give the captaincy like 3 months after being bought. So it is not really uncommon for United either
People like to chat shite about /r/soccer and it’s sense of humor but Jamie Carragher literally called him [Erik 7 Hag](https://reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/11lbhyw/carragher_making_some_great_points_here/) on live tv lol
That's a good slander name but I'm very partial to Erik Ten Months, which is going unused because he's doing well
That was hilarious tbh, right up until the 7 hag part which felt a bit forced.
Nah this is hilarious, thanks for the link
Oh I’m thoroughly enjoying everything about this lol. Even the forced nature of the humor makes it funnier to me
Not sure if this is the right forum but just wanted to ask: what exactly makes a player press resistant? Like what are they core/key attributes they differentiates a player who is press resistant and those that are not?
One of the key aspects is first touch. More than dribbling, taking a good first touch to make space is what makes you press resistant. Zidane was one of the most press resistant players in the world and he said it himself - a good first touch is the mosh important skill to have. You can take out multiple players with it. Modric, Kroos, Herrera (I know this name is an odd one but he excels at that one thing) especially Kroos is really really good at taking a touch perfectly enough into the right areas so that he's already eliminated half of the press. It involves feinting to fool the opposition, being ready to move into space as soon as your first touch is done. It's also very subtle but hard to do. Secondary aspects are player specific. Some players rely on physicality (Pogba), dribbling in tight spaces (Ineista, Kovacic), both (Moussa Dembele from Tottenham), composure (a lot of players have this so im going to name Camavinga as he's a very recent example)
Dribbling in tight spaces is often associated with press resistance. Eg. Kovacic
Physicality and being calm under pressure and making the right decisions id say. Also just constantly knowing when and where the oppositions players are at all times.
Being able to get out of pressure. Requires composure, intelligence and technical skill. Have to be able to either dribble through/around it or make the right passes to prevent a loss of possession. Our (Spurs) Dembele is a great example.
Doesn't get fazed when under pressure, they can dribble out of the situation or pass the ball to a teammate. A non-press resistant player would lose the ball to the opposition whenever the opposition runs at them.
Awareness, technical quality, intelligence, calmness. Even if you don't have the technical ability you could pull it off with strength and smart use of shielding the ball. Like defenders often do.
Calmness is the most important imo it's easy to react when someone runs full speed at you, keeping calm and knowing they can usually be easily beaten with a simple move away is 10/10
Busquets is really the best example I can think of for this. The absolute opposite of flashy but always gets out of pressure with a very simple turn away or a cute little drag back. Doesn't need anything special if you know what you're doing.
What's Graham Potter dreaming about right now?
Kai Havertz
Poor guy, still having nightmares after winning a CL tie.