My absolutely not-asked-for list of the most insufferable Serie A supporters on r/soccer:
1. Milan and it's not even close
Juve supporters are a mixed bag, Inter supporters are not that bad, and the very few Napoli, Roma and Lazio fans on the sub are mostly chill
Yeah it's not really a list is it?
Juve fans are a very close second tbh but yeah for some reason Milan fans on here have been responsible for a disproportionate amount of truly horrid takes ever since they won the Scudetto again
Arsenal fans heres a hypothetical
Saka 4 g/a in the prem 15 g/a across all comps
Rashford 6 g/a in the prem 10 g/a across all comps
Whos the better player
Edit: they cant engage cause they see how stupid the logic is🤣🤣🤣
Nothing to be insucure about lol this thread just shows how stupid arsenal fans are and all you guys can do is just adhom once you see how stupid your mindset is
All comps stats are stupid without context if you’re doing it in the champions league knockouts that matters way more than if you’re doing it in the league cup.
The league is way more important than the Europa group stages and league cup so Saka is doing better
Oh no Saka is only scoring in the most important competition !!!!!!!
I never used all comps stats ever for the Europa league and cups you look at the league and the CL, particularly the knockouts and for me that’s it.
Rashford is having a good year but I think everyone would rather have Sakas PL season where he’s leading the team that’s top of the league. Rashford is also an inside forward and striker, Saka is a wide creator Rashford is meant to be outperforming him with goal involvements to me because that’s all his game is. Saka does so much more.
Don't engage ARS fans, they're currently releasing all the 'pent-up' energy from being losers for so so long.
It's gonna take a good while for it to level out, as there is so much of it.
since I've seen the "dortmund don't even have a manager right now" meme a couple times:
How strong do you guys think Terzic is tactically speaking on a scale of 1 to 10?
Question for Arsenal fans, what's the status of Emile Smith Rowe? I can't remember the last time I saw him play, injured? Also, where would he fit in their formation, left wing or Odegaard position?
Cadiz winger Ivan Alejo just said that he told Vinicius in a game in fall that “you better watch how you behave today if you want to go to the World Cup”. Fucking despicable thing to say to someone. And people act like Vinicius is the instigator in this shit and that he has it all coming for him. I’d be fuming too if someone threatened me like that. As would anyone
There are limits to everything but a few comments is fine. If you want to play at the highest level - and by that I don’t just mean in a big league - at the number one biggest, most successful and most ambitious club in the world you need to be accept that it’s an extremely competitive environment x
Most improved - Rashford. Speaks for itself really, arguably the most in form player in Europe right now.
Most regressed - Nobody really comes to mind because of how woeful we were. Elanga perhaps since he’s been out of the team.
Most improved is most definitely Brandt. Finally feels like the type of player that we all hoped would arrive when we signed him. Kobel might also be a fair shout since he's playing out of his mind right now but I'm picking Brandt over him because Kobel was already really good last season.
Most regressed is difficult so I'll go for a cop-out answer and say Reus because he's been injured more often than last season (but when he does play he actually needs less minutes per goal contribution than last season where he finished with 31 scorer points)
Smith Rowe regressed, even if he's been injured. Tierney has been completely leap-frogged. Most improved is tough.. Ødegaard perhaps? He's up there with the best players in the league now.
Most improved is definitely rashford. And most regressed was probably ronaldo when he was still at the club. We were that shit last season that i can't think of anyone else who was better last year than this
He was one of our few players who actually looked good under rangnick as well, since carrick came in and played him further forward he's looked so much better, then obviously this season he's pushed on even more
Keylor
Aurier-Andersen-Dunk-Lodi
Palhinha-Maddison-Rice
Bowen-Mitro-Mitoma
Speaks volumes that Toney, Caicedo, Neves, JWP, Raya, Zaha etc. don't get in.
Well he plays RW for us. Estupinan is the guy you want at LB, incredible player.
I would probably put in Botman and Tete for Webster and Justin as well.
Shows how much we know as fans when “summer transfer window winners” Tottenham ended up arguably having one of the worst in the league.
I’m just gonna try and suspend any praise or banter I may have for transfers until I see them play
The inverse of fan perception is usually accurate. Transfer Window Winners is a curse.
But I'm not sure that was us, initially it was good but we never spent that £150m that was announced and was ultimately an OK window and not more
Kept saying it for ages, United and Arsenal fans are by far the most insufferable when they’re doing well. Been scrolling for a while now and the DD is filled with both fanbases going at it.
Nope I can be objective since we played all 3 of you in 50/50 ties.
Liverpool were worse by a mile.
Arsenal were pretty insufferable.
then United who weren't too bad but they had also been shit forever.
Its true but you cant talk when you are a liverpool fan, forcing liverpool in every conversation so annoying i used to just skip comments when i saw the liverpool flair
Liverpool fans were using terms like "voice assists", "defensive striker" and "aura" while calling Henderson and anyone else who played a minute for Liverpool world class. You are a clear 1st.
Can't believe I missed out on this. Can't wait for next season when I'll be calling Bajcetic world class while asking if he has surpassed Xavi already 😎😎😎
Arsenal fans on The Overlap are so annoying. Can't take any reasonable criticism of their players.
That city guy that loves the sound of his own voice is annoying as well.
Why do people take their football so seriously online? Like you could insult someone and more often than not they'd just ignore you. But dare say a bad word, even as a joke, about Rashford or Saka for that matter and all of a sudden Man United or Arsenal fans will lose their shit. I have noticed this is very much an online thing, in real life they just laugh and hit you back wtih something about your club.
Calm down, its only a game. You're allowed to have fun.
People heavily focus on negative things online. Probably because it's easier to blow off steam about topics which aren't really important like football, there are no consequences.
Yesterday I was looking for positive comments about Dietmar Hopp, TSG Hoffenheim owner, planning to step down and respect the 50+1 rule in Germany. There was not a single one, although he was hated weekly for a decade. Seems strange
I do feel like a lot of online fans saw Green Street and thought that’s what being a football fan is like. Some of my best mates support Man United or Everton, we take the piss out of each other and move on.
In January I was praising Allegri’s ability to grind out results, then Juve went onto lose 5-1 to Napoli, I kid you not a Milan fan responded to my Allegri comment FOURTEEN days later and started insulting me.
I checked his profile and I wasn’t the only one he was doing it to, he went on some sort of rampage, replying to old comments, I insulted him back and it resulted in me getting a 7 day ban 🫠
I forget what I saw/wrote two days ago I couldn’t imagine having a comment on my mind from a stranger on this site for two weeks unless it was racist, abusive, discriminatory etc
Yeah that was my point, with the insults thing people will often just ignore someone insulting them online. If you did it to their face they'd probably react.
With football fans its almost the opposite. Joke with someone about their team in real life and in my experience they joke back. Do the same online, and its the like you just invaded Poland.
I don't get it.
Ever since I used this sub, I’ve acted like that at times but never irl, It’s so quick and easy to reply aggressively, don’t have take into account there’s an actual person behind that account.
Leicester defender & PL winner Danny Simpson on referee Mark Clattenburg: "He should have sent someone off, but he said something like 'I should have sent you off, but I want yous to win it' — it was mad you know I swear to god!" (UndrTheCosh)
Leicester got soo many decisions that season it was dumb
There's a player who played with all of these in at least 1 official match:
Radamel Falcao, Fabio Cannavaro, Sergio Busquets, Fernando Torres, Ángel Di María, Ivan Rakitic, Jozy Altidore, Martin Demichelis.
Who is the player?
Likely the wrong one since he doesn’t overlap with Cannavaro and i’ve no clue where Altidore played, but Mascherano comes insanely close: Falcao and Demichelis on River, Di María in argentina, Busquets and Rakitic in Barcelona, Torres in Liverpool
I think they will be more of that. Barca is clearly stronger then Real, just has a bad form atm. Will be a 50/50 game at least, because Real always shows up in the classicos
They are clearly not stronger than Real, specially with the current players they have.
I think Xavi playstyle is just more dominant than Ancelotti in most games since he doesn't mind staying back and waiting for counter attacking opportunities, but Madrid starting eleven is stronger than Barcelona imo.
His playstyle is dominant in theory, in reality lot of games get out of control and they hold on to the 1:0 lead for extended periods of time without doing much else. Good example was their recent game against Atletico.
But it's still more dominant than Real Madrid.
Real Madrid relies a lot on small moments of the game and suffers a lot shots from the opposition.
In most games I don't feel like Real is in control. I feel that with Barcelona most of the time.
If by last few you mean ever since the world cup then there may be some truth in it for me. The best defense is a bit misleading, so far they have done an enormous job but if you look at the chances some of the La Liga strikers are missing then you realize this overperformance can't last forever. Once faced with more clinical players, the cracks start to show.
I don't know I see the same issue with Real Madrid. A lot of times they don't lose due to the lack of clinical players from the other teams.
But I don't mean since the world cup because they haven't lost that many points after the world cup in La Liga. I'm excluding the games against United as they were without 3 of their most important players.
Might be just me not noticing it when watching Real.
Yes, they don't lose many points but they suffer a lot and struggle to dominate and control games imo.
Its because its his greatest achievement. People won't talk about the 4 world cups Messi played in and didn't win simply because they don't matter. The 2022 world cup is what cemented his legacy.
Same way playing for Stoke was Choupo Moting's greatest achievement, its all been downhill since.
League Cup final got me thinking about how there aren't cameras on the touch lines? Rugby TMOs literally have all the angles to see the ball everywhere on the pitch unless there are bodies in the way, it shouldn't be difficult
This might be the whiskies talking but having thought about this before I feel like it's because football prioritises the broadcasters rather than the "integrity" (wrong word but you get the jist). VAR can only use the cameras that broadcasters set up at the stadium and TV don't want to waste money pointing a camera perfectly still straight down the line. If you watch a rugby match, most of the time you'll notice the camera angles just being a bit "off" but then you see the replays and notice they're covering most, if not all, of the pitch side angles which helps the TMO.
Football makes the majority of its money from those broadcasters and they all want to have the "cinematic" view that shows the spectacle of the game whereas I feel in rugby, the cameras are actually used as "assistants" to the game
According to wiki he has played 51 league games for Real Madrid, which to be fair was more than I was expecting. I thought he would have like 25 or something. Just goes to show how big of a flop he really has been.
The worst thing that Brendan Rodgers could have done for himself is start the 2019/20 and 2020/21 seasons so well. Before he joined Leicester, they had finish 14th, 1st (an obvious outlier), 12th and then double 9th place finishes. At the beginning of both their UCL challenging seasons, they lost Maguire and Chilwell in each of them, 2 big losses.
At the time of Maguire's sale, if you had offered a Leicester City fan 2 5th place finishes and an FA Cup win in the next 2 seasons, they'd consider that to be an amazing 2 seasons. The thing is that they spent most of those seasons in top 4, which made everyone raise their expectations to feel as if they should somehow be finishing above teams like Man Utd, Chelsea and Spurs (who they did finish above in both seasons).
Perhaps Rodgers time at Leicester has reached the end of its cycle as it often happens in football but I think that he deserves far more respect for those 2 seasons than just being seen as a bottler.
I’ve said all along that if the 5th place seasons happened in reverse (slow start then surge up the table) Rodgers would be hailed as a genius and considered one of the best managers in the league.
Eddie Howe knows this and he's dropping out of top 4 before it's too late.
It's much better to spend matchday 1 to 38 in 5th/6th place instead of dropping from 4th to 5th in week 38.
Yep, Newcastle's recent form is what made me think back to those Leicester seasons again. Let's not forget about what people thought of players like Longstaff, Almiron, Burn etc. before this season. They've done well this season but hardly top 4 level players, even if their form before the drop seemed like that.
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My absolutely not-asked-for list of the most insufferable Serie A supporters on r/soccer: 1. Milan and it's not even close Juve supporters are a mixed bag, Inter supporters are not that bad, and the very few Napoli, Roma and Lazio fans on the sub are mostly chill Yeah it's not really a list is it?
Juve fans are a very close second tbh but yeah for some reason Milan fans on here have been responsible for a disproportionate amount of truly horrid takes ever since they won the Scudetto again
Milán by far, from what I’ve seen online SOME of their fans are rabid.
nice username
I love the drink, it tastes so good 😍
Arsenal fans heres a hypothetical Saka 4 g/a in the prem 15 g/a across all comps Rashford 6 g/a in the prem 10 g/a across all comps Whos the better player Edit: they cant engage cause they see how stupid the logic is🤣🤣🤣
The laughing emojis don’t hide how insecure you are I’m afraid. This is just sad…
Nothing to be insucure about lol this thread just shows how stupid arsenal fans are and all you guys can do is just adhom once you see how stupid your mindset is
Yeah it’s just Arsenal fans who think you’re wrong and pathetic
This is pathetic man
Bad bait
You waited 8 minutes before deciding no one wanted to reply to you was because they "couldn't engage". Muppet.
>Whos the better player Saka. Next.
Just exposed yourself without knowing it lol. You guys just pick and choose when all comp stats are relevant🤣🤣
All comps stats are stupid without context if you’re doing it in the champions league knockouts that matters way more than if you’re doing it in the league cup. The league is way more important than the Europa group stages and league cup so Saka is doing better
Iceman give it a rest mate 🤣🤣🤣just cause saka aint scoring in the competitions doesnt make it irrelevant. If he was youd be using those stats
Oh no Saka is only scoring in the most important competition !!!!!!! I never used all comps stats ever for the Europa league and cups you look at the league and the CL, particularly the knockouts and for me that’s it. Rashford is having a good year but I think everyone would rather have Sakas PL season where he’s leading the team that’s top of the league. Rashford is also an inside forward and striker, Saka is a wide creator Rashford is meant to be outperforming him with goal involvements to me because that’s all his game is. Saka does so much more.
Don't engage ARS fans, they're currently releasing all the 'pent-up' energy from being losers for so so long. It's gonna take a good while for it to level out, as there is so much of it.
🤣🤣🤣mate you aint seen nothing yet. When you get relegated down to non league im gonna be 10x more insufferable
Wdym? My flair is FC Zürich, are you blind and I support United in the PL.
🤣🤣damn guess im fucking blind
Here’s something that’s not a hypothetical we are 11 points ahead of you
Don’t care, they both play for England
Best answer
Almiron
since I've seen the "dortmund don't even have a manager right now" meme a couple times: How strong do you guys think Terzic is tactically speaking on a scale of 1 to 10?
2
9/10
Question for Arsenal fans, what's the status of Emile Smith Rowe? I can't remember the last time I saw him play, injured? Also, where would he fit in their formation, left wing or Odegaard position?
He got a few minutes yesterday after a long while out. >left wing or Odegaard position Probably left wing
He played left wing when he came on yesterday, in the u23 game he played right central mid so I guess it’s gonna just depend
Single just matched with him on tinder, pretty excited about that
Cadiz winger Ivan Alejo just said that he told Vinicius in a game in fall that “you better watch how you behave today if you want to go to the World Cup”. Fucking despicable thing to say to someone. And people act like Vinicius is the instigator in this shit and that he has it all coming for him. I’d be fuming too if someone threatened me like that. As would anyone
You'd have to be softer than baby shite to let that upset you. It's part of the game.
Bro threatening to injure players so that they’ll miss the World Cup is not part of the game. That shit’s taking it too far
It absolutely is, common knowledge if you’ve actually played before.
There are limits to everything but a few comments is fine. If you want to play at the highest level - and by that I don’t just mean in a big league - at the number one biggest, most successful and most ambitious club in the world you need to be accept that it’s an extremely competitive environment x
The shit talk is probably even worse the lower down the pyramid you get lol
Couldn’t have said it better myself, but threatening injury is taking it too far
If you've played football you'd know that this is nothing to be upset about.
I have, and it is lol
I don't think you have, but ok then.
Whatever you say johnnie
Anything is applicable to get into the opponent's players head, it's just shit talking
Anything? Threatening to injure players is okay? If anything goes then what about racism? Does that go too?
Who is your club’s most improved and most regressed player compared to last season?
Most improved - Rashford. Speaks for itself really, arguably the most in form player in Europe right now. Most regressed - Nobody really comes to mind because of how woeful we were. Elanga perhaps since he’s been out of the team.
Bentancur, Son
Most improved: Controversial, but Hojbjerg Most regressed: Son
Most improved: Kepa Most regressed: Everyone else, but probably Cucurella
Ceba and Rudiger
Good shouts
Most improved is most definitely Brandt. Finally feels like the type of player that we all hoped would arrive when we signed him. Kobel might also be a fair shout since he's playing out of his mind right now but I'm picking Brandt over him because Kobel was already really good last season. Most regressed is difficult so I'll go for a cop-out answer and say Reus because he's been injured more often than last season (but when he does play he actually needs less minutes per goal contribution than last season where he finished with 31 scorer points)
Hard to say who’s regressed most, Tierney but that’s because of system Most improved is between Gabriel and Xhaka
Smith Rowe regressed, even if he's been injured. Tierney has been completely leap-frogged. Most improved is tough.. Ødegaard perhaps? He's up there with the best players in the league now.
Most improved is definitely rashford. And most regressed was probably ronaldo when he was still at the club. We were that shit last season that i can't think of anyone else who was better last year than this
Even Martial's improved! Already played 14 games compared to 11 last season!
Good picks. Gonna give a shout out to Fred too for most improved
He was one of our few players who actually looked good under rangnick as well, since carrick came in and played him further forward he's looked so much better, then obviously this season he's pushed on even more
Best Prem XI not featuring any of the “big 6” or Newcastle?
Navas Walker-Peters - Dunk - Webster - Estupinan Rice - Palhinha - Neves Olise - Toney - Maddison
Navas KWP Aguerd Colwill Bueno Palhinha Rice Maddison Olise? Toney Mitoma
Keylor Aurier-Andersen-Dunk-Lodi Palhinha-Maddison-Rice Bowen-Mitro-Mitoma Speaks volumes that Toney, Caicedo, Neves, JWP, Raya, Zaha etc. don't get in.
K Navas Justin Dunk Webster March Palhinha Caicedo Buendia? Maddison Mitoma Toney
March as a LB? Someone doesn't watch Brighton
I googled which said he's a LWB and didn't see many other alternatives. Can't say i keep an eye on him.
Well he plays RW for us. Estupinan is the guy you want at LB, incredible player. I would probably put in Botman and Tete for Webster and Justin as well.
He said no Newcastle tbf
True missed that, Webster just hasn't been that impressive this year the injuries are really hurting his perfromances
Nice team. Caicedo over Rice?
Right now yeah.
Raya Tete I guess Dunk Webster Henry MacAllister Rice Gross Mitoma Toney Maddison
Raya over keylor navas?
I forgot him he’s better than Raya
Brighton with Palhinha in midfield
Shows how much we know as fans when “summer transfer window winners” Tottenham ended up arguably having one of the worst in the league. I’m just gonna try and suspend any praise or banter I may have for transfers until I see them play
The inverse of fan perception is usually accurate. Transfer Window Winners is a curse. But I'm not sure that was us, initially it was good but we never spent that £150m that was announced and was ultimately an OK window and not more
I used to think Zinchenko was the weak link in that City team, lord forgive me
in a bunch of 8s a 8.5 seems like a 9 but in a team of 9s he'd look an 8.
I mean he was
He did win them the title decider. He was the biggest factor in their comeback against Villa.
City were so good that he probably would have been one of the weaker players tbf
Salah is two goals away from breaking Fowler's record for most PL goals scored for Liverpool. This weekend would be the greatest time for a brace, Mo
3-2 United win.
Kept saying it for ages, United and Arsenal fans are by far the most insufferable when they’re doing well. Been scrolling for a while now and the DD is filled with both fanbases going at it.
I think that might just be recency bias in fairness to them
Eh idk, Liverpool fans were more annoying to me still
Basically all big club fanbases are unbearable online, apart from City because there's not as many of them
Nope I can be objective since we played all 3 of you in 50/50 ties. Liverpool were worse by a mile. Arsenal were pretty insufferable. then United who weren't too bad but they had also been shit forever.
Its true but you cant talk when you are a liverpool fan, forcing liverpool in every conversation so annoying i used to just skip comments when i saw the liverpool flair
Liverpool were never this bad lol
please, they're easily the worst top 6 fans.
yeah, they were worse.
Oh im not denying that, our fanbase are a close 3rd imo
Liverpool fans were using terms like "voice assists", "defensive striker" and "aura" while calling Henderson and anyone else who played a minute for Liverpool world class. You are a clear 1st.
Can't believe I missed out on this. Can't wait for next season when I'll be calling Bajcetic world class while asking if he has surpassed Xavi already 😎😎😎
This is why city winning the prem is a necessary evil.
It’s cause we both had to put up with insufferable Liverpool fans once you finally won a premier league
True, the real incentive behind the Rashford vs Saka/Martinelli debates is due to our fans being pompous cunts…..
Arsenal fans on The Overlap are so annoying. Can't take any reasonable criticism of their players. That city guy that loves the sound of his own voice is annoying as well.
They always roll out Ty from AFTV who's a proper nutcase even by our usual standards.
Ty did an "Agree to Disagree" with LadBible and he said Harry Kane wouldn't get into the Arsenal squad
Never forget when [Ty](https://youtu.be/rOGCWvIL_0E) we lost due to rain
I think people are a bit mean to him, but fucking hell he does come out with some shite
J seen an arsenal fan compare Saka with hazard. Pep needs to stop them at all costs
Hazard never got more than 19 non pen goals/assists in a season Saka is currently on 17. No further comment
You lot are a plague
I just said facts
Hopefully they mean Thorgan Hazard
Just found out that Benzema actually posted his stats in thw Instagram Lmao. I never knew he really cared about the award so much.
Not surprising. He has a history of being petty.
Thiago Silva also complained about Alvarez ranking. Who's oting for this award? Journalists like the ballon d'or or players?
Silva wasn’t complaining he was defending Alvarez , it got lost in translation.
My bad i must have misunderstood. So what was he defending him from?
Silva was insinuating that Alvarez should’ve been placed higher
thanks. So complaing about the ranking but the other way...
Yes exactly
NT captains, NT coaches and journalists
Why do people take their football so seriously online? Like you could insult someone and more often than not they'd just ignore you. But dare say a bad word, even as a joke, about Rashford or Saka for that matter and all of a sudden Man United or Arsenal fans will lose their shit. I have noticed this is very much an online thing, in real life they just laugh and hit you back wtih something about your club. Calm down, its only a game. You're allowed to have fun.
People heavily focus on negative things online. Probably because it's easier to blow off steam about topics which aren't really important like football, there are no consequences. Yesterday I was looking for positive comments about Dietmar Hopp, TSG Hoffenheim owner, planning to step down and respect the 50+1 rule in Germany. There was not a single one, although he was hated weekly for a decade. Seems strange
I do feel like a lot of online fans saw Green Street and thought that’s what being a football fan is like. Some of my best mates support Man United or Everton, we take the piss out of each other and move on.
In January I was praising Allegri’s ability to grind out results, then Juve went onto lose 5-1 to Napoli, I kid you not a Milan fan responded to my Allegri comment FOURTEEN days later and started insulting me. I checked his profile and I wasn’t the only one he was doing it to, he went on some sort of rampage, replying to old comments, I insulted him back and it resulted in me getting a 7 day ban 🫠 I forget what I saw/wrote two days ago I couldn’t imagine having a comment on my mind from a stranger on this site for two weeks unless it was racist, abusive, discriminatory etc
That’s just online in general for most things, there’s more consequences irl for going overboard with insults.
Yeah that was my point, with the insults thing people will often just ignore someone insulting them online. If you did it to their face they'd probably react. With football fans its almost the opposite. Joke with someone about their team in real life and in my experience they joke back. Do the same online, and its the like you just invaded Poland. I don't get it.
Ever since I used this sub, I’ve acted like that at times but never irl, It’s so quick and easy to reply aggressively, don’t have take into account there’s an actual person behind that account.
what bad words have been said about rashford and saka?
That was just an example, you can switch Rashford and Saka to Haaland and Salah if you want.
i haven't seen many bad things tbh.. i've only heard "[insert player] isn't as good as people say"
Leicester defender & PL winner Danny Simpson on referee Mark Clattenburg: "He should have sent someone off, but he said something like 'I should have sent you off, but I want yous to win it' — it was mad you know I swear to god!" (UndrTheCosh) Leicester got soo many decisions that season it was dumb
That’s such a vague thing to say. I can’t even remember them getting dodgy decisions
based clattenburg tbh
There's a player who played with all of these in at least 1 official match: Radamel Falcao, Fabio Cannavaro, Sergio Busquets, Fernando Torres, Ángel Di María, Ivan Rakitic, Jozy Altidore, Martin Demichelis. Who is the player?
Likely the wrong one since he doesn’t overlap with Cannavaro and i’ve no clue where Altidore played, but Mascherano comes insanely close: Falcao and Demichelis on River, Di María in argentina, Busquets and Rakitic in Barcelona, Torres in Liverpool
the goalkeeper diego lopez would have been it
Martin Caceres
No
do you guys think that barcelona will be a challenge to real? i dont think so
Barca can beat Madrid tbh
Our best 3 players are out and we are in shit form, dont see it happening
With those 3 out, it'll definitely be a fun match
I think they will be more of that. Barca is clearly stronger then Real, just has a bad form atm. Will be a 50/50 game at least, because Real always shows up in the classicos
They are clearly not stronger than Real, specially with the current players they have. I think Xavi playstyle is just more dominant than Ancelotti in most games since he doesn't mind staying back and waiting for counter attacking opportunities, but Madrid starting eleven is stronger than Barcelona imo.
His playstyle is dominant in theory, in reality lot of games get out of control and they hold on to the 1:0 lead for extended periods of time without doing much else. Good example was their recent game against Atletico.
But it's still more dominant than Real Madrid. Real Madrid relies a lot on small moments of the game and suffers a lot shots from the opposition. In most games I don't feel like Real is in control. I feel that with Barcelona most of the time.
I disagree, suffer a lot is basically Xavi's post game slogan at this point.
In the last few games they have been in bad form but in majority of games they do not suffer. There's a reason they have the best defense.
If by last few you mean ever since the world cup then there may be some truth in it for me. The best defense is a bit misleading, so far they have done an enormous job but if you look at the chances some of the La Liga strikers are missing then you realize this overperformance can't last forever. Once faced with more clinical players, the cracks start to show.
I don't know I see the same issue with Real Madrid. A lot of times they don't lose due to the lack of clinical players from the other teams. But I don't mean since the world cup because they haven't lost that many points after the world cup in La Liga. I'm excluding the games against United as they were without 3 of their most important players.
Might be just me not noticing it when watching Real. Yes, they don't lose many points but they suffer a lot and struggle to dominate and control games imo.
you call that game recent?
Girona, United etc. doesn’t matter, they all descended into chaos. Atletico is my favourite example because Atletico dominated for a good 70 minutes.
I think it’s fair to say that it’s 60-40 Real Madrid due to Barcelona’s injury problems
more like 70-30, our 3 best players missing, we're in shit form and you play at home
Do people know choupo moting only spent 1 year at stoke city. They talk about him at stoke like he was a legend there and stayed for years
Its because its his greatest achievement. People won't talk about the 4 world cups Messi played in and didn't win simply because they don't matter. The 2022 world cup is what cemented his legacy. Same way playing for Stoke was Choupo Moting's greatest achievement, its all been downhill since.
League Cup final got me thinking about how there aren't cameras on the touch lines? Rugby TMOs literally have all the angles to see the ball everywhere on the pitch unless there are bodies in the way, it shouldn't be difficult
This might be the whiskies talking but having thought about this before I feel like it's because football prioritises the broadcasters rather than the "integrity" (wrong word but you get the jist). VAR can only use the cameras that broadcasters set up at the stadium and TV don't want to waste money pointing a camera perfectly still straight down the line. If you watch a rugby match, most of the time you'll notice the camera angles just being a bit "off" but then you see the replays and notice they're covering most, if not all, of the pitch side angles which helps the TMO. Football makes the majority of its money from those broadcasters and they all want to have the "cinematic" view that shows the spectacle of the game whereas I feel in rugby, the cameras are actually used as "assistants" to the game
Thiago Silva vs Julian Alvarez was not a beef I thought I'd see, but I'm here for it.
Lost in translation he wasn’t criticising Alvarez
internet doenst care.
Yeah exactly and now he (Silva) is getting insulted.
In which case I need some other drama to get me through the day
Hazard hasnt played in an official Clasico since he moved to Madrid :)
According to wiki he has played 51 league games for Real Madrid, which to be fair was more than I was expecting. I thought he would have like 25 or something. Just goes to show how big of a flop he really has been.
Only 29 starts to be fair to him, I'd imagine a lot of those appearance were late off the bench to try and build fitness before he gets injured again
His shirt number is as big as his goal tally
We get a good win against Leeds in the weekend and then go through in the UCL. Season turnaround lets go.
1st Arsenal 2nd City 3rd United 4th Liverpool 5th Spurs 6th Newcastle Relegated: Southampton, Bournemouth and Leeds
Spurs more likely for 4th than Liverpool imo
Switch Liv and Spurs imo.
The worst thing that Brendan Rodgers could have done for himself is start the 2019/20 and 2020/21 seasons so well. Before he joined Leicester, they had finish 14th, 1st (an obvious outlier), 12th and then double 9th place finishes. At the beginning of both their UCL challenging seasons, they lost Maguire and Chilwell in each of them, 2 big losses. At the time of Maguire's sale, if you had offered a Leicester City fan 2 5th place finishes and an FA Cup win in the next 2 seasons, they'd consider that to be an amazing 2 seasons. The thing is that they spent most of those seasons in top 4, which made everyone raise their expectations to feel as if they should somehow be finishing above teams like Man Utd, Chelsea and Spurs (who they did finish above in both seasons). Perhaps Rodgers time at Leicester has reached the end of its cycle as it often happens in football but I think that he deserves far more respect for those 2 seasons than just being seen as a bottler.
I’ve said all along that if the 5th place seasons happened in reverse (slow start then surge up the table) Rodgers would be hailed as a genius and considered one of the best managers in the league.
Eddie Howe knows this and he's dropping out of top 4 before it's too late. It's much better to spend matchday 1 to 38 in 5th/6th place instead of dropping from 4th to 5th in week 38.
Yeah Pardew at Newcastle benefitted off two or three insane hot streaks which saw them fluke 5th in that 2011-12 season for years
Yep, Newcastle's recent form is what made me think back to those Leicester seasons again. Let's not forget about what people thought of players like Longstaff, Almiron, Burn etc. before this season. They've done well this season but hardly top 4 level players, even if their form before the drop seemed like that.
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Which player has improved the most this season, compared to the last? Rashford is in for a shout.
Amilron
Rashford easily, but shoutout to Almiron as well. Honesty Saka has come on leaps and bounds too