VAR has to let the referee have the opportunity to stand by his decision on the handball, I lean that it was a penalty, but the referee can only go by what he saw that one first time.
to inform the ref if there's a possible mistake or something that needs a double check (which heavily implies there's been a wrong call) but it's still the refs say
to inform the ref if there's a possible mistake or something that needs a double check (which heavily implies there's been a wrong call) but it's still the refs say
Spending half a country's GDP worth only for the the two best players in your team to be a 39 year old and a 5 month loanee. Boehly what a bussinessman.
Spending half a country's GDP worth only for the the two best players in your team to be a 39 year old and a 5 month loanee. Boehly what a bussinessman.
Spending half a country's GDP worth only for the the two best players in your team to be a 39 year old and a 5 month loanee. Boehly what a bussinessman.
Spending half a country's GDP worth only for the the two best players in your team to be a 39 year old and a 5 month loanee. Boehly what a bussinessman.
All the pundits will act outraged, saying VAR needs to change, its a joke etc... then after a few days it will be forgotten until it happens to the next team, rinse and repeat...
I dunno man, I think Potters a good manager, that doesn't mean he's gonna deliver much with 100m flair players. How much longer are they supposed to stick with him? Anyone else who doesn't have the "project" reputation would be close to the sack right now without many defenders.
Clearly never played the actual game to understand how great he was, most touches, most long balls completed, a great assist, and most through balls in the final third along with all his tackles and recoveries
You watched it sure, but you're blatantly saying this because you hate Chelsea. At least admit it rather than pretending you genuinely watched the game
Pens are legitimate goals earned by the attacking team, and often times the difference when the opposition is parking the bus. Don’t tell me you think Arsenal’s penalty goals are undeserved too?
Mudryk maybe not but way to early to tell but come on if you actually watched the game instead mindlessly talking u saw how great Enzo is and how great he will continue being
Calm down, you got away with the same thing in your game against Man City
Edit: To add, after our goal being ruled out last season because Bowen clipped Mendy while going over him, swings and roundabouts.
Good game. Overall, probably a fair result in the end.
Chelsea have some big issues in the centre of the park. A lot of money spent on wingers, but Potter will know that the prem is all about who dominates the core. And Chelsea didn’t do that today - although against Declan Rice and West Ham’s set up today, that’s easier said than done.
Didn't need to fall. His hand also went at the ball, even just slightly. Straight pen but I'm glad it didn't get given. So much chaos with Chelsea and its amazing
The first time we played them this season they had it go their way, Cornet had a completely fair goal disallowed which got them 2 more points more than they should have had.
Commentators word has swayed a lot of people's opinions about the handball. That was a diving block where his hands were in natural position. Not an outrageous call.
The position of his hands are well within a natural position but the movement towards the ball as he falls should have been the inclination. It was a purposeful attempt to block the ball and his arm moved with his body in the direction that it was travelling
He's breaking his fall by putting his hands on the ground. If it hit his hands when they were that close to his body while standing and it'll never be given a handball.
But if you see when and where the contact is made with the ball, it is after the ball has passed his main body and his arms are extended away from his body. Whether he intended to block it or not with his arms, he definitely made his body larger than required and moved towards the ball. Its definitely a penalty and 95% of people seem to agree
It’s the intent for me. And there’s no reason for him to be diving to stop the ball. It’s a weird spot for the rules and if that’s not considered to be a penalty, then the rules should be revised
A diving block is a slide tackle where your hand is by your side/catching your body. He had no reason to fall the way he did, and clearing shifts his body to get any kind of contact on the ball with his hand outstretched from his side
Joao Felix was so threatening at the start of the game, and now it looks like he changed his mind at some point and thought "fuck it worth another shot with Simeone"
The whole team just completely deflated after they conceded. Only Enzo looked like he wanted to push forward and make attempts at creative passes. Chelsea looking like they have a mentality issue similar to what we had a short time ago before Ten Hag
The whole team just completely deflated after they conceded. Only Enzo looked like he wanted to push forward and make attempts at creative passes. Chelsea looking like they have a mentality issue similar to what we had a short time ago before Ten Hag
fair point, it seems like he was falling to block the shot however the shot was pulled farther than he thought thus hitting his arm.
though I do agree after a few viewing that it looks super suspect. I'm just trying to rationalise why they might have not given it
VAR is such a simple idea. The fact it is so frequently used completely incorrectly surely must go beyond simple incompetence.
I'm not a conspiracy guy at all, but seriously how do you not even call the ref over to look at that. That can't be incompetence. A child could do that.
Cucurella doesnt fucking pass to Mudryk
First half was class, second was shite. 1-1 is a fair result for both performances.
Pathetic club
Pathetic club. Hope it gets even worse with time
Dreams can't be buy
Dreams can't be buy
I dunno, somebody has bought the refs there
*buy the refs there
Chelsea spent all that to still play shit lmao. They claimed mudryk was hazard, the Real Madrid hazard maybe 🤡
But, He is so fast 💨 💨
Chelsea are so wonderfully pathetic
Imagine needing pens
VAR has to let the referee have the opportunity to stand by his decision on the handball, I lean that it was a penalty, but the referee can only go by what he saw that one first time.
Then what's the point of VAR?
Huh? To give the ref a chance to either correct himself or stand by his original decision.
to inform the ref if there's a possible mistake or something that needs a double check (which heavily implies there's been a wrong call) but it's still the refs say
to inform the ref if there's a possible mistake or something that needs a double check (which heavily implies there's been a wrong call) but it's still the refs say
Spending half a country's GDP worth only for the two best players in your team to be a 39 year old and a 5 month loanee. Boehly what a bussinessman.
Enzo???
Weak second half. If they need a midfielder to play it back to defenders they just could've kept Jorgi.
Spending half a country's GDP worth only for the the two best players in your team to be a 39 year old and a 5 month loanee. Boehly what a bussinessman.
Spending half a country's GDP worth only for the the two best players in your team to be a 39 year old and a 5 month loanee. Boehly what a bussinessman.
Spending half a country's GDP worth only for the the two best players in your team to be a 39 year old and a 5 month loanee. Boehly what a bussinessman.
Spending half a country's GDP worth only for the the two best players in your team to be a 39 year old and a 5 month loanee. Boehly what a bussinessman.
Recca James pushed player to be on offside position.
Recca James pushed player to be on offside position.
we were charged with 100 crimes, namely fraud and we face relegation. Yet. Somehow, I feel bad for the Chelsea fans.
we were charged with 100 crimes, namely fraud and we face relegation. Yet. Somehow, I feel bad for the Chelsea fans.
Todd hasn't even got into the most expensive shit for Chelsea yet, the Stadium. Man might have other idea's lol.
This coach is fucking shit
He wasn’t even falling when it hit his arm he was sliding lol
It’s actually Batshit insane that Chelsea fans are defending Enzo’s price target because of todays game, he was average like the rest of the team.
Average take
The bubbles and the pigeons were the highlight of the match for me
Tbf the pigeons were exceptional.
First half had decent football, second half had bird watching.
Ref saw the handball and thought we were playing American football. That’s a flag on Patrick Mahomes false start or whatever they say.
On a good note, Joao Felix has returned to help them after missing 80% of his 6 month loan.
Chelsea next seasons Everton. lol
All the pundits will act outraged, saying VAR needs to change, its a joke etc... then after a few days it will be forgotten until it happens to the next team, rinse and repeat...
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I dunno man, I think Potters a good manager, that doesn't mean he's gonna deliver much with 100m flair players. How much longer are they supposed to stick with him? Anyone else who doesn't have the "project" reputation would be close to the sack right now without many defenders.
Someone doesn't remember #ArtetaOut
Enzo is a £70m midfielder at max, if that. A world Cup doesn't bump you up from £6m > £107m lol. Chelsea are braindead. Benfica are Genius's.
Absolute brain dead take, man of the match and will be one of the best midfielders for years to come
Didn't watch the game then
He might've watched it but he didn't understand what he was seeing
I did, he isn't £107m no matter what shit you come up with to defend him.
He also isn't £6m no matter what shit you come up with to criticize him.
He also isn't £6m no matter what shit you come up with to criticize him.
He also isn't £6m no matter what shit you come up with to criticize him.
He also isn't £6m no matter what shit you come up with to criticize him.
He also isn't £6m no matter what shit you come up with to criticize him.
He also isn't £6m no matter what shit you come up with to criticize him.
He also isn't £6m no matter what shit you come up with to criticize him.
Clearly never played the actual game to understand how great he was, most touches, most long balls completed, a great assist, and most through balls in the final third along with all his tackles and recoveries
You watched it sure, but you're blatantly saying this because you hate Chelsea. At least admit it rather than pretending you genuinely watched the game
Welp, time to spend another 700M.
Is Fonseca available then? Crazy how much money u guys have made with Felix, Enzo and nunez
Is Fonseca available then? Crazy how much money u guys have made with Felix, Enzo and nunez
Crying for a Pen to win you the game, when you're playing the most attacking side we've seen this season... Pathetic Edit: It really is too easy 🎣
Just because your team has been shit doesn't mean you aren't entitled to raise issues with refereeing
Pens are legitimate goals earned by the attacking team, and often times the difference when the opposition is parking the bus. Don’t tell me you think Arsenal’s penalty goals are undeserved too?
We haven't had a penalty in ages mate, yet get told the same thing as I put when we call for them... Swings and roundabouts
Says the Arsenal fan
Woah we got a live one over here 🎣 You can dish it out, but can't take it I see?
r/Cringe
The fuck?
Football can be played with hands now, VAR has changed the game.
1st in the transfer window, you'll never sing that!
It’s almost like Enzo and Mudryk was not worth close to 200 million pounds
Mudryk maybe not but way to early to tell but come on if you actually watched the game instead mindlessly talking u saw how great Enzo is and how great he will continue being
You so desperately wanted Potter Boehly well you got him. lol
Come back when you're World champions
We lost the game when we subbed off madueke and mudryk off for mount and ziyech who were both tragic
How many games does kai have to not make any impact for potter to try starting someone else
Kai Havertz stay onside challenge (impossible)
Bro he fucking dove for it like a keeper!!!!
That was not just a handball it should have been a red.
Calm down, you got away with the same thing in your game against Man City Edit: To add, after our goal being ruled out last season because Bowen clipped Mendy while going over him, swings and roundabouts.
We’ve gotten away with tons, even pulling a man down by his hair. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t what it was.
I still can't see from any of those angles that it didn't hit his knee, they're all crap angles
West Ham fans chanting the referee’s a wanker. Have a word with yourself 😂
Mykhaylo Malfoy at FT: Hello, Potter!
Suck my dick, that was a god damn handball. Spend 5 minutes reviewing offsides and can’t spend 10 seconds checking that…
Quite early to wake up to watch ‘your’ club, huh?
LMFAOOOO
Good game. Overall, probably a fair result in the end. Chelsea have some big issues in the centre of the park. A lot of money spent on wingers, but Potter will know that the prem is all about who dominates the core. And Chelsea didn’t do that today - although against Declan Rice and West Ham’s set up today, that’s easier said than done.
Pawson smiling afterwards, what a fucking cunt
As bad as VAR is, Chelsea deserved nothing more than a point after that second-half performance
They didn't even look like they deserved any point ngl
Money FC in the mud!!! Potter still looking for like a win in a bajillion games or somet lol.
Easily one of the worst referees I’ve seen in a long time
Why do people always claim that VAR doesn't check things? It's such a dumb conspiracy level type shit.
Another shocking decision. Overy official today needs sacking.
Scrap VAR
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Didn't need to fall. His hand also went at the ball, even just slightly. Straight pen but I'm glad it didn't get given. So much chaos with Chelsea and its amazing
Not summon your inner bloody Alisson mate
Atleast they won the winter transfer window
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I'm so mad rn
Hahahhaha
Lol just saw yesterdays game and yeah VAR fucked you guys aswell
These chelsea fans act as if every ref in existence is against them lmfao
Also the fact they were gifted a draw by the ref the last time they played us.
Nah, you're thinking of Arsenal fans.
Rent free
Every fan base acts like that when a big decision goes against them through incompetence, which is a regular occurrence.
Are you dumb? Did you even watch the handball?
Yeah I did. He fell. He didn’t stretch out his arm or anything. His arm was there to support himself
The first time we played them this season they had it go their way, Cornet had a completely fair goal disallowed which got them 2 more points more than they should have had.
true tbf
true tbf
His arm was in the air when it got hit, is he an air bender or how is he supporting himself?
He fell in a natural way tho
Don't think Rice will be joining that in the summer lmao, no sense of direction.
Should’ve sold him earlier. His value has dropped considerably since then
personally i’m good with that, man was absolutely anonymous today just as he is in an england shirt
Regardless of the pen situation, Chelsea made a poor 2nd half overall after their good 1st.
That was an absolute VARce of a non-hanball. Not complaining about the outcome for obvious reasons.
All that money spent…
We forgot to pay the refs and VAR
Big mistake bud
Nearly beats the the Spurs game for worst referring.
POTTER OUT peak fraud, no instant results
Chelsea can be justifiably pissed about the refs. But wow they also are not that good at football
No more Cuckrella, RLC cannot start, and Reece needs to wake his ass up.
How was that a foul? Refs today have been hilariously bad.
VAR reminds me of when the NFL implemented challenging penalties. VAR not wanting to step on the refs toes even when they complete fuck it up
Well, that was dull. Time to watch the rugby.
Commentators word has swayed a lot of people's opinions about the handball. That was a diving block where his hands were in natural position. Not an outrageous call.
The position of his hands are well within a natural position but the movement towards the ball as he falls should have been the inclination. It was a purposeful attempt to block the ball and his arm moved with his body in the direction that it was travelling
He's breaking his fall by putting his hands on the ground. If it hit his hands when they were that close to his body while standing and it'll never be given a handball.
But if you see when and where the contact is made with the ball, it is after the ball has passed his main body and his arms are extended away from his body. Whether he intended to block it or not with his arms, he definitely made his body larger than required and moved towards the ball. Its definitely a penalty and 95% of people seem to agree
It’s the intent for me. And there’s no reason for him to be diving to stop the ball. It’s a weird spot for the rules and if that’s not considered to be a penalty, then the rules should be revised
A diving block is a slide tackle where your hand is by your side/catching your body. He had no reason to fall the way he did, and clearing shifts his body to get any kind of contact on the ball with his hand outstretched from his side
the outrage is at the fact that the rule is beyond stupid and that should be a handball any given day.
Greatest questions in history of mankind: ~~How was that not a pen?~~ How has Havertz stayed whe full 90 on the pitch?
Lol if you're Chelsea you lose either way playing Havertz or Aubameyang. Both are so so shit may as well play Auba few games.
I'd play Fofana over both. At least he's raw and has potential
Yeah, honestly wouldn't be the worse idea, will potter do it? no lol.
Auba was good at barca, so i really belive it's missmanagment
Best refereeing performance 2023
This officiating is just criminal. Absolutely disgraceful how are they still so bad?
It took them 5 minutes to check the offside goal, but they didn’t bother to check the handball. 😂
Joao Felix was so threatening at the start of the game, and now it looks like he changed his mind at some point and thought "fuck it worth another shot with Simeone"
The whole team just completely deflated after they conceded. Only Enzo looked like he wanted to push forward and make attempts at creative passes. Chelsea looking like they have a mentality issue similar to what we had a short time ago before Ten Hag
The whole team just completely deflated after they conceded. Only Enzo looked like he wanted to push forward and make attempts at creative passes. Chelsea looking like they have a mentality issue similar to what we had a short time ago before Ten Hag
It’s our fault for not playing in red I guess, then it’d be a pen
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but why is he falling, no one's there
fair point, it seems like he was falling to block the shot however the shot was pulled farther than he thought thus hitting his arm. though I do agree after a few viewing that it looks super suspect. I'm just trying to rationalise why they might have not given it
He moved his hand towards the ball when he was halfway down to the ground.
Lol chillwell
Wow a call against west ham?
Not sure that is a foul when the player is looking up and the ball is landing 10 yards away, its totally inadvertant.
It’s not fair to the defender that they could just get tripped over and it not be a foul though
Chilwell diving to hold a draw against West Ham, so embarrassing
Lmao that dive
Enzos been shit all match, at best he’s been okay.
You're right, ref should have been MOTM for WH
Missed his assist then?
Fuck me, West Ham are so shit in open play. Can't play simple through balls.
Disastrous refereeing this game. Truly awful when the ref is the protagonist and makes bad call after bad call for one team only.
VAR is such a simple idea. The fact it is so frequently used completely incorrectly surely must go beyond simple incompetence. I'm not a conspiracy guy at all, but seriously how do you not even call the ref over to look at that. That can't be incompetence. A child could do that.
A lot of malicious compliance, I reckon.
pretty sure PL refs are looking to abolish VAR so they are purposefully sabotaging it
Don't understand why we brought Datro Fofana in if a non-scoring Havertz gets in ahead of him. It really does boggle the mind.
Why tf is Gallagher intercepting a pass meant for Enzo ffs.
It was right at him lol was a terrible pass from james
How the hell is that a foul lmao
Fernandez man of the match? Chelsea have not been in the game second half.
looking forward to the PL Refs’ official statement in 3 weeks saying whoops that should have been a pen hehe
CAM ON WEST 'AM. SCOR SOM FACKING GOALS
Draw a shit result for both, West ham should be going for this as Chelsea are so shit.
Still basically impossible to feel bad for Chelsea. They buy every player under the sun and are still bang average lol