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Tahapatel

I can see why people want Timo sold im not against that but how are people wanting him out based on this game where he didn't even play....


Fxrguss

No1 is basing it on this game today.....todays game just emphasizes, yet again, our attackers (in general) are just not good enough. Werner is top of that list. If we're real no-one other than kai/mount should be nailed on to stay. I'd probably throw cho in there too but imo he needs a loan


mellvins059

Not sure what Kai has done in the last 2 years to be nailed on to stay tbh


Tahapatel

I feel CHO and Puli need to be the 1st out of the door with the performances all around at least werner has played better then them when he starts consistently


dmode123

We really need to upgrade our midfield. Kante / Jorgi is way past expiry date. With both of them playing we have ZERO threat through the middle. I like Jorgi. I watched him closely today playing a no stress game and still he didn’t take any chance. His first instinct is always to play a safe pass and secure the ball. No matter where he is on the pitch. He doesn’t even think about playing a ball behind the lines, through balls etc. 99% of his passes are backwards or sideways to a player open. We really need some midfielders who are willing to take some chances


Fxrguss

This. It doesn't help we have a midfield who scores about 3 open play goals a season...its just safe boring passes round the box repeat, noone takes a risk and trys to play a through ball or take a shot from 20 yards other than rudiger lmao. I looked up how many open play goals our midfield has scored, compared to liverpools. (I used liverpool as a example cause city blow us out the water with kdb/silva/gundogan/rodri) whereas liverpools midfield dont score very often). ​ Chelsea have scored 6 goals from midfield, 2 from kova, 2 kante 1 rlc 1 saul 0 jorgi. 6 goals from midfield - I don't even class saul as a player so lets say 5. ​ Liverpool have 17 from thiago/fabihno/henderson/keita. That's not even counting their cup game/rotation players like harvey elliot curtis jones etc. ​ Not only does our attack stink our midfield contributes almost nothing goal wise too. Given they're not there to score it'd sure take the load of relying on wing backs/setpieces every game to score...we badly need a midfielder who can contribute 6-8 goals a season. I guess if we buy a dm and play 4-3-3 mount will be that guy since hes a midfielder playing in attack cause our attacks so piss poor but still - we need more goals from all around the pitch next season.


idgafwewonthecl

For some reason, todays game ending 1-1 and us being done with this season kinda makes me feel like I would feel as a kid on the last day of school. I don’t know why I feel this way this time when I never do. Maybe it’s cause of the new management and shit, such a weird feeling.


v4xN0s

For those of you who had bought the tickets for the US games in the past, how quickly do they sell out? I have family in Charlotte and was hoping to visit them and go to the game at the same time.


Jtown021

Bought mine for Orlando today and there were still plenty left.


v4xN0s

We’re you part of some membership that gave you the code to access the tickets? I just got a pop up that asked for my email and would get notified when there are updates.


Jtown021

Ticketmaster has them.


blueseleven

I would guess not very fast, they will need to fill an NFL stadium BoA stadium seats just under 75k, so even if they shut down some sections should be plenty of tickets. I went to Chelsea Barca years ago at FedEx in the DC area and it never sold out.


v4xN0s

Awesome, we are just playing the local FC team, so I'm guessing it wont be that packed anyway, wish they played arsenal there instead, but cant wait to finally watch a live game again.


blueseleven

Don’t discount the MLS following especially with the newer teams, the league has done a great job of expanding into cities where they attract a big following + people willing to travel as Chelsea fans or just to see a Prem league team play.


SnooAvocados8580

I hate Everton. But I love that Lampard makes it with them. He needs this win. Wish him the best going forward


BrockStinky

Fucking hell, did you guys see the shit happening at Goodison Park? Two massive pitch invasions. Some cunt fans provoked and got into an altercation with Vieira. They should get a massive fine and a stadium closure. Hate that club and their fans. Hope Lamps leaves them immediately.


dethvan3000

The pitch invasions have gotten out of hand. The Billy Sharp incident and now this with Vieira within two days of one another. Surely the FA will think about normalizing barricades sooner than later.


Cowdude179

Forget Tchouameni, sell Kante and get Neves and Maddison. They will fix our problems


todorxd

He might be better than Ziyech but I think we should just stick with Mount and Havertz.


todorxd

Oh yeah, andGallagher is also gonna go straight into the first team.


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Joebinho

Kante is one of the best players I have ever seen. He revolutionized what it meant to be a ball winning midfielder. He has absolutely been our best player for a few years now. Yeah he’s not flashy like those other guys, but the Kante we’ve all had the pleasure of watching the last few years has consistently been one of the top players in the world. Honestly, what are you smoking.


idgafwewonthecl

You’re literally biased by mantes recent form. On form, he’s the best midfielder in the world imo.


MJ9695

Different positions and roles, but at his best he means I guess


___i____m

Couldn't watch the game, what a fucking pass from james holy shit, had to rewatch it immediately. Please pay the man Also saw everton down by 2. I expected some drama and a fight from everton but they actually won it, and though i don't care for everton i'm so happy for lamps!


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CardboardGristle

Might be a case where we have to cut our losses with him. Personally I think he is too young and too much potential to give up on so soon but it's frustrating to watch him play sometimes, and ten times more tiring to see or engage in discourse about him. One side refuses to hear anything bad about him and the other is completely, absurdly merciless in their criticism. At this point I'd say sell him just so we don't have to see the same sequence of comments every damn match thread.


brightcrayon92

So guys, what are your expectations for the next season? I am hoping for a top 3 finish in PL and a UCL semi final spot and hopefully ending the FA cup final curse. TT should only play the youth team in Carabao cup, those extra games really fucked the december and january schedule.


blueseleven

I want to see a team that is being built to compete long term at a high level. If we are re-building like TT said I’m pushing aside expectations around trophies and place except my caveat below and more concerned with is Tuchel getting backed and getting the right pieces into place for a solid foundation. Realistically at elite levels I don’t believe in “projects” but it also takes some time to get a cohesive team firing on all cylinders. Some specific things im looking for: - If Rom stays, our attack adapted to get him better service - more focus on speeding up our attack and ability to attack directly at an opponent - solidify our backline - improvement by Mendy off his line and his passing - Improvements in our game management Caveat: We shouldn’t lose champions league qualification even though we are rebuilding, so maintain anywhere in top 4.


sweetmercury

I feel dreadful about next season, i think making top4 next season is gonna be very hard, we have a big job in front of us of rebuilding the squad, while teams like spurs and arsenal will keep improving, and i think man utd will figure out their problems with ten hag. I'm definitely lowering my expectations for next season.


Pointels21

Spurs and arsenal aren’t really in better shape than us. Arsenal bottles more than us and has a thin squad, they’re also going to be tired from 2 games a week and Son/ Kane paper over a lot of Tottenham’s problems. I wouldn’t be surprised if Levy/ conte have a falling out at some point if Levy doesn’t back conte financially


sweetmercury

But they will be in a better shape than us next season considering we're losing our whole back line + our attack isn't performing well enough, I mean this whole squad totally lost the confidence and chemistry that was built in our CL win compaign.


Pointels21

We’ll get it back. We’re not going to be playing with sanctions and ownership drama like this season. Tuchel made Rudi and AC great and he’ll do that with new defenders too. Arsenal has been “rebuilding” for 3 years and still couldn’t come make top 4. We’re gonna get a midfield spark in Gallagher back


Sasinovic

When were we just as bad and boring at home over a period of 28 home games in the PL?


CeleryAndSausages

Sarri is the only one I can think of, but he had Hazard who was able to dispel the boredom.


Sasinovic

Yes, possibly, but with Hazard we were not as bad and boring as we are now. To me, Tuchel is an overrated coach, yes he is good in some areas but struggles with the most difficult in football and it is attacking play. The same thing happened in PSG, they played shit and boring football. In addition, he does not hit a single change during the matches. We get worse every time.


Joebinho

Tuchel - Makes 5/6 finals, wins 2 finals, draws 2 finals. 1st full season 3rd place w/o preferred 11 for most of the season, keeps players moral up during sanctions and sale Sasinovic - tUchEl is oVeRatEd


Sasinovic

RDM makes us to 3 finals. Win FA and CL he was our manager for 8 mounths. He had a core in the team that was far above the top. The core of the team was well over 30 years on average. Is he a good manager? Yes we have won 1 big final and 1 slightly smaller. We have lost 2 FA which are important, I rank FA far above WC and the super cup. Yes we have played finals but how do we perform? Defansive. Scores barely goals in the finals. 1 against City, 1 against Villareal at 120m, 0 against Leicester. 0 against Liverpool. 0 against Liverpool 1 against the Brazilian team in 120min who came on a penalty kick. We have scored 2 goals and 1 penalty in over 660 minutes.


ionelp

Top3


Sid_da_bomb

Welp at least 3rd place is secured.


Faeluchu

Gerrard's Villa can't even beat that relegation-battling Burnley side, but Scousers think they'll overcome City? Good one.


BrockStinky

I don't think they expect it lol, they're just hoping


bitfuninnit

The Reece midfield experiment is interesting


GMSB

Is there like a Chelsea FC no salt subreddit? Would love to discuss the club without half of every thread being devoted to hating our own players


Chronibitis

r/Chelsea seems pretty relaxed, but it’s not nearly as active


blueseleven

From the about 30 seconds peacock has allowed me to see Alonso is working hard to lower his transfer fee to Barca hopefully he is off before or at half


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ihatestains

same here


Eastern_Chemical5145

Same here. Must be a technical issue


blueseleven

Yup


Kalipolis

Yes. Constantly.


allid33

Who do you want to see relegated? I have no real issue with Burnley but this year and last they seem to be the team I can't muster any excitement for. Leeds and Everton fans are brutal but pulling for Lamps and Jesse Marsch.


ebk09

Could we be the subject of the next All or Nothing? I don't think it would have been possible under Roman, but Boehly would surely welcome even more exposure to an American audience?


Pointels21

We don’t need the distraction


blueseleven

God I hope not


ebk09

Why not? Arsenal will be pure comedy, but if we assume a succesful season next year, then it could be great


CardboardGristle

I feel like it's putting pressure on players and staff to create a spectacle for public consumption. I doubt the end product is particularly representative of what actually goes down, and beyond monetary benefit there really isn't anything good about it.


blueseleven

I believe it’s an unnecessary distraction and it’s for teams who aren’t having success and want media coverage and it always makes them look small. I’m thinking across all dapper team docs.


DoYouEvenShrift

As predicted, the Fifa playing weirdos on this sub crying that we aren't giving up third place so our academy boys can have some fun.


nosmigon

Yep. Who fucking cares. We got top four 2 matches early. Lord knows we haven't seen that in at least 4 seasons. Players like ziyech and Lukaku and puli need to find some form. Give em a run around with no pressure


clees07

Line up just out. Glad to see the club is going all out for third. Let’s seal that up, then play the teenagers next game!


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typicalpelican

You have to look at total annual account costs plus the age and potential for resale and extensions. Rudiger would be €35m bonus for 3 years + €11-13m a season. That's €20-25m a season with no resale potential and then we have to replace in 3 years. Even if Kounde costs €60m he's probably attainable for close to €7-9m a season over a 5 year deal. So that would put him at less annual cost and he'd have may more resale potential or he'll be 28 once the current deal ends, which means he can just be extended and you don't need to buy for another 3+ years. Plus the truth is Rudi probably wants to go to Madrid.


nosmigon

Correct on every count


Nasty133

You have to think about the wages that Kounde will be on compared to what Rudi was asking for in order to have an accurate comparison. Kounde currently makes 69k a week while Rudi was asking for 200+k a week. Also after 4 years, Kounde will likely be worth more than he is right now while Rudiger's value is only dropping from here. I was bored so I did some math lol... Rudiger on 250k a week for 4 years vs Kounde on 125k a week for 4 years with 65 mil transfer fee. Rudiger: 52 mil Kounde: 26 mil + 65 mil = 91 mil As long as we can sell Kounde for more than 39 mil in 4 years when he's 26 and in the prime of his career then it's worth it to move on from Rudi for a worthwhile replacement.


MJ9695

Who said Kounde is even a replacement for Rudi?? They play opposite sides of the field


Nasty133

He’s not but he’s the most tangible CB link we have at the moment. As far as the finances side goes, it doesn’t matter if they play the exact same positions. The goal is most likely to sure up our back line on the pitch while planning out future business decisions as far as recruitment and contracts go. With multiple CBs leaving on free transfers it’s not necessarily comparing rudi’s contract with his replacement but also comparing with Christensen’s replacement, or Azpi’s replacement and who’s available in that position.


Muquadam

Nice analysis. But Kounde isn't the one being targeted to replace Rudi. Pau Torres/Koulibaly/Gvardiol are the likely replacements. Have any idea how much those guys earn at the moment?


Nasty133

I believe koulibaly is just short of 200k a week but gvardiol is like 30k


Muquadam

Nice, didn't know Koulibaly already earns this much. Would love to have him replace Rudi tho, and Colwill to rotate with him + adapt to Thiago's central role, Christensen leaving really fucked us big time.


CaptBailey

is there a dvd of our ucl final victory against bayern? whr can i buy?


SkepticSlakoth

Looks like AWB is leaving United. He could be a good back up to Reece James provided they don't ask for more than 20m.


CardboardGristle

He is a solid defender but really doesn't fit the kind of profile we play or i would like to see us play. He has regressed in general, but has never been good in attack. I prefer wingbacks like we have or aggressive fullbacks like Brana and Dani Alves. Wan Bissaka is a very conservative and uninteresting player. Could be good squad depth, but he is too young and now has too high of a profile to want that kind of role with us. Just not a good fit imo


nosmigon

Don't want AWB anywhere near our club. Plus he is still young. He won't be happy playing as a backup


Inght

High wages for a backup


jerryliveson

The Globe on Baker St a decent place to watch the match tonight? Was there for the FA Cup at the weekend and it was mental, unsure if it’s just a pre-Wembley thing though. First time in London.


ActuallyJohnTerry

It’s usually a good spot


jerryliveson

Cheers man


Inght

Chelsea fans on Twitter making a big deal of Dembele following Chelsea on Instagram


Nasty133

>Chelsea fans on Twitter this is where you went wrong....


tarmon21

Any chance someone knows the pre-sale code for the Chelsea vs Charlotte tickets?


Reverse-Giraffe

Code for today's is minty. The code for Mondays is BLUES.


tarmon21

Thank you so much! I was able to get me and my dad tickets, seriously can't thank you enough


Stand_On_It

Is it on Ticketmaster? I think the Amex presale code is always like the Amex customer service telephone number, isn’t it?


Reverse-Giraffe

This looks like it's a Charlotte FC season ticket holders pre-sale.


Stand_On_It

Oh. Then no. Lol


bvsics

Hey lads, I’m a mid 20s guy from Australia who’s heading to the game tonight. I’ll be heading solo so I’m just wondering if there’s any pubs you can just rock up to and chat some shit? Keen to have a few beers before and get in some atmosphere hey 🤙🏻


PreguntoZombi

McGettigan's (formally Brogan’s) will have a fair few match day goers before and after the game


Wadayatalkinabeet_

The Wetherspoons at Fulham Broadway normally has a decent crowd and it’s always packed so easy to socialise


bvsics

Or if anyone else is heading in solo give me a buzz!


cherware

There was some talk yesterday in one of the threads about pre-season expectations and how this season should be judged. I was interested to see how pre-season points spreads compared to now, as we're almost at the end of the season. Here's how it looks for the top six. |**Team**|**Sporting Index (August 2021)**|**Spreadex (August 2021)**|**Spreadex (Today)**| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |Manchester City|86.25|86.75|92.75| |Liverpool|77.25|76.75|91.5| |Chelsea|75.75|76.75|75| |Tottenham Hotspur|59.25|59.25|70.5| |Arsenal|61.75|61.25|68| |Manchester United|74.25|74.25|59.5| Think the story of it is less that we underachieved, especially considering all that went on, and more that City and especially Liverpool just had incredible seasons (again).


blueseleven

I think I’m more excited for the lineup then the actual match today


typicalpelican

Given the decline of Kante, lack of wingbacks, and profile of our strikers, I really don't think we should build toward 343 next season. But I also have no clue what system we should go for.


lrzbca

4-3-3, for longer term getting Gallagher and Mount in same midfield will help us massively in-terms of creativity, goals and defence.


typicalpelican

That's my preferred system but need different wingers, doesn't suit Lukaku, Werner, or Havertz, and if the plan is Mount and Gallagher as 8/10s then what to do with Kovacic and need a strong CDM signing.


lrzbca

I mean long term, there will be dip in form and injures along the way. Kovacic, Gallagher and Mount will be rotated. If Jorginho leaves then we will be signing a DM. I’m interested in what kind of DM Tuchel picks, is it going to be De Jong, Rice or Tchouameni. Tuchel is speaking about complete rebuild, maybe there is a possibility that we sell Lukaku, Werner, Ziyech and replace them. Complete rebuilding will take couple of windows.


typicalpelican

Neither De Jong, Rice or Tchouameni have played their best football as a lone anchor. Rice is arguably most suited but also most unattainable. I think we have to be looking at completely different set of midfielders if we want to switch to 4-3-3. So we sort of need to decide that that's how we want to play and the trouble I see with that is that we have very little experience with it under Tuchel so that makes commiting to that direction somewhat challenging.


lrzbca

De Jong played his best football for Ajax in that position. Tchouameni and Rice played in two man midfield which more demanding than lone DM with two midfielders beside. Pep had to train Rodri into his role. We probably will never get all round player for every position, managers have to improve the players we signed. >Pep Guardiola on Rodri: "We've tried to help him to understand the game, especially what the holding midfielder has to do. Last season he moved too much. The holding midfielder has to be there, don’t move. Like if you drive a car and move to the back seat, you can crash...". "The holding midfielder sometimes need five touches, sometimes one, three and now he plays (with) this rhythm that helps our game. He’s been exceptional but like always I say to him, he can be better. It depends on him, but we’ll help him.” Klopp had to work with Fabinho too. We can’t just expect our signings to directly fit into team. Rice is expensive, Tchouameni wants Real Madrid and De Jong wants to stay at Barcelona. If we can find other quality DM’s for bargain prices, that would be great. We can’t keep swinging between one formation or other when we trying a rebuild. Tuchel has lot of experience with 4-1-4-1 and 4-2-2-2. I’m confident Tuchel will be able to figure it out once we sign suitable players.


typicalpelican

De Jong played like 99% of his minutes at Ajax in a pivot, usually next to Schone who was the holder.


lrzbca

You’re correct, I got that wrong.


nosmigon

Gallagher, Colwill, Mount, Reece, Broja, Chalobah, Gilmour, Cho?, Anjorin? Livramento? RLC? The future is bright. Man if we had an academy left back we could almost field a full academy team in the future


SeriousLads

Maatsen


nosmigon

Damn I completely forgot


MJ9695

Half of these players arent good enough if we want to be an elite team again


Seanxprt

I rather have an academy player as depth at minimal cost to the club instead of spending millions of pounds on the likes of Barkley, Bakoyoko, Drinkwater, Batshuayi etc. who genuinely aren't any better.


Stand_On_It

But they’re academy players and the best in the world!!


MJ9695

These fans want us to be an Arsenal level club lol, very few youngsters actually make it


nosmigon

Who are these fans? I'm excited about our youth. Of course I don't wanna field an entire youth team, I just like that we have a lot of exciting youngsters


MightyChunks

Are there any leaks or updates on next seasons home kit?


DoYouEvenShrift

Probably been in limbo since the sanctions.


treq10

This thought has been swirling around in my head for a while now: are clubs like Barcelona just too big to fail? Given all the financial mismanagement they've had they should realistically be in the gutter for the next couple of seasons. Yet they've still got players like Lewandowski (and half of our backline) clamouring to join them. Hell, Ferran Torres left a dominant City side to play in the Europa League on massively reduced wages. Don't want to sound like sour grapes, especially given that we _are_ still a top-tier club, but I really can't help but wonder about the idea of football 'royalty' propping up clubs that can get away with otherwise shocking financial management (Man United being another to an extent). Are they just an institution that's destined to stay at the top?


typicalpelican

When you are at the top for so long you really have to do a lot to completely fail. Players grew up with Barcelona as one of the pinnacles of football. They won't think about the last couple years, they will think about the image of the club they've had for their lifetime. Especially if they've still got CL and can offer some competitive wages then nothing really changes in terms of pull power.


blueseleven

Unfortunately I see City becoming like this too and how they took the model of massive spending and improved it further. Chelsea is a big club and always in the fight but City has done a better job of becoming a household or brand name and with their sustained league success, there is a lot of kids growing up knowing them as the best. We haven’t been consistent enough year over year to be able to accomplish that to the same extent. It sounds like a reach but I believe one of the big down falls is having an old and relatively smaller stadium, you want players even young ones to come in and be in awe and dream of playing there one day and ours doesn’t do that.


typicalpelican

This is totally anecdotal and I live in the US but I play a fair bit of extremely uncompetitive pickup in the park these days, to the point where we often let younger kids join us, maybe like 10-15 year olds...Occasionally I see Chelsea fans among the older crowd but the kids are all Man City fans. And they all idolize De Bruyne.


blueseleven

Now they have Haaland to keep that going. Until we have a star upfront we just won’t reach kids, there aren’t many getting excited for the work Kova does or a prime Kante. Reece and Mase might have some appeal but I don’t think on a true global level.


Muquadam

Having a star upfront in Drogba did it for me lol so I agree with this point.


OliwierCR

Goosebumps from that 30 min vid on the app


criminal-tango44

what do you guys think our transfer budget could be this summer? if we sell Jorgi, Alonso, Azpi, Werner/Ziyech we could get up to 80 million if Marina does her thing, then lets say our new owners invested 80-100mil, we could easily get Kounde for 60 + another defender for 40(Bremer? Kimpembe?) and Tchouameni + free Dembele or Raphinha for 25. sadly WHU want way too much for Rice so we'll probably see him play for Utd or City next year. that's a W transfer window overall imo considering we have Colwill, Conor, Broja and Maatsen coming back.


Stand_On_It

Dude Jorgi plus Werner would be $80m by itself, I would think. If not more.


criminal-tango44

Jorgi has 1year left on his contract and is 30, he's not going for more than 30 and even thats a stretch, we bought Werner for 60 - you think we're getting that back for him? i say 40 at best.


Stand_On_It

Yeah. I think we get over 40 for Jorgi and over 50 for Werner.


nosmigon

40 million rubles maybe


criminal-tango44

in what fucking universe


Stand_On_It

The only one we got, playa


Nasty133

>Raphinha for 25 I wish he was this cheap.


ADGinger

He is if they get relegated


Nasty133

Good shout. I hadn't seen the 25m release clause if relegated until just now. That would be a steal but it looks like Barca is leading the race for everyone.


ADGinger

I think though Barca would only go for him if Dembele leaves and in that case we’d be one of the favourites for Dembele


BadCogs

Bayern want Dembele.


DoYouEvenShrift

Excited for the inevitable melt down this sub will have when the lineup comes out and isn't comprised of 5+ academy players. Don't want to give up third place.


inspired_corn

Rewatching the Europa League final vs Arsenal and at the time it was an amazing game (and still is ofc) but when I watch it now I just feel so bad for Cech. I know he wanted to stay in London and Arsenal was his choice but he deserved a much better final appearance than getting spanked in a European final... really wish he'd spent his last days playing somewhere abroad and got the send off that his illustrious career deserved. I'm sure he doesn't care, he's won far bigger than the Europa league and he's Chelsea through and through. Just sad to see him like that.


malevolentintent

Nah, my man Cech went to that tin pot club to learn how not to run a club He was always the smartest in the room, literally. Think he was one of the highest rated in IQ tests in our club


UserNo69420

Can’t believe it’s already 10 years since the famous night in Munich, I have goosebumps every time I think about it.. the commentators shouting when Drogba scored.. I was 16 yo, watching it silently in my room because I was supposed to be sleeping to be ready for the school next day and I couldn’t help it and started screaming and crying when Drogba buried the final penalty and ran to celebrate with Petr Cech, the idol from my country. I will never forget this


Mourning-Woood

The only players I'm worried about finding replacements for are Rudiger and potentially Jorginho, the rest are replaceable, we already have some players on our books who'll slot right in, maybe even be an upgrade.


EazyMerq

To me, Jorginho is replaceable as well, he has always felt like a worse Fabregas to me.


sweetmercury

Jorginho is irreplaceable in this market, his experience and ability are definitely underrated by the fans. Imo, it would be a grave mistake to let him go before we phase in someone else into our midfield


luthfins

The worst version of Obi Mikel, not Fabregas


TimothyN

That's because you don't know much about his actual role on the pitch.


EazyMerq

Explain it to me.


onigramm

I do agree. I'd like us to replace one of Werner/Pulisic with Raphina or Dembele if that makes sense. That being said, we obviously need CBs and probably one DM...


bluesamuel

Today is my bday and I love how it’s basically a chelsea holiday lol


BadCogs

Happy Birthday, have a great time.


EazyMerq

Happy birthday! Mine is tomorrow!


bluesamuel

Thanks! Happy early bday!


Throwawayaway357

hopefully we can get Kounde and Rice asap, Bohley this is your chance to show that you are different from FSG, Glazers and Kroenke


peekingduck18

Rice for £150m (Hammers quoted price) and nothing else? You're certainly not getting Kounde after such an outlay, even if Boehly wants to make a splash.


inspired_corn

Not sure why people are still persisting with the idea that we're gonna sign Rice this summer. He's been given a "fuck off" price tag and we'd be stupid to pay it (which is why we won't) We'll go for him in 2023 most likely


Throwawayaway357

and thats why we should go for him so the situation like Haaland wont happen again. If we dont pay it, he will leave regardless in the future and it will only strengthen our rival


Nasty133

Pay an extra 50 mil this year because no one else will? That makes no sense. West Ham is in the driver's seat right now since he's still got 3 years left on his deal, next year the price will likely go down as it becomes even more clear that he's not going to re-sign. It doesn't matter if there are more bidders next year since West Ham will pretty much have to sell if they want to capitalize on Rice at all.


pervertedwatcher

Neither Rice nor Haalsnd are must get players(Especially the former)and we can easy do without them.


inspired_corn

"Situation like Haaland" Idek what this means... he was never coming here. If you seriously think we should spend £150m on Declan Rice this summer then I don't know what to tell you... We have far more pressing matters to spend that money on. Why is it a given that he'll go to a rival next summer? In a bidding war we should win seeing as he apparently is desperate to play for us.


dryduneden

We should be staying as far away from Rice as possible this season


Throwawayaway357

why? So he can join our rivals like Haaland?


dryduneden

Because dumping 100 million into a player when there's tons of holes in the squad and we have to be frugal is a ridicolous idea. Especially his contract is running out in a few years time


Throwawayaway357

I never said we should only spend 100m this summer? Bohley should show his ambition that he is willing to compete with Man City and co to spend over the top to bring us back the Premier League


dryduneden

Its 100m or bust for Rice. West Ham have made that clear. And as I've explained, that's ridicolous to pay in our situation


Throwawayaway357

If we are willing to spend like 300m this transfer window, with some sale of the surplus players like Werner we can more than enough to overhaul the squad in one go.


dryduneden

>If we are willing to spend like 300m this transfer window, We aren't and we won't. >we can more than enough to overhaul the squad in one go. Doubtful


Throwawayaway357

> We aren't and we won't. why shouldnt we?


dryduneden

I mean it'd be cool but its clear that's just not how we're gonna be run.


HippoChrissy

Frankfurts nike kits were so clean and simple. Wish we'd stop with the abstract bollocks. I know Nike tend to use templates and last year it was the stripes that don't line up under the arms but even next years looks dreadful, just a rehash of the Conte PL win shirt.


CeleryAndSausages

Next season’s kit is great, and looks nothing like the 16/17 kit.


onigramm

Agreed. I fancy those turquoise accents. Nice update imo.


endlessxcircle

Wouldn't quite go as far as calling it "great" personally, but it's at least an improvement on this season's home. Still ain't a high bar being set though. The worst part is we're only like half way through the 15 years that were agreed upon with Nike.


CeleryAndSausages

Personally like it a lot more than most of the Adidas kits we’ve had.


endlessxcircle

Early Adidas was good before tapering off. They still had more hits than misses though, Nike haven't even come the party.


Baisabeast

Castore have been making brilliant kits They’re showing up everyone


endlessxcircle

Joma also make a few nice ones like the Atalanta and Torino kits.


HippoChrissy

Sorry meant the year after, bar the collar


CeleryAndSausages

So not the same then? And the 17/18 kit is the best we’ve had in decades.


HippoChrissy

It's very similar at least no? section off the chest and the arms? But the collar looks shite imo. Agreed its nice as it's simple but again feel like the bar has been set very low especially in recent times, even more especially with the nike kits.


dennisixa

takeover to complete this week?


Ahm_peng

Yes it will. But also yes it will be completed next week if you asked that.


ThePraetorianGuard92

I really do hope the new owners sort out a new contract for Kovacic asap. This doesn’t feel like a problem atm but it will do if nothing is sorted out by next summer, his contract runs out in 2024 so we could be facing another situation like we’ve seen this season.


Theoneinblu

Kovacic, Mount and Reece. We don't need anymore headache on the contract situations


elliot_glynn

With some time to reevaluate, this FA cup L doesn’t hurt as much as the previous two; Liverpool are a far superior team with better depth, and are far further ahead in their development. Raising our game and going toe to toe with them four times in one season shows that Chels can compete with the best of them, we just need to be able to demonstrate this over the course of a season.


BasedGodLegacy

>this FA cup L doesn’t hurt as much It’s our second domestic cup final loss of the year. It’s the third FA cup final we’ve lost in a row now. It should hurt far more.


inspired_corn

No shame at all in taking this very good Liverpool side to pens. Leicester are a good team too and considering we had a CL final to play (that we won) I don't think you'll find many fans overly upset about that one. It's the Arsenal loss that's actually terrible, they finished 8th that season and some of their players were gash (seriously look at their team for the final ffs). Awful stuff to lose to that.


Toothache79

>this FA cup L doesn’t hurt as much as the previous two It still hurts because they didn't dominate us or get the better of us but they simply kept their cool in both penalty shoot outs (first it was Kepa's awful penalty in the League Cup...then it was Azpi/Mount in the Fa Cup). The other Fa Cup loss hurt less because Leicester are a good side on their day and I don't mind seeing a former Chelsea coach (Brendan Rodgers) win a trophy, he's had a solid career to date.


inspired_corn

A bit has been made by our fans about Tuchel saying we can't catch up to Liverpool and that we need to "rebuild". Some people seem to think this is defeatist or something. But the reason Tuchel says we need a rebuild is because he's acutely aware of how poorly built our squad is. It's a mishmash of different manager's signings often recruited randomly and not fitting together well at all. How is he supposed to use that to compete with Klopp and Pep who have both had 5 years and 10+ transfer windows to perfect their squads (and they're not done yet). Tuchel's only just getting started, we've got a foundation but that's not enough to compete with those other 2 machines. We'll need 3/4 successful transfer windows in a row to start getting to the point where we can compete *over a 38 game league season* (we've already shown we can match them both in one off KO games) Honestly our squad hasn't been "good" since probably around Mourinho's time. Since then we've pretty much just papered over cracks through great managerial performances (Conte/Tuchel) and Eden Hazard. Once you accept that then the idea of a rebuild becomes a lot more palatable.


RegressionToTheDream

This is why I can't stand this sub tbh. Differences in opinion are one thing, but now we won the PL and CL with a "not good" squad because of "great managerial performances". We won because of a lot of reasons, both those titles, but you're putting it all (or even most) on the manager instead of the people who literally did it. That pl title was won because of good management yes, but also because we had ngolo fucking kante bossing the midfield and allowing us to play a style that would never have succeeded without him doing the work of 1.5 people. We won because hazard was maybe the best player in the PL that season, and because cesc, Costa, matic, azpi, Marcos, Cahill... all having good to great seasons depending on the person. The manager is a part of the team. They are not the whole team. Yall act like they're controlling them like fifa or something. This sub is ridiculous with how yall talk about managers and I'm sad this season is ending but I'll be happy to be off this sub for a while and maybe I'll not come back. The way yall view football is madness. Please read a book by a former manager and learn about the job they do or something.


inspired_corn

They all had good seasons ofc, but no one is gonna say with a straight face that that Conte team would compete for the title against Klopp’s Liverpool or Pep’s City are they? The level has very clearly been raised. Our squad has been shit for years, that much is obvious to anyone paying attention. And I resent the accusation that I need to “read a book” about football. Not that it matters but I’ve read most of the big ones and I’m working through a top 50 list, maybe you should try reading them?


RegressionToTheDream

Irrespective of all this - What's your favorite football book, I'm looking for recs. Honestly, I just can't stand the way your comment makes it seem like you think about football. Same goes for most of the sub. The manager is a part of the team, but even thr most successful managers in history freely admit that the players are more important. That's what I was hoping you'd pick up from one of the many books by a former manager. This sub often acts like the manager is the most important part of the club, and given our clubs history I honestly can't fathom having that take. I also really dislike the way that mentality manifests into extreme negativity about the players and culminates in many of our players having dedicated haters within our "fan" base. Of course, I know this is mostly an online phenomenon, and that's a huge reason why I'll probably stop coming to this site. Unfortunate for me, I don't live in London and I came here to interact with chelsea fans, only to find this is a place for board members to argue about which players are chelsea quality, and which should be sold. I just want to support them and enjoy my favorite team. Probably best doing that on my own and just watching the games with friends.


Fawkes_91

Yeah, seen some very odd reaction to TT telling the truth. Right now, we are sanctioned and unable tomake any progress on new players, our entire defence is leaving/wants to leave except a 37-year-old, our midfielders are on their last year of contract and the CB situation of this year threatens to repeat. And oh, we stil sanctioned and don't officially have the new owner yet.


Wheel94

Tuchel just being honest Scott has to go rather keep Lukaku for another 4 years then Scott tbh.


ScorpiaHP

Hope we go to a back 4 for the final two games, try to be more offensive. Thinking of a lineup like this for Leicester - Mendy Reece, Chalobah, Rüdiger, Hall RLC, Kovacic, Mount Ziyech, Lukaku, Pulisic Alonso and Azpi might be off in the summer, we'll probably know by their reactions after the Watford game so I'd like to see them play in that game as a farewell. Especially Azpi. I've not really kept up with Hall in the academy but I'd like to give him a chance, we've barely used academy players this season - good chance for Vale to get minutes as well with Werner, Havertz, CHO all injured. Nice to sit back and enjoy the games for once but would really love to see us play more offensively with a few academy debuts at that - as well as an emotional farewell or two (Azpi, Rüdiger).


DarkLordOlli

If we're going to play a LB from the academy, it should be Dylan Williams. He already played senior football for Derby and actually plays the position. Hall is a midfielder. I'd like to see Vale and perhaps Soonsup-Bell start against Watford. I'd really like minutes for Charlie Webster too. Third place to secure vs Leicester first so I expect pretty much the full strength side.


ScorpiaHP

Has Dylan Williams trained with the first team yet though? I don't think we'll be seeing so many academy graduates but I'd definitely like to see Vale be given minutes in both games off the RW.


Unusual_Afternoon_88

No anchor, just vibes.


comrade_smores

Hall isn't a LB he's an 8