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_stone_age

Man, Sterling leaving means there's a lack of pace on the wings. Foden's quick but not as rapid as Sterling. Mahrez and Grealish aren't rapid either, same goes for Palmer. I'm not berating any of them, but having that direct and pacy winger is important.


Jazano107

Leao Pls tixi


ineed_somelove

Is there any solid news around silva? All i see is rumours and tier 3 reports


Patrickk_batemann

I would rather lose with Zina than win with the others.


ineed_somelove

With bernardo


Patrickk_batemann

If Bernardo wants to leave then he can leave. No point in getting scared of losing him at the end of each season.


wdunky

Sounds like Raphinia is likely to barcalona, wonder how this affects our Phillips attempts


Patrickk_batemann

50m for Raphinia 70m for Bernardo How are they even doing it? I know they signed a deal recently. But that shouldn’t be enough right?


The_Snollygoster

At this point just ignore all the 'Barca are in financial trouble, 1.5 billion debt' stuff. They have the connections to make anything work seemingly


Bayequentist

Really hope we will get Milinkovic-Savic instead of Kalvin-Phillips.


wdunky

How would he fit though aren't we at the cap for non GB players?


Bayequentist

We are selling Jesus and Zinchenko so they will free up some non-HG spots. Fernandinho is also gone. U21 academy lads like Palmer or McAtee don't take up any slots. I think we'd be fine with adding another non-HG players.


wdunky

Ahh yeah I kinda ignored the out goings, however Alvarez and haaland will take up slots. And the new lb will take another. I'd just read about it being full which is why we needed Phillips as an Englishman.


Bayequentist

I'm not sure actually lol We can try to work it out from this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/MCFC/comments/v6fe4o/2022_summer_transfer_discussion_thread_0706/ Seems like we have 15 foreign players (including Jesus, Zinchenko, Haaland, Alvarez), so 1 foreign FB and SMS should still be good.


Binary_Voyager

I remember it felt pretty exciting when Pep first deployed the rotating false #9 strikerless system against united. After two seasons I'm glad it has come to an end. Interestingly I think Sterling is one of the players that struggled the most in that period and I really hope he doesn't leave now that we're back to playing with a striker. He is one of the best poachers in world football and I'm convinced he will get back to scoring goals for fun once drilled crosses into the box become a thing again next season.


_stone_age

People here underrating Cucurella a tad bit, he'd be great. Need to keep Zinchenko tho, 4 fullbacks is a must. Phillips an overpay but it seems like Pep really wants him. If Bernardo leaves, I wonder what our midfield structure would be like.


The_Snollygoster

I'm seeing ideas that we play a 4-2-3-1 presumably with the midfield duo being Rodri and Phillips with KDB in the hole, Foden to replace him once he ages out, Gundo as cover. I agree Cucu would be good but feels so awkward to be going after a third LB and not a RB, I think it's too early to shift Cancelo back to the right as Walker is older but hasn't actually shown any signs of that age yet. And if we sell Zinny then we're in the same position we are now, we simply replaced our backup LB. Which seems a little strange as LB is the position we have the most indirect cover for, Ake, Laporte can both play there and our best looking youth fullback imo is Esbrand. Whilst on the right we've used Stones and Fernandinho, neither of which had played there before. Plus I don't think it's wise to keep swapping Cancelo over, I think he needs consistent time in the same position, when he first started to play LB he wasn't great, now he's used to it, the couple times he's played on the right again, he hasn't been great. He can do it, he just needs time in the position and constantly asking him to plug the gaps and switch sides isn't the best utilization of him I think. But it is Pep, who can work miracles. Looking very long term this kind of makes sense to me, the fullback situation. But short term it's awkward, and we only have Pep for so long so I'm not keen on compromising the short term lately.


_stone_age

>I'm seeing ideas that we play a 4-2-3-1 presumably with the midfield duo being Rodri and Phillips with KDB in the hole, Foden to replace him once he ages out, Gundo as cover. My issue with this is we will be relying too much on KDB. Similar to the first half of 20/21, where most of the creativity and G/A came from him. >Plus I don't think it's wise to keep swapping Cancelo over, I think he needs consistent time in the same position, when he first started to play LB he wasn't great, now he's used to it, the couple times he's played on the right again, he hasn't been great. He can do it, he just needs time in the position and constantly asking him to plug the gaps and switch sides isn't the best utilization of him I think. I think that's the plan tbh. Buy Cucurella to shift Cancelo to the right. If we leave Zinchenko that'd be bad because we need 4 fullbacks. I like Cucurella a lot. Very comfortable in possession, very good defender. Capable of dropping into a back 3, similar to Walker. Let's see what Peo does!


The_Snollygoster

I think it'll be somewhat similar to now where one of the pivots will basically be a box-to-box player. I don't like Phillips for that role because he doesn't seem phenomenal going forwards but I can't see Pep compromising his philosophy of 5 across the attacking line and with how deep we push teams into their half it should be possible. Yeah I like Cucu too, I just don't see the downturn in Walker yet so it feels rushed.


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_stone_age

Idk if Grealish- KDB would work in midfield with Rodri as the DM.


Ihateithereandthere

I will forever be pissed Bravo conceded to Zlatan after making a mistake. Zlatan told him he needed new gloves before. At least we beat them tho.


HaalandsHome

Net spend fc fans start talking about wages. Remind them their club spent almost 30 years in the top three wage bills in the prem. And wonderfully they had a higher wage bill than us in our 17/18 100 point season. I’m enjoying pointing that out to a few people today.


02496sweet

Net spend fc lmao


AintNoGamerBoy

Your recent comments history was fun to look through haha


HaalandsHome

I just smoke weed, listen to music and point out hypocrisy on r/soccer. It’s a good time.


AintNoGamerBoy

Lovely pastime


blue5ertree

Ayyyy, now you’re talking my language


Binary_Voyager

The vitriol against City and Pep has weirdly worked out to our advantage. All it does is create an attitude of us vs them at the club. Pep looks more committed now than ever plus Nedum calling Kevin a city apologist was just hilarious.


Ihateithereandthere

Mansour needs to teach Barca a lesson by buying their club and liquidating it 😎 I’ve always liked espanyol anyways


Bayequentist

[Gavi rejects Barcelona contract offer, demands lucrative package worth up to €5 million](https://barcauniversal.com/gavi-rejects-barcelona-contract-offer-demands-lucrative-package-worth-up-to-e5-million/)


Binary_Voyager

They’ll just renegotiate. No way Barca let Gavi leave but maybe I’m giving them too much credit.


HaalandsHome

The only way I’d be able to accept losing silva is if we got someone like this in instead. Another young and insanely talented player. But that’s only if he wanted to go. I realise this is a nonsense dream though, before anyone points it out.


codespyder

We could easily afford that. I know he’s young and that would be more than Foden’s first contract after graduating from the academy, but he’s so fucking good.


wdunky

Should come here, pep just needs to guarantee walker doesn't shag his mum and I reckon he signs


ineed_somelove

Hahahahahah shittt. Im dying


XboxValentine

I remember watching u/esteemedkompany podcast on why haaland will be amazing for us, and probably off to a quick start, I agree with almost everything said and it’s discussed and justified well, so if anyone has any Haaland doubts, listen to it and then join the rest of us in the excitement.


aguer0

Does anyone follow the women's game? If so, do you know why there is such an outflow of players from the City squad?


chux4w

Not an expert on the womens game (or mens, to be fair), but I think there's more and more money going into it so more clubs can be competitive for good players.


riaan1364

There generally seems to be a much higher turnover for the women's game in general, with shorter contracts all round. This season there had been rumours about many of the players (and also the fans) being fed up with Gareth Taylor as manager, and I think that's a big reason for players leaving.


Tiki_taka27

Gundo extension if Silva leaves ?


Binary_Voyager

Maybe for one more season but unlikely imo. City are already after Philips and one of Grealish or Foden will likely transition to midfield next season.


wildinout2233

We’re signing Cucurella and getting rid of Zinchenko, just to have three fullbacks again 💀


Binary_Voyager

Not a problem if Aké sticks around so for LB it would be Cucurella/Cancelo/Aké and RB will be Walker/Cancelo/Stones?. The goal is to get a natural LB, not to have more options than we do already.


[deleted]

It is still a problem. We need 2 certified left backs and right backs.


Binary_Voyager

Given that we had no certified LBs for most of Pep’s tenure I think Cucurella is an improvement.


[deleted]

A minor one, if anything it's a stepback today for the benefit of tomorrow. Which isn't the worst thing, but zinny is already in the team and knows what's what It's a step back for cucurella to learn and adapt to us. . Regardless, we need 2 left and 2 right back


Binary_Voyager

He is a La Masia product. He’ll need very little adaptation most likely.


BeautifulCarp

I invite you to try my new text-only football discussion subreddit: r/talk_football I only made it today, so don't expect spectacular engagement just yet edit: text posts only :-)


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Text only?


BeautifulCarp

only text posts are allowed. no links or images or videos


[deleted]

The subs dead before it even began with that rule


BeautifulCarp

well do me a favour and steer clear then


[deleted]

Wont have to worry about that cos everyone else will anyway


BeautifulCarp

I'd rather no one than you mate


AintNoGamerBoy

While I believe Haaland would be an instant impact signing like Dias, there are some possible issues we could face (Trying to subvert expectations). Some i could think of: 1. Haaland struggles to adapt to new environment - Not just better defence or different country, he is an instant top earner of the squad, so very high expectations and could also affect player dynamics. 2. A new system - I assume Pep has an idea of how to setup exploiting Haaland's strengths. It could take some time for the players to work around coming from a season of mostly playing false 9 or the system to figure itself out. This could be complemented by the departure of some rumoured players. We do need to remember that we create so many chances in the first place because of an extra attacker in the build-up, and that will very much be expected of Haaland. However I do think Pep most likely will try to fit the player into the system instead of the other way around. Which one is the most likely? Or is there any other potential issues?


Jyuan83

No reason to fret over how pep will play him. He’s simply taking over the counterattacking role that Sane did so well when he was with us. We can expect to see a lot more cutbacks and crosses like in the good old days. To put it simply, haaland is stepping into Sanes role as a striker so instead of tracking back in his flank, he will most likely be lurking in the inside left channel which benefits city because for too long, we lack that counterattacking streak that used to terrorise our opponents back then.


Appropriate-Fun-9598

Even if Haaland struggles a bit adapting to a new system, hes precence alone creates so much space for others. Probably both City and Haaland will need to adapt a little to each other, but I do expect around 17-20 goals from him in the league.


Rick-Danger

Honestly I can't think of any good reason why Haaland would struggle to settle at City. In terms of moving country he was literally born here, so no problem there. In terms of the league he's built for the PL, massive, strong and rapid. Decent dribbler and passer too. The only possible problem I can think of is basically your second point, but even then I really don't think it'll be an issue beyond the first few games. Might take the whole team a bit at first to adapt to a new style of play. But ultimately, Haaland is gonna be fed chances by De Bruyne, Bernardo(pls), Mahrez, Foden, Grealish, Cancelo and Rodri. All while being coached by an all time great manager. How could that possibly not work? I mean I hope I'm not jinxing it but seriously, how could that not work? Haaland has proven to be a goal machine at every level in the Bundesliga, CL and internationally with an average Norway side. He will absolutely tear it up for us from day 1 I swear


AintNoGamerBoy

Now that you say it does seem like the attack will eventually work out, it's just a matter of when. There is no way it doesn't click, first purely because of the sheer quality and second you have the best puppeteer pulling the strings.


riaan1364

I think the new system will be peps true dream for football, long balls straight from Ederson to Haaland. No need to use substitutes, much lower risk of injury for the other players. Not to mention he can practically let his imagination run wild for the remaining nine spots as they won't be expected to do much in possession! On a more serious note, I do think the biggest struggle will be in terms of the system played, but they have the entire preseason together, so I think by the time the season starts, he'll at the very least have a good understanding of what's expected from him. I don't believe it'll take the squad too long to figure out if he gets the ball near the box he's probably going to score


BillehBear

Totally surprised to see a bunch of dippers malding in the Pep post on /r/soccer at the bottom of it So so shocked


Hurdfoy

Praying to god psg sign Phillips


wildinout2233

I wouldn’t mind PSG taking him off our hands


Gwyn-LordOfPussy

ikr I'd be super happy to miss out on him, I bet a huge part of the reason we prefer him over other targets is the homegrown status


wdunky

If alvarez comes good we will have 2 very different profile strikers. Massive upgrade from 0 last year. Be interesting to see if he does and how pep could utilise the mix n match of the beast that haaland is Vs the smaller player Alvarez is


chaosnova6

Looks like PSG are also trying to sign Phillips


Complex-Account-2064

Lads, I've found Voldemort singing the Haaland song :) https://youtu.be/bOr7rG7hle0


AintNoGamerBoy

I love the internet


XboxValentine

I love democracy.


ibridoangelico

Having so many major changes in one off season is really scaring me. I still hope for the best, but my paranoia and ignorance has me feeling like things could easily go south if we’re not careful


The_Snollygoster

Yeah it's gone from a window where we can reinvigorate and strengthen our depth to a real overturn in a lot of players, it's a lot of change if all the rumored things happen. Zinny, Bernardo, Sterling, Jesus, Fernandinho all leave, need replacing plus a new striker and we're the team famous for needing a season to get used to the system.


surf_tacos

When are the away kits going to be released? Will we know Haalands number by then? Happy Saturday all.


soul-of-sunday

Don't expect the away kits atleast till the start of preseason


fuskarn_35

My guess is we are waiting for jesus' departure to give haaland #9


Iswaterreallywet

I'm disappointed we have not signed Enzo Fernandes yet


Gwyn-LordOfPussy

I'm pretty sure we are passing up on him, seems Benfica bound according to the rumours so there's at least a 50% chance he still plays for us in the future I believe.


Iswaterreallywet

I'm in favor of this route


Gwyn-LordOfPussy

It's a good place to develop for sure, but considering right now he has a 20m euro release clause I'd take him now. Benfica will probably ask 80M in a couple seasons.


Iswaterreallywet

100% agree


wdunky

If only he was English right. At least that seems to be the prevailing reason we are in for Philips over all the others


ACJ_96

Yeah, nothing to do with the fact he's a solid, tried and tested premier league level player and was fundamental in the England team that almost won the Euros. It's only the fact he's English that interests us /s


wdunky

I get all this, I just think that enzo or nunes sound like more interesting options with a higher ceiling. However the balance is tipped by Philips nationality. Don't get me wrong he's clearly a good player.


ACJ_96

>I just think that enzo or nunes sound like more interesting options with a higher ceiling We need a rotation DM option, I think you're massively underestimating just how difficult that position is, especially in the prem. You're suggesting 2 kids both of whom play outside of Europe's top 5 leagues are better options to walk into our squad and start matches in CM whenever needed? No chance mate, they're not ready, and even if they had the future potential to play that role it'd take 1 or 2 seasons to settle in, neither would hit the ground running like Phillips (who knows the league) has the potential of doing. We don't have time to give them to settle into a new league and system, we need a reliable rotation option ASAP. Phillips on the other hand already has a significant head start over those two, he knows the prem and has worked under Bielsa, his qualities would translate well to us and under Pep he'll only improve (if he puts the work in of course, which I'm sure he would).


Xsipkis

f*** letting players leave on their own terms. I mean, in most cases, yeah, but if this club cares about UCL or winning major trophies, no way should we even **entertain** parting ways with bernardo.


Gwyn-LordOfPussy

We let Sane go and we haven't looked back. Bernardo is great but KDB is greater, Foden and Grealish might take a step up if Bernardo leaves and McAtee also gets more chances if we don't sign a replacement (I still believe Grealish was that replacement)


The_Snollygoster

We didn't let Sane go though, he ran his contract down and we couldn't convince him, we had no leverage. Bernardo still has 3 years left.


Pure-Negotiation-900

I agree with Peps POV. If they don’t want to be there let them go. It’s best for everyone. But you have to get value for every player.


HufflepuffEdwards

Disagree. You have two options, either do something to make him happy to stay, or let him go for a fair price. Do you think he'd still run like a madman and give his all for the club every single game if he was forced to stay somewhere he didn't want to be? He wouldn't be the midfielder you'd want to keep.


The_Snollygoster

Then you do something to make him happy to stay. Imo. He's on £150k per week, which isn't insane, offer him £250k, maybe even more. Work out ways he can go back to Portugal often etc I know it's not easy but for players of his quality you at least try \*everything\* before you throw the towel in.


Trickster_Tricks

I highly doubt the club don't do anything to try and persuade them to stay. If Bernardo wanted to leave, chances are he and the club have discussed the matter to great length.


The_Snollygoster

It's difficult to say because obviously we don't get to look behind the scenes. But often it doesn't feel like it, sometimes it feels like as soon as a player says he would leave Pep gives the green light for them too. I suppose we haven't had many, at least not any we had particular control over, Sane had run down his contract, same with Garcia, we saw Torres as a good cash injection so it feels like Bernardo is the first time we have an unhappy player who still has a relatively long contract wanting to leave. I guess we will see what happens, but I just don't want to lose him, obviously.


Ihateithereandthere

I mean spurs were able to keep Kane