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ProFootballTalk on Twitter: As Green Bay 2021 over-under win totals disappear from places like DraftKings, PointsBet, and Westgate, multiple sports books reportedly believe Aaron Rodgers will be retiring next week

ProFootballTalk on Twitter: As Green Bay 2021 over-under win totals disappear from places like DraftKings, PointsBet, and Westgate, multiple sports books reportedly believe Aaron Rodgers will be retiring next week

The_one_who_SAABs

Let me know when something happens


subsonic46

Or, maybe, just maybe they’re pulling the lines because whether he’s there or not is going to cause a massive shift in where the money is going. It’s not that they think he’s going to retire, just that they don’t know what’s going to happen and don’t want to guess wrong and lose millions. Casinos don’t gamble, bettors do.


PackFanInVegas

Exactly this. It’s all to cover their ass.


dieselteach

And it's bullshit. They shouldn't be allowed to stack the odds in situations like this. They are the experts and should be able to still win over the amateurs.


DanBrino

Not without information. Sportsbooks base their business on having ALL the information. They're not gambling. You are. As op said.


GreenBombardier

Exactly. Rodgers doesn't show for the first week/week and a half, they probably list us at 6-8 wins. Within that first week and a half a ton of people hammer the over, Rodgers shows and their numbers have to take a 6 win jump. They don't want to risk having a week and a half of people getting a great bet over on them and either 1) take a PR hit by refunding the tickets due to a big swing like Rodgers showing up (not a gambler, not sure if that kind of provision is built into the bet) or 2) a few people who bet big on the Packers over 6-8 wins laugh all the way to the bank and that's bad for business.


DanBrino

>not a gambler, not sure if that kind of provision is built into the bet That's the thing. They always want to make sure they're on the money. So the provision would be that they don't put out odds until they know if one of the most impactful players in league history will be taking snaps. If they assumed he was, and he's not, the under is easy money. If they assumed he wasn't and he was, the over is easy money. They're not trying to give easy money. So under no circumstances would they put odds on win totals without that info.


subsonic46

If casinos couldn’t stack the odds, there would be no more casinos. I’m no gambling expert, but I suspect that odds makers would have the Packers around 11 wins with Rodgers and probably around 5-6 wins with Love. There’s just no way to compensate for such a huge difference, and as I and others on this thread have said, if they base the line on either possibility then they are essentially gambling and taking an enormous risk.


Bobd_n_Weaved_it

Stacking the odds is exactly what odds makers do. What?


Interesting-Archer-6

Why is that bull shit? If they determine that's the best business decision for them, so be it. They aren't obligated to have that line up and no one is entitled to being able to bet on it


Tinmanred

Yep this is why I locked in our division odds at even and Super Bowl at +1700. Cuz I’m confident he’ll be back at least this year


Scro0pyN0opers

I work in a major Strip casino and talk with the sportsbook guys a lot. This is exactly it. Sportsbooks don't like major uncertainty and they shut down betting lines on stuff a lot more often than people think.


fuarkingtonz

Rodgers was working out with Bakh recently according to his story. Not so sure he’s planning on retiring.


ikisstitties

clay matthews was there too, so what does that say?


jhalldor

FO is bringing back Matthews to start repairing "how people left the building" obviously /s


CassandraVindicated

I heard they were only bringing back his hair.


nbyone

I don’t think he was planning on retiring forever. He’s pulling a Carson Palmer. Retire until he gets traded.


BlueBadger99

That would be pretty lame and way over the top tbh. He hasn’t had it anywhere near as bad as Palmer did.


WanderingTrees

He's one of the highest paid players in the NFL. And was given an expensive extension. He's also on an amazing team that almost went to the super bowl as well. He's surrounded by talent and a great o-line. I'm tired of his antics. I'm a Packers fan, not an Aaron Rodgers only fan. The way he's been fucking around and giving cryptic messages immediately after the NFCC loss has been stupid.


BlueBadger99

I’m honestly not happy with either side. An elite QB is different from other players, it’s a long term partnership between the QB and the organization. Gute should’ve managed that relationship much better and had the awareness to recognize that things were going south with Aaron. He should’ve communicated better and kept 12 in the loop on things. It’s a big mistake. However, Rodgers has been super passive aggressive about this whole thing. He acted all chill and at peace during the season with McAfee and it’s clear that he was actually furious and building a grudge the entire time. Then the news drops and he acts super coy, avoiding saying much of anything…meanwhile his fiancé and her mom are RTing Stephen A rants about how Aaron wants to leave because he feels so mistreated. Like dude, we know the deal. Any non delusional Packers fan isn’t buying the act anymore. He has handled this poorly and it will tarnish his Packers legacy in the eyes of a lot of fans. I will always appreciate him, it’s been an awesome ride, but I definitely don’t view him the same way I used to after all of this


PomeloHorror

Why would you expect Rodgers to bring up the ‘truth’ to fans and the media or Pat McAfee? That’s ridiculous.


BlueBadger99

No, but maybe don’t put on a false act about being all zen with that “beautiful mystery” stuff lol


eazye123

As if everything that has unfolded and his lack of communication about what the fuck he wants hasn’t been lame enough.


SlamminCleonSalmon

He's literally acting like a moody teenage girl arguing with her boyfriend. "What's wrong?" "If I have to explain it, then we should break up"


JWOLFBEARD

You don’t know that. He’s just not telling the annoying mother-in-law media about the internal discussions.


wolley_dratsum

Yup, I would not be on Rodgers side if he did that


DueSheepherder2207

I don’t care about getting downvoted, if bro doesn’t want to be here then ship him out. Will not be a productive season otherwise


fkndiespaceship

Didn’t he not wanna be there last year and win MVP or was he just a bit disgruntled? Sorry I’m a ravens fan just lurking to get some insight on the situation.


turbopro25

If you find anything out let us know too 🤣


JWOLFBEARD

This could be carried over from last year’s issue with the draft.


fkndiespaceship

Yeah I know he was mad ab the draft. Just didn’t know actually how much worse it had gotten. Sorry y’all gotta go through this QB turmoil, shit is annoying af for a true fan.


CassandraVindicated

All of this has happened before; all of this will happen again. This is pretty much how Favre left town. There was more drama with Favre, but it's starting to look the same. I honestly thought having been through that and handling it so well, the same wouldn't happen with Rodgers. I'll believe it when it happens.


JWOLFBEARD

Hah yeah it’s ridiculous. I really think it’s somewhere in the middle of all of the storylines. I expect Rodgers to play, but not be happy with the front office.


GreatCaesarGhost

That seems like the most likely outcome.


kyleb402

That's where I'm at. I'll be thrilled if he comes back, but I'm a Packers fan. If he doesn't want to be here then trade him, I'm not going to lose my mind about it.


tclupp

It does nothing for us to trade him now. Trade him at the draft. And does this even make sense on his part? He could have opted out and made more money. Or play the year since a trade now is unlikely, and a trade next year looks inevitable. Is things really that bad, to refuse to play on a loaded team and have another legit chance at a 2nd ring?


kyleb402

The only way it makes sense is if he doesn't believe they won't trade him.


Big_Truck

Getting 2 or 3 firsts “does nothing”? Really? Getting multiple R1 picks would set GB up beautifully for the next iteration of the roster. If Love is the guy, you have a TON of picks to load the roster. If Love is not good, then you have a TON of picks to move up and get a QB. Rodgers will command at least two R1 picks, plus likely a third pick TBD (no lower than R3). That is not nothing. That is a really nice package of assets to give the Packers a lot of flexibility.


tclupp

It does nothing for greenbay to trade him **now** I'd rather take another run at a ring. Then at the draft, get as much as possible while knowing exactly where the picks will be.


Big_Truck

Sure. But if Rodgers truly isn’t going to play, then the choice is a haul of picks or… nothing. Will be interesting to see this clear up over the next month or so.


tclupp

If he doesn't play, trade him next year still applies. Rodgers doesn't have any leverage to force a trade today. It's inevitable that he will be traded next year, but not before than. So at this point, he should give up, get his money this year, and try and make another run with this team. There is a lot of pieces on this team. They have a shot. Him being upset and all, yet possibly throwing away one of his best shots yet at a 2nd ring makes no sense. I expect him to be back soon. Even if it's the last dance


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that's cool, but he can ride the pine this year, and we can ship him out when we know where the picks are


kyleb402

Exactly. I don't buy the idea that his value will go down if he sits a year. Denver will pony up after they finish third in their division at best again.


JBOOGIE619

You're 100% correct, Rodgers has the same agent who helped Palmer fake retire to get out of the Bengals...They're pulling this move


kingz_n_da_norf

Do you think he would risk his legacy? I mean, this will be something that stains him and not just from salty cheaseheads , all NFL fans


fuarkingtonz

Damn.


jubjub2184

If he does this I hope he sits his ass on the couch all year long and doesn’t get traded til before the draft


TheAnimalHD

Or ever


ChesterMcGonigle

That doesn’t mean anything. He was in Wisconsin for the Bucks game six and him and Bakh are really good friends. I don’t doubt for a second that he’ll temporarily retire to get out of Green Bay. I’m not familiar with the details of his contract, but if we can get much more for him by cutting him loose this season as opposed to next, we should probably do that. I’m over it at this point. Let’s get Love rolling and see if he can be something. We’re still pretty stacked on the O side of the ball so maybe we can still get to the postseason if Love isn’t totally incompetent.


TheAnimalHD

Are you sure he was there I never saw any pics of him


TheyLiveGlasses

They snuck him in and out. What they do with the surprise guys in the Royal Rumble.


GreatCaesarGhost

We get much more value by trading him after this season. It would be a terrible business decision to trade him before this season. And temporary retirement just tolls his contract, so that’s not a real solution for him.


imagine-a-boot

Maybe trying to look good for an upcoming entertainment career? Just trying to look at all the angles.


02K30C1

He really wants to host Jeopardy


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Can it just be Tuesday already? I'm so over the nonsense.


Nofnvalue21

Fuck you, I need my weekend


SlamminCleonSalmon

Ironically, my weekend starts on Tuesday lol.


X4b_Zissou

Vikings fan and I saw the post because I follow all NFC North sub Reddit’s to be knowledgeable of the entire division, so I’m not here to start shit. But curious what the relevance of Tuesday is?


clintlockwood22

Wednesday is the start of training camp so he’d have to arrive in Wisconsin by Tuesday (people are watching all the airports and his house)


X4b_Zissou

Gotcha. Thanks. I’m also a Reds fan and a Devin Booker fan so take solace in knowing Wisconsin sports has kicked me in the dick repeatedly the last few weeks.


clintlockwood22

You chose a really rough trio. Lo siento pal


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I was thinking Tuesday was the start of camp instead of Wednesday because calendars are hard, but thanks for the cover.


CassandraVindicated

He should come in by submarine.


sportsfan128

Favre would be so proud of him


Chickn-Sandwich

Favre admittedly hit his head a lot. He should still remember though... when this was him and the team had to plan things without him. Same scenario... different players.


packhawk2689

Okay I'm just drained. I'm so tired of this story.


feloniusmonk

Am I the only one that thinks Love could be special? I’m sick of this Favre 2.0 drama. Don’t get me wrong, Rodgers is/was amazing, but the fucking Ross and Rachel shit with him and GB is exhausting. Gute was on a break!!!


Thug4Less

Really about to pull a Carson Palmer because we cut Kumerow


JAdoubleWHY

Relax. We don’t know why he’s doing this. It’s all just been a bunch of speculation


eazye123

Honestly…Fuck it. Take the draft picks and move on.


SlamminCleonSalmon

Seriously, if he's willing to go this far over hurt feelings then fuck him, on to the next one.


thebottle

Huh? Rodgers doesn't owe you or the organization anything... it's the other way around, don't be a bootlicker.


SlamminCleonSalmon

You bowing down to Rodgers doesn't make you any better or worse than any other fan.


thebottle

When did I bow down to him? Don't project your booticking ways onto me.


edcline

You don’t seem to understand what bootlicking means


thebottle

A bootlicker is someone that is willingly servile and noncritical of a power. You keep missing son. Want to try again?


edcline

How is running a business and (allegedly) not taking input related to enforcing strict obedience at the expense of personal freedom? He has the ability to speak to the truth of the situation, to sign an extension, to not and retire or do anything he wants. Not authoritarian try again buckaroo.


thebottle

I'm glad you just looked up what the base definition of authoritarian means... and of course you resorted to semantics... now look up authoritarian leadership in companies. Lmao, do I need to guide you through everything?! Hey buddy, make sure to drink 4 pints of water today, I don't want you passing out while I'm educating you.


Bandwagon__21

It's about respect


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tHe DiSrEsPeCt


wolley_dratsum

CTE is rough


steve599

Anybody announce anything yet? I’ll believe it when I see it.


Gway22

“Betting sites take down Russel Wilson destination bets, signifying trade to the Bears is imminent.” The trade odds are dwindling fast everyday and people are hammering on the return to GB bet so they’re sweetening the retirement odds to get people off of that


allie131

They pulled them when Shefty first leaked the news too. Put them back when all of the for sure trades turned out to be lies.


yeetdootz

What a nightmare.


effingthingsucks

It was also a done deal that he was traded to Denver.


allie131

True or not this is just fing annoying. The Rodgers shit had gone away (well quieted to a dull roar) and then suddenly WI has something else to talk about and celebrate and suddenly all the news is negative (mostly regurgitated) Packers crap again. Just let us have a couple days to celebrate media before you decide to try to bring us down again. The cynic in me thinks they are all pissed that not only were they way fing wrong about Giannis staying Mil but he gave them the ultimate finger by having a top 10 finals performance and winning the championship. Just because none of these talking heads think WI is worth a damn doesn't mean they should continue to rain on our parade. Ok rant over


stephersms

Holy shit, read the article. It isn't a conspiracy against Wisconsin teams, its all about people betting Rodgers will retire. Not one single on or off the record source that says he will retire. It's just a write-up about betting markets. Maybe they're right? Maybe they're wrong? Either way they're betting on something. I'm actually kinda pissed so many people upvoted you because that means 20ish people didn't read the fucking article.


allie131

First of all I did read it. Second of all I am allowed to be annoyed by the timing of it all. You didn't need to be rude because I wish all of this had just waited a couple of dang days. Also why don't you blame the actual people responsible for misunderstandings and not the general public? The news media knows 75% of people don't care to or have the time to read all articles they know they read the headlines and react off those. So writing Vegas believes Rodgers will retire and sending that notification out to the world means people are going to think that and not well Vegas doesn't want to take a bath if Rodgers retires so they pulled the line. I immediately knew what it meant even with the misleading headline doesn't mean everyone did and again I am allowed to have my feelings. How often does one of your favorite teams win a championship? If you are me it has happened a grand total of 4 times across 3 sports. I am frustrated that this time even the day of the Bucks winning the media was trying to create Rodgers drama by rehashing news we knew 3 months ago. They know what they are doing period.


WhatAHeavyLifeWeLive

It’s not all about WI. Packers nation much bigger


allie131

I am well aware just like I am aware not all Packer fans are Bucks fans. For example I loath the Brewers. But in general there is a ton of cross over between the fan bases. It just feels like this year the media is determined that all our stars want out. Like I said in my original rant it is very possible Aaron does want out but it just would have been nice if they had let all the confetti get cleaned off the streets of Mil before they started speculating again.


myballz4mvp

Oh snap. Personally, I'd pack Gute's bags myself and drive him to the airport to keep Rodgers and extend Adams.


chucknorris10101

It's not gute, it's Murphy


nexttimemakeit20

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/04/10/mark-murphy-denies-telling-aaron-rodgers-dont-problem/3431957002/ >“It’s ridiculous. It is 100 percent, patently false," Rodgers told the "Wilde and Tausch" show on ESPN Wisconsin. "So it’s either he made that crap up, or what he would probably do as a writer is say, this is my source’s problem. He told me something. I talked to Mark last week, and I said, ‘Mark, did you tell somebody about the conversation?’ He goes, ‘That’s ridiculous.’ And I said, ‘Because that’s not what happened.’ And he told me, ‘Yeah, of course that’s not what happened.' **We had a great conversation like we always do**.’”


Helloooboyyyyy

A 2019 article? Lol


Nofnvalue21

Whoa, bro... you're killing the narrative


ptensen12

How are you so sure it's Murphy?


BlueBadger99

Because Murphy is apparently some sort of Palpatine figure, ruling with an iron fist and constantly working to tear the team down lol Seriously, I’ve seen people say this stuff for years and there’s never been any evidence. The one thing Murphy is definitely guilty of is occasionally putting his foot in his mouth


ptensen12

Haha that's what I was thinking. Everyone is so quick to point fingers, but we really don't have a single clue of what is happening still.


BlueBadger99

Things are rough right now, everybody is on edge. I’m frustrated too tbh, but we’ll get more info soon enough


chucknorris10101

It's Murphy because he let the team wallow for years under Ted... the org cared more about titletown small business empire than the franchise on the field


BlueBadger99

Wallow seems pretty dramatic


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BlueBadger99

I was making light of the Murphy conspiracies, not saying that’s what he was actually doing


OhNoMyLands

Well I’m just just a clown


BlueBadger99

Oh you’re fine dude


foxfor6

Has Murphy ever said anything in a positive way about Rodgers the last few years? Not that I can think of. What if your bosses boss did that to you, and you were one of the higher performing people in your company? You probably wouldn't want to stay. Lefluer has said positive things about Rodgers. Gute maybe not as much but at least said they "want him for the future". Murphy hasn't said anything like that. Yes the goal of the team is to win a SB every year but it's also a business. If Rodgers leaves the economy is going to go down in GB. Rodgers brings in millions of dollars to GB. If the packers had a real owner we probably would not be in this situation. 27 other teams would do nearly anything to get Rodgers as their starting QB, that means something.


nexttimemakeit20

https://thegamehaus.com/nfl/mark-murphy-packers-are-committed-to-aaron-rodgers-in-2021/2021/05/03/ >“This is an issue that we have been working on for several months. Brian Gutekunst, Matt LaFleur, and I have flown out on several occasions to meet with Aaron. We are very much aware of Aaron’s concerns and have been working with him (and his agent Dave Dunn) to resolve them. **We remain committed to Aaron in 2021 and beyond. He is not only a tremendously talented player but has developed into a true leader for us. Aaron’s relationship with Matt and the other offensive coaches has propelled us to the brink of the Super Bowl in two straight years. We look forward to competing for another Super Bowl championship with Aaron as our leader.**” Murphy said confidently in a public statement.


Bandwagon__21

I cant tell with their 2020 draft choice that they felt their were on the "brink" of a superbowl.


MichaelXI

Murphy is the guy that publicly called Rodgers a "complicated fella" in the middle of all of this. At the minimum he's just inept. I think people point to Murphy because this seems have to built up for years now, before Gute took over as GM.


ptensen12

To copy u/BlueBadger99 "Seriously, I’ve seen people say this stuff for years and there’s never been any evidence. The one thing Murphy is definitely guilty of is occasionally putting his foot in his mouth"


OhNoMyLands

If Rodgers is so offended by that statement he’s not emotionally capable of running a team.


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he was quoting Ted Thompson....


OhNoMyLands

Yeah and I’m saying it’s not an offensive statement.


packhawk2689

Man, Shailene really hates Wisconsin


allie131

Let's not start playing that game. Blaming the woman in his life is just lame. Even if she is asking him to get out of here it is still his choice and his actions.


Chickn-Sandwich

Well, it certainly isn't Hollywood. Getting her own personalized pontoon boat probably wasn't in her future plans.


zooropeanx

Maybe she can be a guest on the Mantowoc Minute. That will change her mind.


Chickn-Sandwich

Yeah.. classy! I was surprised when danica set up house in Green Bay and would shop in town. But she's from Wisconsin. This one probably sees camping as getting the cheaper hotel room.... I don't think she's going to like Green Bay.


SMinnGoph

If my memory serves correctly she has spent months living in campers in the Dakotas trying to stop the oil pipeline project go thru native land. I think she actually likes the outdoors and camping. I know she doesn’t floss.


Chickn-Sandwich

OMG, does that mean she's a hippie vegan protester? That won't last long.


bobbywellington

All this because of the Adams news? Is someone sitting on a huge story that we don't yet know about? I hate this


Evie509

If there was a huge story, I’m pretty sure they’d be reporting it instead of this crap.


Space_Cowboy_17

Agreed, if there was more, Adam wouldn’t have rehashed the same story from months ago with one minor added tidbit that didn’t give us any further indication. The contract extension that was rumored could’ve been guessed that it was around 2 added years when it originally broke.


Due_Arm_6550

Retiring to be a Bronco


Chickn-Sandwich

Please just get it over with and everyone can move on. The drama is silly.


nickurick

Who fucking cares anymore? It’s dumb as fuck. When something happens, it’ll happen


Rubentraj

He’s not going to pay the packers back 30 million dollars


RemyH

This is bullshit. The sports books are doing this because they know they COULD lose a massive amount of money. As the over-under is A LOT better WITH Rodgers there than without.


JustinC70

Fuck Florio and PFT, he's bashed the Packers since it's inception and has orgasms over Viking news. Drools on everything Paul Allen has to say.


XxmilkjugsxX

I just don’t buy it. 1) he’s mentioned on several occasions how important his legacy is 2) he’s talked about wanting to play until his mid-forties 3) his best chance to win is with the packers because we just went 13-3 TWICE


JBOOGIE619

Why does Vegas believe Rodgers will be retiring next week??First week of training camp is here. David Dunn who repped for Carson Palmer "retired" to force his way out from the Bengals. Aaron Rodgers has Dunn repping him. His agent is leaking to Vegas that Rodgers will be retiring, that is why they froze bets on the NFC North division...Its about to get fucking crazy. Also you're viewing from a rational view point....His fiance is shading the hell outta of the Packers front office with liking tweets about "Respect over Money" bullshit...Rodgers is petty as hell too


Bandwagon__21

And the retirement is even more petty. He can u retire at any moment and the team could be well over the cap and be forced to cut him.


Bandwagon__21

I think he'd have a great chance in denver


Phytanic

IMHO the packers would have to get a borderline "Hershel walker" type of deal to ship him off to a contender like Denver. Any potential picks are highly likely to be at the end of the rounds anyways. Also, trading him to another team is exactly how we end up seeing them in a vikings uniform less than a year later.


XxmilkjugsxX

^this. People forget that any tean who trades for Rodgers will automatically be picking at the end of the round


Bandwagon__21

I wouldn't give up more than the rams gave up for Stafford. That would be my baseline if I'm any team. Thing is yall keep acting liek if this guy retires or hold outs the team will be happy to keep him around going into next yr. They will be wanting to get rid of the problem and other teams kmow that. Than if he retires he forces the team to have to account for his cap space if he decides to unretire at any moment putting them over the cap and forcing them to have to cut him or trade him immediately.


XxmilkjugsxX

The defense in Denver is great and the offense is promising. Packers had the #1 offense last year and the defense is full of talent. He had the opportunity to win the bucs game last year and the defense generated 3 second half picks. It takes time for players to be successful when they switch to other teams. Chemistry needs to be built and schemes understood


Bandwagon__21

I agree he didnt do everything he could in the nfc championship I had come on you guys board and put the loss on him which I was fownvoted for lol but now ppl want to blame him since he's turned up his nose at the packers. Bias at its finest. I wouldn't say the defense is full of talent in Greenbay. Outside of Alexander, the secondary is suspect. The linebackers are meh. Good pass rush though. And packers did have the #1 offense but part of part of is Aaron. Isn't like without him they'd be that so i wouldn't look at that. Was the broncos offense great before manning got there? Was Tampa offense great before brady? No.


XxmilkjugsxX

Lol emotions were raw right after the championship game. The disrespect for Amos and Savage is wild. They’re a top 3 safety duo in the NFL. Kenny Clark is also a top 5 interior lineman. The bucs had a top 5 most talented team before Brady. Evidently he was the missing piece to put it all together but that offense was already stacked with Evans, Godwin, a strong OL, and a capable RB in Jones


Bandwagon__21

It was clear Aaron let one slip away though. I told you they have a good dline. Clark being top 5 is debatable but he's a good player. Idk about them being top 3. You have Seattle, broncos, bills, just of the the top of my head who are obviously a better safety duo. And the bucs NOW have that. No one called them that before brady got there.


allie131

Wasn't their oline absolutely awful? I don't watch them much but I thought I heard that. Not really ideal for a 38 year old QB.


Bandwagon__21

Not sure about that but i know they have a lot of talent.


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Bandwagon__21

And what was Eric decker, demariyus Thomas, and Julius Thomas before peyton manning got there?


RedNeckAsian

But your front office refuses to invest to win now. They didn’t improve the o-line they didn’t get more offensive weapons. They spent their 1round pick on his replacement. That sends a message and Rodgers is telling them he got it. And is now sending one back. He’s a player who wants to win and doesn’t believe his organization shares the same thoughts. And honestly can you blame him?


allie131

Improve the top rated oline in the NFL? Look at the ratings I am guessing there wasn't a team in the NFL with as many players that graded in the top 3 as GB had this year. Could I be wrong sure but they were dang good. This team has made more NFCCG then any other team in the past decade which would suggest they are team built to win. They paid their LT the most ever paid to left tackle. They brought back Aaron Jones even though conventional wisdom says let him walk. You are either really ignorant about Packer history or just a troll. His best chance of winning anything is in Green Bay. The team is stacked and he knows the offense inside and out.


XxmilkjugsxX

Rodgers has been in the league since 2005, you can’t look at one draft and have that define how the front office looks. Yes, the 2019 draft was dogshit. But let’s look at 2018: - signed Zadarius Smith, Preston Smith, Adrian Amos, and Billy Turner in FA - Drafted Darnell Savage, Rashan Gary, and Elgton Jenkins They’re the team most over the cap next year because of how aggressive they were in FA. Yes 2019 was clearly a draft for the future but it’s BS to ignore 2018 when the team was aggressively trying to win now. This year they drafted a C in the 2nd and WR in the 3rd, two positions to help Rodgers!


allie131

Considering in recent years it was our D that let him down in big games I would argue the FO was drafting to help in every year. They were awful and now they are finally coming into form.


XxmilkjugsxX

Yep, couldn’t agree more. Now I’ll say, the Ted Thompson years left a lot on the table but that 2014 team should’ve been in the super bowl


wisconsinsports1993

I really don’t give a sh*t anymore. obviously I don’t want the to lose him and I’ll always love him for what he’s accomplished. But holy sh*t. Just retire already, go away please. If you retire and come back out of spite to a different team you’ll be a year older and the team most likely won’t be as good. So you’ll retire with one ring which is the only set back you get crucified for. Let us move on


DueSheepherder2207

Hard agree. No player is worth this headache. Force him to retire and move on with life. I loved having Rodgers here but it’s apparent that time is over.


DyrusforPresident

The man hasnt said anything and you are acting as if hes been in the media everyday complaining


WhatAHeavyLifeWeLive

He’ll be better than whoever we have. Nice Gute!


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sure, so sit his ass on the bench, wait til the season is over, then trade him so we know what the picks are


WhatAHeavyLifeWeLive

Biggest hater here.


leafscitypackersfan

Go ahead reddit. Tell me Adam Schefter made it all up. What an unmitigated disaster.


MichaelXI

Well he didn't obviously that was verified by other reporters. Schefter packaged it as some breaking news on draft day when it wasn't though


leebuchanan59

Okay, now I'm worried.


kodyrice

Just like when they pulled odds on Russell Wilson trade destinations because a deal was done with the Bears... See you next week, Aaron.


MichaelXI

This sub in insufferable lol the most dramatic reaction to everything which is ironic how so many people want Rodgers gone because he's the diva. Just wait for week 1 Rodgers will show up to the McAfee show and say something along the lines of I told you the media wants their clicks, I didn't say anything all summer I just enjoyed my time with my fiance. Vegas pulls lines all the time, remember last year when Wilson was getting traded?


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macfee is the media. just because he is a bro and smokes weed on air, he is still media


wisconsinsports1993

The fact he turned down the contract is proof he’s not losing this grudge. You call us insufferable but at least we aren’t delusional


allie131

That was months ago. Literally that news broke in May as much as Shefty wanted to rile you up again it wasn't new.


wisconsinsports1993

It doesn’t matter when it broke. It could’ve broke before the nfc championship game. He still turned down a contract. I knew about the contract when you did too- I’m not talking about this weeks report. It literally doesn’t make a difference if it was before last season, today, or a week ago. He doesn’t want to be here.


allie131

Editing your post doesn't change the fact you are wrong. Him turning down the deal means it didn't give him what he was after nothing else. A. Jones also turned down a deal mid-season last year and clearly he wanted to be here he just wanted the deal the way he wanted it. Since we don't know any of the details him turning it down says nothing about the why.


allie131

You said it showed he was still holding a grudge. It doesn't show that if he turned that deal down months ago. We also know literally 0 about what was in the contract or why he actually turned it down besides that it would have made him the highest paid player. So his tweet gave is 0 new news.


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DyrusforPresident

Lol imagine making a judgement about a player after 0 communication from said player.


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Bandwagon__21

This is not better than 2010


BDub1000

I'm a Packer fan first and foremost. The team will be around even after he retires. If it's his time to go then let's move on. This drama needs to stop.


Bandwagon__21

And Aaron will only have Aaron when he retires


ooyat

How do I bet against Rodgers retiring? How do I bet the over on wins?


sentientcreatinejar

How could Adam Schefter do this


allie131

Most people didn't hate him for what he said (or blame him for creating the drama) they didn't like the when because it took the focus of the young men many of whom that will be the single biggest day of their lives. It was unnecessary considering he admitted he didn't get anything new that caused him to leak it then. Also his regurgitated news (we already knew about the contract) being dropped on the biggest day in Bucks history didn't sit well either. Guy has a timing issue not an information issue.


elitesoulfly

retiring would be a better move. the only way he should play somewhere else is if hes SURE they can win a ring. otherwise the move looks dumb.


SoShweaty

Just kill me already. End this suffering


MMDroxy

Copium: Vegas has been wrong nephew


dubhec10

Carry the G.. i support the suits Pr team... Let's go suits!!! Some fans are just desperate to loose.


Nofnvalue21

What are we loosening?


kingchongo

Sounds like more Rodgers manipulation behind the scenes. Cant wait for him to show up to camp like nothing happened this off-season


Raunchiness121

He's going to retire and play the waiting game. He'll wait until the packers start 1-4 or 2-4 with Love then Murphy and that idiot Gutenkunt will beg Rodgers to come back with the condition that they trade him to Denver next year..Dumbass front office couldn't even resign the best receiver in the game. They probably lowballed him knowing Love isn't going to be able to get him the ball. Rodgers..you do you man. You don't owe them shit!


ChickenNougatCream

Wat


Dirty_Mike_n_da_Boyz

All I know is if you do trade him you gotta strip that new team of everything they are worth


Frisk__9Lives

Lmao they can’t be serious


GreatCaesarGhost

That seems extremely unlikely.


greenbaylady

Another press conference coming like Brett when he retired?