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Live_Newspaper_1933

im surprise people didn't like dehya demo. i thought it was really good. it fits the character and the music is really great as well. if anything i think nilou demo was the worst for me as their wasn't much going on in that.


Edmondds

I don't think they disliked the demo itself, I think it was more of a form of protest to how bad her kit is designed.


FreeMarshmallow

Is there another dendroculus in the underground tunnels from Dar al Shifa? (apart from the one right at the drop from where you enter that is) I collected the one that was in the tunnels but my resonance stone is still showing something in the same area and I can't find another.


josephh_ie

Finally was able to clear Floor 12 first half with Double Hydro Tao 😭 Trying to play with Elegy Fischl (to fight ASIMON) and thus no shield unit against the consecrated beasts was a menace but I'm surprised that I did enjoy the challenge a little bit.


youcanotseeme

Why not put elegy on Yelan?


VolkiharVanHelsing

Idk how Sports Twitter popularized the "Athletes Saying Things In A Sports Page Infographic" meme format but it's amazing "I owe you an apology, I wasn't really familiar with your game" "I'll be there no matter what" "I'm not interested" "I will love it, and I think I deserve it" "Ain't shit funny" "You better learn Chinese"


Sense_Temporary

don’t forget the marvel youtube thumbnail format. “what was he cooking?” “does he know??”


Unforgiving_Eye

Goku solos


Top_Impression_2539

KOKOMI BIRTH 🐟🐟🐟🐟


FlameLover444

It's a crime how good Amenoma Kageuchi looks on Xingqiu


TrapFestival

I had a passing thought to try switching him to it, but in that process I discovered that his Sacrificial Sword is holding half that team together. He just doesn't have the Energy Recharge from other sources to go without it and I'm not going to rebuild him, so Sacrificial it is.


Wild_Distribution761

[Hbd koko](https://www.google.com.sg/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjHncunn6j9AhWcBLcAHaF1AusQglR6BAgJEAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FGenshinImpact%2Fstatus%2F1628243199255891969%3Fref_src%3Dtwsrc%255Egoogle%257Ctwcamp%255Eserp%257Ctwgr%255Etweet&usg=AOvVaw3MYOj3PNgnfpqK8Mth8Nz2) its drier than the sahara here


box-of-sourballs

*pushes you all into the schoolbus* Don't forget your lunches!! Don't fall asleep in class and MAKE SURE NOT TO PEE YOUR PANTS AT SCHOOL AGAIN! **[Have a nice day at the new megathread dear!!](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/118o3er/tighnaris_declassified_sumeru_survival_guide/)**


ifallontragedy

I've been playing camp buddy this past month and I just found out one of the characters there is voiced by EN Diluc lmao so I went and changed the language on genshin to EN and listened to Diluc, and I was like 'yep that's Aiden alright'


VolkiharVanHelsing

He got the range alright, Mishima (Persona 5) and Navarre (SMT IV Apocalypse, replacing Liam O'Brien) are my experiences with Sean Chiplock Especially hilarious when he touches his Diluc's voice range as Mishima


FeedMeDdduck

You would be surprised. Sean Chiplock is in quite a bit of BL VN


ifallontragedy

Yeah, definitely surprised me. He was really good as Aiden too ngl


Wistful_Moon

I’ve been procrastinating floor 12 since the latest reset because I’m still traumatised from dying a lot on the last reset 💀 I don’t even 9 star it, I just do it for the completion


Kir-chan

If you just need to complete it, I did it with Barbara/Kuki/DMC/Kaeya just to see if I could and 12-2 was pretty comfy with that team. They were too slow to 3 star 12-1 and 12-3 but 12-2 worked great. First half though. Barbara on 2nd half is a nightmare with the cryo enemies.


ophir147

Yelan: You have a lot to learn about staying incognito Traveler. You should always travel under an alias to avoid undue attention. Also Yelan, 2 minutes later, in her regular speaking voice: Hello Merchant. My name Jeff. Got any juicy gossip to share?


chemx32

Loooool the first thing I thought about when she was talking about undue attention was "Bro you wear the flashiest clothes in the country"


silam39

she didn't even bother to throw on a fake moustache 😭


TheNameisKuro

I know Itto's rerun is far away and I'm not certain how needed this information is but... Yuegui (Yaoyao E-skill) can hit Golden Wolflord while flying.


VeilOfElysium

Common Yuegui W


OctoSevenTwo

If you were to make an IRL version of Genius Invokation TCG, how would you do it? Here’s the idea I had: - Starter kit comes with a playing mat that replicates the in-game space, a starter deck that mirrors what you get in-game, energy counters that are placed on top of character cards, and 8 elemental die that take the form of d8s. To compensate for the fact that the faces of the dice can’t light up, they’d all be painted with the color of the element they represent, with the actual symbol in black. The Omni-Element face would be colored white (compare: Pokémon, which did something similar with Normal-type energy in its own TCG). - Cards would have a brief description of their effects printed at the bottom, with their deployment costs printed on the top left corner or so. - Extra card packs and additional die would be made available for purchase, as would additional playing mats representing the different nations. - Card packs themed around certain characters would also be available for purchase. - The game would play almost exactly the same as its virtual counterpart. Thoughts?


Randomly_Typing76

how would energy work?


OctoSevenTwo

The same as in-game? Barring card effects, you’d accumulate an energy counter each turn you attack with that card, for a cap of three. Once you have three counters on your active card, you can use its ult (whose description would be on the character card. Also, as a thought, Oz, Guoba, etc may need to be represented by figurines that come with the starter set since Fischl and Xiangling’s card abilities kind of necessitate their use.


FeedMeDdduck

Thinking about getting Shenhe for Aloy as a F2P... someone please stop me why does my brain work like this 💀


silam39

Aloy is already the strongest unit in the game. Getting her Shenhe on top of that would take the fun out of the game at that point.


Desclipse369

Do it no balls


DiscordantEggSouffle

Wait, isn't Dehya's teaser coming out tonight?


No_Train8874

To those who have used Genshin Optimizer, what's the best and/or easiest way to import your artifacts?


silam39

I always run Artiscan on my laptop. Open my Genshin inventory on another window, change artifacts at each beep and bam, done after just a couple of minutes without having to download any software or take pictures. Just make sure you click on "Burn Results" on the results tab after you've imported your data on the Optimiser, otherwise it'll save your current artifacts and create a bunch of duplicates if you use it again in the future.


Desclipse369

Artiscan video capture


venalix1

whats the deal with dehya? anyone can be good if you know how to build properly; so just pull for who you like. - day one veteran player who consistently 26 star abyss


Mayjaplaya

had us in the first half not gonna lie


[deleted]

Anyone can be good true, it's just the other would take you blood, sweat and tears to make her good. LOL


coconutcreambun

26 star? damn, thats pro


flumphgrump

Watching the latest Liyue's Cuisine was a mistake. Now I'm craving cornbread. 🙁


SaffronNTruffle

This current banner drained all my primos, genesis, and glitters. I'm happy that I have no interest in both banners in 3.5. I get some time to save for Baizhu.


midwinter_nocturne

*patiently awaits Kokomi's probably beautiful birthday art*


silam39

I am also waiting, but not patiently. pls mihoyo release the art now 🥹


DarthAzula

Almost 2 years maining Kazuha and [this](https://twitter.com/kzshii/status/1628007976459182080?s=20) still happens every time


tepkalmado

That feeling you get when u are forced to NOT smoke for a couple of days? Yeah… its the same feeling without 👏🏼THEM👏🏼LEAKS!!! 😤😤😤


Synonyms26

That one colleague is giving me aneurysm at this point. Controlling, never receiving any criticism, aggressively rebuking every single suggestion from everyone else in the team, forcing everyone to follow what she says to a T even when her proposals are fucking unrealistic, cleaning up her shit because her work is messy as hell. Good god Kazuha please give me your zen and patience. Cuz I sure have none left.


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box-of-sourballs

Wtf


Synonyms26

Dude. I'm also a woman.


DarkPalkion

I haven't started the world quest for this patch in the desert. Assuming that I skim it but not entirely missing out on the story, how long will it take me to finish it?


Roboaki

Someone pointed out that Dehya is the most convenient way to setup 2 consecutive vaporize in overworld so now I am actually contemplating on using 1 50/50 to try to pull her. (Bonus point for also having day time move speed bonus passive) Prototype Amber Wanderer (Air Ambulance) / Kazuha / Dehya / Yelan. Gonna take my time until Baizhu kit leak to think it over. Edit : Tested with Albedo, turns out his field generation share element icd with his field proc. If Dehya field functions similar to Albedo this is now more clunkier than I though. (require to wait 2.5s before snapping first E)


silam39

>the most convenient way to setup 2 consecutive vaporize in overworld she isn't check the footage from the livestream. her E procs so slowly that her Dehya melts once off Ganyu's bloom damage, and then when Ganyu attacks again Dehya's E just doesn't proc. If you wanna proc easy overworld vaporises, you could run DPS Benny and just spam his E.


Roboaki

The sequence is Dehya cast E apply Pyro> Yelan E Vaporize > E field proc and apply Pyro > Yelan E Vaporize. Longer fight Dehya's pyro application definitely lags behind.


Seamerlin

yelan vape does like 70-80k in overworld what exactly lives that, also if group them you probably miss it if not, you probably dealt extra dmg whilst grouping + swirling if a bigger boss, maybe? but to pull a whole unit to save 1 second per mini "boss" aint worth it imo if that's actually your reason guoba literally does it better, bro attack fast enough and is free guoba e -> yelan e -> yelan e


silam39

>The sequence is Dehya cast E apply Pyro> Yelan E Vaporize > E field proc and apply Pyro > Yelan E Vaporize. yeah my point is the way it will actually go is Dehya cast E apply Pyro> Yelan E Vaporize > nothing procs because Dehya's E is seriously awful and has hella long cooldown between procs > Yelan E without Vaporize.


Roboaki

If the field mechanic is similar to Albedo, then the field generation is not counted toward field proc cd while ~~the field proc does not share icd with the field generation.~~ Edit : Tested in game, Albedo field generation share element icd with his field proc. Damn now just gonna hope Dehya E bypass icd. Gonna need to wait for her trial to test.


ceonsiune

Dehya's E has a large radius and can be recast, making it perfect for Yelan's E


moon_fairy

So do we have any info on the Geo cat girl's personality and kit? From what I'm seeing she's a genki/Yoimiya type. I also think her kit might revolve around her defense in some way


JeanKB

Uncle tiananmen said she's an overworked woman.


moon_fairy

Must be an Inazuman shrine maiden/priestess thing


_Exordium

Planning my Mika main build, already have PJWS maxed and waiting, then realized 4pc Pale Flame won't work for him since his E cooldown is 15s... Wondering if I should go for 2pc ATK% + 2pc Phys DMG, full Glad or Shimenawa's since his ult is not a dmg dealing one. Any ideas?


Cultural_Damage_7832

Assuming his hold E can do double hit on single target, he can stack 4pc Pale Flame instantly just like Eula tho only 7s uptime. Stick with 2pc Pale Flame + 2pc Bloodstained for unconditional 50% phys bonus, 4pc Shime is better but conditional and only 10s uptime, 4pc Glad is just a worse 4pc Shime. Since you most likely to run a atk buffer like Benny or Yun Jin or both, 2pc PF + 2pc BC is better imo


_Exordium

I don't have Eula and didn't even consider the multi target activation!! I already have a semi-decent Pale Flame set for Razor so I'll have to try it when be comes out - thank you!


pinerw

A polearm phys build without Crescent Pike? Interesting.


_Exordium

Tbh I didn't even consider it, figured PJWS might be better thanks to the base stats+crit, I'll have to see how crescent plays with him though!


pinerw

Yeah, I genuinely don’t know which would be better because PJWS is just such a massive stat stick and the passive lends itself to doing a bunch of NAs. I just know Crescent Pike is brokety-broke, so my impulse would be to at least try it for any physical polearm build. It’s really nasty on characters with multi-hit animations in their NA string, and I don’t know whether Mika falls into that category or not.


WhiskerWow

18% atk + 50% dmg (but with only 10 second uptime) (shime) 18% atk + 25% dmg (2 pc atk, 2 pc dmg) 18% atk + 35% dmg (2 pc atk, glad) 50% dmg (2 pc phys dmg, 2 pc phys dmg) Shimenawa's will be the best assuming your burst is useless and you only field him for 10 seconds after pressing E. Gladiator will be a more consistent buff as it has 100% uptime, but it won't be as strong.


xchyssa

Happy birthday to my favorite healer, kokomi! Thank you for keeping my team healthy every time!


Eijun_Love

Please leak Kaveh soon...


Whap_Reddit

The downside of using "exploration teams" is that you miss out on great dialogue for characters that you like. Happened to have Fischl out when visiting Dragonspine today. Fischl's character breaking is always so hilarious and adorable!


Aru736

Can any weapon beat FS on hyperbloom Shinobu currently?


Extra-Step6641

Key of Khaj-nisut gives higher em for Shinobu + extra hp is just a nice healing bonus. Team em is good. It's her bis. You run triple em with hp substats.


deancest

Key of Khaj-Nisut of course, especially at higher refinements. It has the absolutely highest personal EM for Shinobu, plus team EM buff which is typically better than FS’s buffs (especially when you already have another character holding Elegy as the ATK buffs from Elegy and FS don’t stack).


Harlow1212

Freedom is absolute best on hyperbloom Shinobu.


TooCleverForGood

So kinda random question to anyone here who has gone through and played Isshin. How are you meant to remember who any of these characters are? I keep automatically defaulting to their Yakuza counterparts and am so confused as to who is supposed to be who anymore.


Chumunga64

Yeah, the writers purposefully played with their "actor's" original personality for a bunch of characters It's really fun


thefinestpiece

I fear coming to this sub knowing well there will be no new leak. 🥹


SirAwesome789

Opinions on what I should do for pulls? Planning on getting Nahida when she comes back, I have like 29k primos and 16 pity no guarantee Thinking of throwing some pulls at Shenhe for my Ayaka only up to the point where I can still guarantee Nahida I'll probably wait until we officially hear the 3.6 banners to decide. The only thing that'd stop me from trying for Shenhe is Venti or Kokomi in 3.6


ace184184

Save for nahida C2, you should have enough by then and its a huge difference for her damage. Shenhe you ideally need at C2 as well, to me she is too niche. I would rather use a C0 Ganyu as burst/damage support but thats my opinion. Kokomi is 100% worth pulling if she gets a banner


SirAwesome789

For now I'd rather get more characters than cons, I don't rlly need that much more damage Same with Shenhe, I think it makes more sense to get Ayaka c2 before shenhe


ace184184

Thats a totally reasonable approach, I hate gearing and artifact grinding so I would personally rather C1 or C2 a character than pull more/new ones. Quick question - who is in your Ayaka team right now? I run two variants - Ayaka, kokomi, ganyu Kazuha and if I need koko on other team Ill put xinqui in as cryo and usually swap ganyu for diona as I always need some healing so ayaka, xq, diona kazuha is essentially my other team. Im just thinking if shenhe would actually be an upgrade to your cryo support slot at c0?


SirAwesome789

Ayaka Diona Mona Kazuha So it would be an upgrade but no healer would be a bit rough and I'm not a fan of prototype amber Mona I'd just prefer Kokomi since she can be used in dendro teams


ace184184

Thats probably a good way to go. Koko is a ridiculous healer and her hydro application works much better than mona so you can swirl cryo from your support, drop koko jellyfish to freeze then go pew pew w Ayaka. Wish you the best of luck on your pulls! Hopefully koko gets a banner!


IllBar374

I'd say it all depends on if you care abt meta or not. If you rly want your Ayato to be op then go for Shenhe. Maybe throw a couple of 10 pulls in, if nothing comes and you change your mind then I'd say move onto Venti, Kokomi, or Nahida (If you care abt meta have your priorities like this: Nahida > Kokomi > Venti). But also, pull for characters you like👍🏻😎


SirAwesome789

I pull strictly for meta lol, there are no characters (or at least none that I don't already have) that are interesting enough for me to pull over meta I'm getting Nahida regardless, I'm just deciding what to do with the excess pulls, it's either throw them at Shenhe, save for Kokomi/Venti if they also come 3.6, or just save for any unexpected good characters


IllBar374

Ig just save for the Hydro Archon kek. Recent pattern w the Archons is that theyre the only ones w a good kit (Venti besides). I'd say tho, Shenhe, Kokomi, and Venti then just depend on your existing teams. Your Ayaka obv needs Shenhe for the extra buff, so you can always go for Shenhe with your excess pulls (Just make sure you have 180 fates left over for Nahida). As for Venti and Kokomi... get them if yk you DESPERATELY need them for your Abyss team. Kokomi is good for freeze or bloom teams, and she is an op healer too. So if one of your teams needs a hydro applicator and a healer then go for Kokomi. Ughhh Venti... he is good for small enemies crowd control. Ig he does give elemental buff to your characters (only if he is equipped w VV tho), but honestly Venti is only useful for Floor 9 and 10 in the Abyss, which are easy floors anyways. If you got Kazuha, I'd say you don't have to go for Venti (unless you like Venti in general). Though, another con for his kit is that not all character's attacks can reach the enemies that are sucked up in his tornado. Like Hu Tao and Diluc can't reach the enemies, so just have that in mind. But ig, since Fontaine isn't that far either, having Kokomi on your team isnt bad, since there might be an HP or a hydro boost in the Abyss for v4.0 which isn't that far away XD^^ but having a guaranteed Nahida and Focalors is always reassuring. In general, if yk that your teams are already thriving even without Shenhe, Venti, or Kokomi, then you don't gotta go for them. So just save your fates if that's the case. Maybe in Fontaine HOPEFULLY Hoyo will finally release some good characters who aren't unusable unless you unlock their C6 cons. Anyways, good luck on your summons!!! Hope you'll get your characters early!!


SirAwesome789

>Ig just save for the Hydro Archon kek This sounds like a good idea, but they're relatively far out >if yk you DESPERATELY need them for your Abyss team. Lol, I don't need anyone, I can clear already


IllBar374

XD ig ye, you can continue to save. Maybe if you want to get some cons of whatever 4 stars they're gonna have in their banners tho, and not mind getting the 5 star too by accident. Anyways, good luck!!


SirAwesome789

Yea, it's kinda maybe looking like Fischl will be on Shenhe's banner and I need her last con, wouldn't mind a copy of Mika either


KingCarrion666

if you pull for meta, why dont you already have nahida...


SirAwesome789

Lol, I was saving for the one character I would pull over meta (Hu Tao), also wanted Yelan, and their weapons since I expected it to be cracked Went well, won my 50/50 on Hu Tao, won my 50/50 on Yelan, set my path to Homa but got Aqua first which I was good with bc I was going for it after, then got Homa, then my friend egged me into going for C1 Hu Tao and got it on my first 10 pull, winning another 50/50 And after that I still had 25k, no regrets


KingCarrion666

Are you a waterloo student? (sorry, i was looking at what teams you use x.x)


SirAwesome789

Check dms


fazb3arsfright

most of this week is a holiday for me so i can rest but man. i still feel like reaching monday will take forever. i need to see baizhu!!! let him out of the basement!!!


missloveliest

Happy Birthday to the goddess of the sea, my fish queen my first triple crowned AND my first c0r1 JUST BECAUSE she is more PERFECT with it everlasting moonglow is the most beautiful weapon i laid my eyes on. Miss Sangonomiya Kokomi my bestie my only reason i still open this game /hj


kitsune_rei

=) Happy birthday to Kokomi! Everything about her just makes my day brighter. I must add her to all my teams today.


silam39

I wish I had Everlasting Moonglow for my Koko 🥲 still, happy birthday Kokomi!!! 🐟🐟


missloveliest

It is so pretty on her i hope you get it someday. It completes her already perfect aesthetics 🐟🐟


silam39

thank you! I'm hoping for a Nilou-Kokomi banner soon so I can roll on the weapon banner and hopefully join R1 club


sexwithalatus

sometimes i wish bloom spawned flowers instead of seeds :(


aoi_desu

It would be great if that happen, but somehow hoyo chose a freakin tomatillo, now i can't unsee that we slapped enemies with exploding tomato


hamsterolic

if they locked bountiful blooms behind nilou they might as well have made them beautiful flowers too, missed opportunity smh


sexwithalatus

smol indian company :(


nDroae

bountiful gulab jamun


OctoSevenTwo

Or at least the explosions from when they pop could take the form of flowers.


sexwithalatus

!!!!! i would nut!!


Unforgiving_Eye

They missed that opportunity with Nilou


sexwithalatus

nloom spawning flowerbuds that turn into pretty flowers with a burst of dendro energy????? i would have fucking whaled so hard you wouldn't even believe


Wistful_Moon

That would look really pretty


sexwithalatus

nilou stonks would have skyrocketed if we had that


miss_subjectecho

holdup that’s a great concept


sexwithalatus

hoyo made a big L when they pushed through with seeds


MelonLord125

I almost never do this but allow me to celebrate Kokoday. Happy Birthday to Kokomi! She is amazing, groundbreaking, spectacular and honestly my fave Genshin character, her mermaid/magical girl vibes are off the charts and she is my comfort character ever since that fateful day near the 1st anniv.


kitsune_rei

Happy Kokoday fellow Kokocult member!


silam39

Happy Kokoday!!!! She's such a joy to play anywhere, I'm so happy I have her. Her mermaid/magical girl vibes and pastel mermaid princess aesthetic are unmatched


Sense_Temporary

love her and i hope she gets more screentime!!!


mantoubuns

plugging the [fave genshin character survey](https://forms.gle/mH31FiHxoJGRsdDz7) again hehe currently at 372 responses, i'm aiming for around 500 :D thank you!! i'll post the results here ofc once everything is done \~


chemx32

Favorite character in terms of Kit? Story? Animations?


mantoubuns

just overall, i guess. i was thinking more in terms of personality and how they appear as a character in general rather than kit or strength, but everyone has their own criteria for their fave


RulerofCrown

:0


IllBar374

Ughrhrhrrhrrrrr leak deprived(◞‸◟ㆀ)


Odone

[Live feed of the inventory Kamera scanning my account](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5CIOulmiIA&ab_channel=theereactions)


stainNecrolyte

Semi off topic rant: My laptop can't update windows and because of that it became slow af, genshin is almost unplayable, I discovered that's because windows is downloading the update in the background but even when is downloaded and I restar to apply the update ...it doesn't fucking let me!! All the time I get "failed to install update, reverting all the changes" and it restart all the process again!! It's been 2 days of dailies missed and capped resin. Is not the end of the world but I'm mad!! Fuck you windows!! And the saddest part is that I still can't resolve the problem :'v


rotten_riot

I'm more surprised about a laptop handing Genshin lol Did the battery died instantly or was it connected?


Karzy0730

I had this issue a few days ago an the solution was to do a fresh reinstall of windows (you will not lose your files).


stainNecrolyte

Yea, I guess I just do that and save me the trouble but I will make a back up of some important files just in case....good damm it, I hate this :'v


Afraid_Belt4516

you're telling me there's no leaderboard for kokomi even though i got mine above 40k hp? edit: how do people have 55k I farmed for months and have basically no dead stats😭


Rouge_means_red

The builds page has a filter you can use to find builds not officially supported


Time_Diamond_5849

Isn't that very normal for Kokomi to have that much hp? Mine with hp/hydro/healing bonus with prototype amber got 42k hp on 4pc ocean hued clam and thats without much hp substat rolls


Lemon-Mochii

Is that with hydro resonance? You need a lot of hp rolls to get 42k hp with hp/hydro/hb.


HoontersHaunt

Yeah, 42k is damn high. If I did the math right, a level 90 Kokomi with Prototype Amber's gonna need about 90% HP from substats to reach it without Hydro Resonance. On average, that's 18 rolls on HP% across 4 pieces. Probably a bit less in reality because flat HP rolls help towards it but rolling that much on a single stat will still take some good luck. Add in her ER requirements if she's to be played on-field (likely if running 4-pc Clam) and yeah, it's very tough.


callmejamesx

that's a pretty normal amount of hp even for hp/hydro/hb


Sense_Temporary

i thought most people’s kokomis are above 40k hp? if you use hp/hp/hb it isn’t a hard bar to reach


GGABueno

Maybe it's HP/Hydro/HB


silam39

With good ER%? That's not that easy.


Sense_Temporary

i just assumed OP is talking about just getting to the 40k milestone, not taking into account er requirements.


silam39

I feel like in any conversation about builds, "enough ER to comfortably burst as needed" is a given for characters that need their burst. Anything that doesn't meet ER reqs on characters that use their burst might as well not exist.


moon_fairy

Ouch.


AzurePriestess

You dare to gaze upon me?!


Karlaly

_Oh, so sorry!_ ^❄️✨️


AzurePriestess

Wretched vermin!


moon_fairy

I'm really worried that Foçalors + Xingqiu is going to be better than Xingqiu + Yelan and it makes me not want to pull Yelan


GGABueno

If she's an HP buffer then Focalors + Yelan is gonna be better.


MelonLord125

I feel they move from that archetype and do something different for her, slow but very heavy hydro maybe or AOE focused off field instead of single target unlike Xq/Yelan and not needing NAs, also heavy Hp related focus, like max hp to allies, or hp to dmg stuff or some defensive utility. There are roles she can do that doesn't fall to their role. However even if she doesn't compete with Xq/Yelan she still has heavy competition from other hydros that it feels that Hp related support is going to be the only truly unique and role that she can have. Hp buffs will will make he good for Nilou, Hu-Tao, double and mono hydro.


rotten_riot

My guess is she will be a Hydro Raiden/Nahida and apply Hydro in AOE instead of single target like Xingqiu and Yelan


Soleous

that just means that focalors+xingqiu+yelan+kaz would be the best ST team in the game and you would just play that so they probably wouldn’t do that


DatBoiMahomie

This may be an uncommon opinion (at least not one I’ve seen expressed a lot), but to me Focolars presents a very interesting dilemma coming up Aside from Venti who had circumstances go against him, it feels like MHY doesn’t want other characters encroaching on archons territory, and MHY wants all of them to be strong. The problem is hydro is probably the most complete element of the bunch. You have: -an amazing on field enabler -super flexible on Field DPS/enabler -great healer -an OP character with defensive utility, great damage, and enabling abilities -A great character who’s a good enabler and brings great off field damage and has a passive that buffs the team Like they’re going to want to make Focolars a staple of the element, but it’s difficult to do without encroaching on another characters territory. Generally MHY has been great with avoiding power creep, but this is going to be a pretty unique situation


liszst

pity venti was the very first 5 star, he used to be considered godly but is pushed towards mob-related concerns now. it's not gonna happen but i rly wish they'd update him. his trailer pales in comparison to others as well (even klee's looked better and she was released right after him).


DatBoiMahomie

The unfortunate thing is he’s a victim of is being too OP. Like Venti in early 1.X is the only example of a character breaking the game and trivializing everything. They had to counter that in some way and unfortunately his use took a hit because of it


RYP31514

We don't yet have a selfish hypercarry archon or a selfish hypercarry hydro.


rotten_riot

I don't think that one would be that popular They seem to make the Archons Sub DPS cause everyone wants good Sub DPS in their accounts, while very few people pulls for many on field characters, much less hypercarries.


DatBoiMahomie

Ayato is pretty close despite his burst being off field The reason he’s so flexible though is because hydro as an element is just OP at enabling so even if they have standard ICD on fast normals they’ll still be good for it. I have a hard time seeing them implement a selfish carry Hydro archon that doesn’t completely encroach on his territory


Soleous

slower app, hard hits, nuke burst=forward vaporise carry its actually not that hard lol


DatBoiMahomie

Archon is the key word here Yea they can make another on fielder differentiate themselves from Ayato/Childe, consider me doubtful they’d give a kit like that to the hydro archon. If she’s an on fielder they’re going to give her the flexibility to take on a lot of roles, and considering hydros biggest positive is it’s enabling capabilities I have a hard time seeing the hydro archon not having that


hydropyrotechnic

I expect the main focus of her kit to be off-field AoE Hydro with a XQ/Yelan-type application. She might even have the 1.5U application that Yelan once had in Beta. We don't have many characters who can apply off-field AoE Hydro in the first place; XQ and Yelan are single-target and rely on NAs, while Ayato's burst application isn't too great. I also expect her to have HP-buffing capabilities and some minor healing (more like Xingqiu's healing than Kokomi). (Coincidentally, fast off-field Hydro that doesn't need NAs, minor healing, and HP-buffing would all be great for Dehya, even more so if Focalors actually did damage.)


rotten_riot

Same, a Hydro Raiden/Nahida is what I expected Focalors to be cause that would definitely be OP and it's something we don't have now


DatBoiMahomie

If they end up implementing this kit and the HP buffing was significant enough then I’d expect we’re about to get a lot more HP scaling characters Though I feel like they’d have a difficult time implementing this kit without just overshadowing XQ/Yelan


hydropyrotechnic

in order to not have her beat XQ/Yelan, they could just give her lower damage multipliers so that her main focus was support/elemental application as opposed to both hydro application and damage.


Myrkrvaldyr

We don't have yet a proper crit dmg/HP buffer, Focalors can do that. She might do damage, maybe only if you get cons.


DatBoiMahomie

I don’t think they’ll commit to making an archon that niche/restricted. Like Nahida and Raiden for example accommodate multiple roles, for the archon of the most universal element I don’t think they’ll restrict her to just a buffer, especially considering a lot of the other hydro characters have multiple aspects to their kit. They’ll in all likelihood consolidate multiple roles into her kit, which is going to encroach on some characters role. If they did make her a pure buffer though they’d probably make her so OP that she’d just end up replacing one of the hydro characters in their best comps


Myrkrvaldyr

Nilou's existence opens the gates to custom reactions. Imagine if Focalors' role is to give something new to electrocharge, vape, freeze, etc. while also buffing hp and crit dmg. That way she doesn't invalidate other hydro units and will instead be used with other hydro units.


DatBoiMahomie

I have heavy doubts they’d dedicate the archon towards one reaction. Look at the others: Venti- can be slotted anywhere, is most useful with enemies that can be CCed Zhongli- Can be slotted anywhere. Is one of the most common characters used in mono Geo, Xiao, Melt Ganyu, Yoimiya, Hu Tao teams. Raiden- has multiple teams where she excels like hyperbloom, hypercarry, Eula, national, tazer. Can be used as an on fielder or off fielder Nahida- is BiS on nearly every dendro team The archon is supposed to encompass the element they represent, they aren’t going to pigeonhole an archon like that to not work with most of the elements reactions. Being the most universal element and facilitating so many different reactions is part of what makes hydro OP, and that’s not something they’ll take away from the archon of the element imo


Myrkrvaldyr

That's why I said she could buff hydro reactions. She would buff all of them, not just one. That would make her top tier for most reaction teams that need hydro.


Sense_Temporary

this isn’t uncommon at all, everyone has these same fears for focalors. a lot of people have suspected she may be a “jack of all trades, master of none” situation where she touches on all of those roles but isn’t as effective as those characters. subdps utility without being as great as xingqiu, healing but not as good as koko, etc etc. issue with this is it would just make her a second option and go against the whole archon design philosophy. it’s a hard one honestly. idk what hoyo can do to her without making her stupidly OP or just…second to the rest in every aspect.


Shadow_Tempest_1003

We don't even know what focalors kit is, if she has a defensive kit then she might replace xq instead of Yelan and that's only assuming that her kit will revolve around fast single target hydro application. The way I see it she's probably gonna be a buffer+healer so maybe a combination of Mona and Kokomi.


moon_fairy

I always pictured her as a Max HP buffer, like an HP Bennett, but she might also have good damage like Raiden


DarkBlueChameleon

Hypothetically, if she truly was a max HP buffer with personal damage, then Focalors + Yelan would probably be better than Focalors + Xingqiu because Yelan benefits a lot more from HP, so in that scenario you could pull for Yelan without worry.


ChipChipSlide

But then you have 3 XQ, so you can run double Hydro on one half and 1 hydro on the other half. Make the Abyss a genuine meme


moon_fairy

It's just I already have Kokomi, Ayato, Nilou and Mona so I get worried about redundancy


Mercadelabuena

I mean Yelan already is pretty much redundant, so why want to pull her in the first place?


Sense_Temporary

but she isn’t though? i thought it was agreed upon that yelan being 5 star xingqiu is a good thing, and that the both of them’s best teams are always with each other?


Mercadelabuena

It is a good thing, but redundant nonetheless. Also, Yelan's best teams might be alongside XQ, but XQ's best teams aren't necessarily. Yelan needs XQ so much more than XQ needs Yelan (and even that is being generous, he doesn't need her at all)


solarscopez

Oh wow I [flubbed](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/108y8na/comment/j4kogbx/) this one pretty badly huh. Which means it's time to try and fail again! 3.6 banner prediction lessgo! *** 3.6 1st half: Baizhu + Ganyu 3.6 2nd half: Nahida + Nilou + Kaveh (4*) *** I feel like this one's *gotta* be more straightforward so hopefully I get it right? The only one I'm confused about is who the second character with Baizhu will be. At this point I've sort of given up hope on Eula and I think that *if* she gets a re-run it'll be at the tail-end of Sumeru in like 3.7 or 3.8. I'm stuck between Ganyu and Kokomi but I went with Ganyu because she's a Liyue character and I feel like MHY will try to put her there to get some Shenhe pullers to go for her...although you could use this logic for Kokomi and people who pulled for Ayaka so idek tbh. Guess we'll see in about a month! RemindMe! April 5, 2023


liszst

bro u were so close 😔


EveningStarHesper

Nahida Kaveh Nahida Kaveh Nahida Kaveh!


hamsterolic

the way that second half is a dream for me… manifesting 🤝


liszst

rip eula wanters


Wistful_Moon

Kaveh not being with Baizhu wouldn’t be the end of the world, I’d still pull for Kaveh and wouldn’t be opposed to trying Nilou bloom, but him with Baizhu would be more preferable Also, wouldn’t the 3.6 livestream be on the 31st of March?


solarscopez

Yeah it'd fall on the 31st of March but in the past I just set the bot to give me a reminder a week before the actual update so I've just kept doing that lol. Only reason I think Baizhu+Kaveh would be on separate sides is because MHY seems to prefer doing that and if they make 3.6 a half Liyue/half Sumeru event (which I'm thinking might happen because one of the leakers suggested we'll get a Liyue and Sumeru area in 3.6) then it would sound more reasonable to put them on separate sides based on story relevance. Although from this last patch it looks like MHY is saying "screw story relevance" for the banners so who even knows tbh.


CelluloidScenes

Kaveh isn’t with Baizhu and his weapon is with Amos so I hope you flub this one too 💀


solarscopez

LOL don't worry I probably will


Grief2017

That weapon banner would be amazing for Nahida. Can give Kuki the sword for hyperbloom teams.


Karzy0730

You did pretty well considering everyone was guessing Shenhe for 3.6 (partial liyue patch + ayaka as well or ayaka in 3.7 rumored inazuma patch).


rotten_riot

>ayaka in 3.7 rumored inazuma patch Oh yeah I remember that one leaker who said we may get an Ayaka rerun in 3.7 lol


solarscopez

Looking back at it now, Cyno was definitely due for his first re-run so idk why I didn't pick up on that back then. Although it looks like few other people did either so maybe it really was unexpected at the time. Eula getting skipped on the other hand came out of nowhere though, still shocked at how MHY bait-and-switched us like this lol. Everything in the world was pointing to her getting a re-run and then this happens.


No_Bottle_9695

Covenant of the deep.